In post 522, morph the cat wrote:Nope. I was very confused by the disconnects, though and had to go back and reread the rules.
nope. you admitted that you discussed the setup with cabd before the game, and you even talked with him about what mafia role to vote after it had started. theres no way all this took place with you having not understood the setup.
R~
Hydreigon, the Brutal Pokemon.
They are scary.
They consume and destroy everything.
If you so much as move, you are a foe.
In post 522, morph the cat wrote:He was definitely pressuring me and I was cooperating fully and openly in my answers because any off note or caution would have been obvious to him. Nacho knows that I hate to lie as scum and will, rather than answer the question asked, go off on a tangent a little that lets me keep to truthful statements. That didn't happen here, and in fact I made statements that I usually won't make even as town because I don't like or trust statements that boil down to "I am town" from other players and I avoid them myself. I realized partway through that discussion, particularly the part about why I didn't go after him assuming he's scum for misreading me, that I was making statements that boiled down to "I am town".
what youre saying here is that you are aware of what nacho wants to see and you are aware of what you do as town or scum. that means that as scum, you would know what to say to appease nacho. of course its not easy, which explains the lagging.
R~
No. But, the fact that you take that away from my paragraph tells me all I need to know about your ability to read me. I can't emulate what nacho looks for when he's sorting me. I failed miserably at it in the xenogears game. In the xenologue game, I got past him by never rousing his suspicions in the first place. This game marks a first, I think, where he had a solid but incorrect scumread on me. I could hope that a detailed exchange would prove him wrong, but there is simply no way that I could do it as scum. Maybe one day my scum game will be that good, but I doubt it.
In post 522, morph the cat wrote:Being known as slow to vote at times as town is convenient when I'm scum, but it's a prominent feature of my town game, to the point where putting an early vote down garners suspicion among players who know my town game.
if that was the case, you would answer "because i dont want to vote now" or something similar to pieguy's question. you had no reason to bring up all the "we are a team" bullshit. the reason you did is to make it more believable and draw less attention than you would draw with such an answer.
R~
Nope. My hydra games are littered with similar comments.
In post 522, morph the cat wrote:Nope. I was very confused by the disconnects, though and had to go back and reread the rules.
nope. you admitted that you discussed the setup with cabd before the game, and you even talked with him about what mafia role to vote after it had started. theres no way all this took place with you having not understood the setup.
R~
Nope. We talked a little bit about the roles and what the interactions would be, but not the detailed mechanics. As per our usual division of labor, my focus is reads and his is mechanics.
"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae
In post 470, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:Enabling rolecop would force scum to have to actually kill the PR. we have a back-up, so even if they find it we will still have another PR and, it'll take two days for them to find/kill the PR at best.
In post 489, Sakura Hana wrote:Currently I dont have any actual scumreads, but I got 3 nulls which are Neo, Skelda, and Arnold. So i'm hoping to get some information there.
^good reads
In post 499, morph the cat wrote:Not yet, not putting Skelda at L-1. I want to see more from both Neonizer and Skelda.
Cabd's still working on an analysis of the PR permutations, too.
"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae
that question doesn't make any sense. you think I'm scum because you haven't seen play that's "totally different" than one of my scumgames? why does my towngame have to me totally different? rather than comparing to my towngames, this seems like you're just selectively applying meta to get whatever result you want
assuming you've finished reading, mind explaining why I'm scummy?
@Sakura:
do you know something I don't <_>
Hi, I'm Mara.
That question should make more sense now.
I've made it pretty clear that, at that point, I had just started reading. said I was scum reading you, because your play was similar to Kanye's game and I only got
6 pages in
trying to read up, while responding usually leads to missing a question or two
Bertnut is town, based on initial vibes they were giving off.
~L
Hydreigon, the Brutal Pokemon.
They are scary.
They consume and destroy everything.
If you so much as move, you are a foe.
meanwhile, I'm still not seeing anything different from how you approached Kanye's game and, you're response to me asking if you're play is going to be different from your scum game isn't all that comforting.
Hydreigon, the Brutal Pokemon.
They are scary.
They consume and destroy everything.
If you so much as move, you are a foe.
In post 526, morph the cat wrote:I could hope that a detailed exchange would prove him wrong, but there is simply no way that I could do it as scum. Maybe one day my scum game will be that good, but I doubt it.
hmm...
Hydreigon, the Brutal Pokemon.
They are scary.
They consume and destroy everything.
If you so much as move, you are a foe.
In post 526, morph the cat wrote:I could hope that a detailed exchange would prove him wrong, but there is simply no way that I could do it as scum. Maybe one day my scum game will be that good, but I doubt it.
hmm...
I don't claim to be an expert on all my tendencies as town or as scum. But I do know pretty much what my limitations are as both.
"I used to think you had this elegant-trolly, minimalist playstyle. Then I realized the playstyle is ~Lazy~
The true enlightenment was realizing that they are the same thing."
~fferyllt
"who the fuck fakeclaims Tracker like that
WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT"
~Alisae
9 Players are alive. This math relies on the most likely case that we lynch a vanilla townie today. (A PR for PR trade is in town's favor with only two scum in the game on day one; so any non-vanilla claim can be CC'd) Given the micro nature of this game, a single missed kill only gives us a day of no lynching into lylo; not an actualy extra day. Therefore I feel it's best to maximize information over kill saving. The following math is rough and may leave out certain complications, if it does, feel free to amend it.
Four options today: Jailkeeper-Roleblocker; Jailkeeper-Rolecop; Doctor-Roleblocker; Doctor-Rolecop
8 Alive: 4 VT, 1 Town PR, 1 town backup, 1 scum PR, 1 scum backup:
Jailkeeper-Roleblocker: Odds of blocking a kill are 2 in 8 (hitting either the killer or the target) minus 1/6 (since scum won't roleblock themselves or their partner)
Jailkeeper-Rolecop: Odds of blocking kill are 2 in 8 (hitting either the killer or the target) minus the (1/6-1/8) chance that scum kills the PR (since you can't JK yourself) Either way, scum gets information about power roles in the setup at a 7/8ths chance (only fails if jailkept themselves)
Doctor-Roleblocker: Odds of preventing a kill are 1/7 (cannot self protect) minus the 1/6th chance that they are roleblocked anyways (in other words, if both parties fire randomly, the chance of a save approaches zero)
Doctor-Rolecop: Odds of preventing a kill are 1/7th, and the scum is 100% assured to get information about the setup.
I think you're forgetting about the JK and RB targeting each other scenario, morph.
Let me get reading... Poker in an hour too.
"It hurts to have control over anything. I'd rather be a leaf in the wind."
Call me Lily instead. Avatar is Bellossom from Pokemon! drawn by Ether.
Espeonage (08:39) - lily is happy = everything is good with the world
In post 534, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:meanwhile, I'm still not seeing anything different from how you approached Kanye's game and, you're response to me asking if you're play is going to be different from your scum game isn't all that comforting.
how is 6 pages enough to sort my alignment, when your reason is "there's nothing different"? do you think it's not possible that it just happened to match by coincidence?
what makes the way I'm playing in this game similar to the way I played in kayne's game?
In post 538, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:also, why is Skelda scum, and Neon null while both of them are the same content and activity wise?
Pedit: I'm trying to think if that's more me-esque or more, Tammy-esque.