Open 535: Enemy of My Enemy

[RationalMadman]

No dude I am actually scum with charizard. I don't even get why you think i'm wifoming.

[RationalMadman]

As for the werewolves, I think they are Banakai and bubbajack hehehehe

[bubbajack8]

And what have we done that is WW indictive?

[RationalMadman]

you howled at the moon while buttraping a vampire.

[Banakai]

plz I do that every day

VOTE: Rm

I didn't even notice that scumclaim until you guys started talking about it

[Daniel Bryan]

VOTE: Daniel Bryan

You will never be the face of the WWE. It will always be Randy Orton.

No! No! No!

Seriously, this made me sad.

Okay now time for a legit recap.

[Team 9]

Prod dodge

Cirno has been busy and Mystia & Rumia are in V/LA so

I'll get back to this tomorrow.

[RationalMadman]

plz I do that every day

VOTE: Rm

I didn't even notice that scumclaim until you guys started talking about it

[Daniel Bryan]

8 is odd, Burke, are you assuming that scum would give the results to other scum?

10 I see no need for a second RVS vote. Also, this defeats the purposic of having the Amnesic PRs.

29Scumpost. "Wait is this serious" captain obvious post. Rational just made my scumlist.

37 Why is this a scum tell?

38 again, what is to be gained by faking stupidity?

50 Jingle hydra has a point, this is the fake dumbtell that actually matters.

53 this is hypocritical from the guy who called a "fake dumb tell"

59 feels rather odd to me. I hate seeing the "Why arent you voting x or y" from TvK because while it sounds like contribution when its really not.

63 Obvious joke taken seriously by bubba. Discredit much? This post just pretty much tried to make Team 9 look bad without actual scumhunting.

Early town reads: Team 9, Jordan

Im not even sure if RM is serious with the OMGUS accusation or not.. SMH

80 So Shockwave, youre not going to explain what made you uneasy about 60 and just claim gut? Furthermore, if you think TvK is scum driving attention away from his scum buddy, you kinda have to say why you think TvK and Team 9 are scum together.

87 Seriously, people take things wayyy to seriously in RVS

I completely disagree with Jingle's whole "RVS must have a small hint of truth".

97 Alright TvK. Is town too.

99 Holy crap this hyde post is scummy as hell. Comments on post 62 uselessly, its fake contribution. His analysis of the TSO unvote is terrible, because RVS wagons make up a wagon, you must keep them there? First you have to tell us why the wagon is good to begin with. Then. I ask you this, why is a wagon good when it is built up from RVS votes instead of legit votes? And the opportunistic comparison of players without explanation. Horrific. Lastly, his whole "clearing" of RM with the whole "red herring idea"

VOTE: erneiz_hyde
Sheep me.

Meh, I kind of like beastcharizard's attack but i think Banakai's responses are genuine.

Also lurking entails I've actually been following the game.

Holy crap, RM. Be FUCKING useful dammit.

And Banakai bought it as a legit scum claim. Now it looks scummy but would you guys think ACTUAL scum would do that?

Scum reads:
erneiz
Bubba
RM
Shockwave

[thenewearth]

I have been of some strange activity, but will not be able to comment due to the fact that it may affect certain stuff

[thenewearth]

Vote Count

Team 9 (1) - Shockwave Rider
hattah (0) -
T S O (0) -
TvK (0) -
RationalMadman (1) - Banakai
Daniel Bryan (0) -
beastcharizard (0) -
Agent Minnesota (0) -
erneiz_hyde (2) - Agent Minnesota, Daniel Bryan
Banakai (3) - BwBurke, RationalMadman, beastcharizard
Jordan_Downey (0) -
BwBurke (4) - TvK, Team 9, Jordan_Downey, erneiz_hyde
Shockwave Rider (0) -

Not Voting - bubbajack, T S O

7 People's voices are needed to lynch.

Agent Minnesota never picked up his prod.
Searching for replacement right away

[RationalMadman]

I have been of some strange activity, but will not be able to comment due to the fact that it may affect certain stuff

[RationalMadman]

Scum reads:
erneiz
Bubba
RM
Shockwave[/quote]

[RationalMadman]

hehehehehehe

[thenewearth]

Please refrain from spamming

[RationalMadman]

Banakai and Rational are both on my scum radar.

we r the werewolves

[Jordan_Downey]

I completely disagree with Jingle's whole "RVS must have a small hint of truth".

You missed the point. There has to be a reason for RVS to work correctly, otherwise it's random voting which gives no real information. I kind of liked your points on a few fronts, but we've got some problems DannyBoy.

How did Rational make your scumlist from 29, someone else's post? Or were you meaning to mention a different post?

Why do you agree with my reasoning about why Burke is scummy, and not have any read on him whatsoever?

Erniez deserves a second look right now, DB raised some valid points that I'm going to have to look over.
Bubba had been a gut town read on me, but 152 is taking RM, an obvious troll, far too seriously.
RM is incredibly annoying, but that's not an alignment tell. I don't really see him as scum, and I'm not sure why you do.
Shockwave is being all lurktastic, but nothing from him is rubbing me the wrong way.

RM is being a troll. Do not engage the troll. Do not look directly at the troll. Do not attempt to rationalize the troll's behavior. Any attempt at doing these justifies his behavior and will make it continue.

[Jordan_Downey]

-Jingle

[Daniel Bryan]

He's less scummy than the other guys.

[RationalMadman]

haha I am bored of lynching my werewolf partner so I will just lynch my maf counterpart

VOTE: beastcharizard

[bubbajack8]

@ DB:

I had three pages to go off of, how extensive can you scum hunt off of three pages? I believe RM is a troll. But I know scum won't kill him, but I don't want to lynch him IF he's just a troll. -_-

[RationalMadman]

[Shockwave Rider]

I'm going to be getting in a full reread tomorrow.

I'm becoming more suspicious of RM. His strategy could be very effective as scum because the other scumteam won't be likely be likely to kill him. Probably won't be investigating him either. He could be playing this way with that purpose in mind. I'm going to take a look at his meta and see if this is just his general playstyle though.

Just saying, in all my experience (which I guess isn't as much as your guy's) I have never seen scum lurk.
Not saying it's impossible, just highly unlikely.

Your sample size is too small. Believe me it happens all the time. I kind of feel Banakai wouldn't be saying this as scum though.

80 So Shockwave, youre not going to explain what made you uneasy about 60 and just claim gut? Furthermore, if you think TvK is scum driving attention away from his scum buddy, you kinda have to say why you think TvK and Team 9 are scum together.

Just about all of team 9's post 60 gave me gut pings. I would say it's because they feel forced but it's difficult to explain why that is in any detail. I mean they were just giving the most pro-town looking response to every quote.

You know this game is multiball right?

[bubbajack8]

you know what, there's no town reason to keep RM. I'm done.

VOTE: RM

[Jordan_Downey]

To those voting RM you are wasting time and energy. He's going to not play the game. It's best to treat him like a lurker honestly much anything else is a disruptive player policy lynch. We can actually use day one to scum hunt or lynch RM call it a day, I can see at least one town play. Not saying RM is town or scum. Who knows. I'd probably guess town however disruptive and troll his posts are if it comes down to it we can always waste time on him later.

To me the votes on him read somewhere between impatient town willing to policy lynch early to opportunistic scum play. Neither is town beneficial but how blatant it is I'd say it's less likely to be a scum tell on bubba and banakai

In response to scum lurking or not. My one completed game here involved scum lurking through the game and have seen it in many read throughs. So I'm positive it happens. I personally plan on fleshing out some reads from my side of things but so far we are of a like mind.