Open 535: Enemy of My Enemy

[RationalMadman]

bubbajack is lying ww and mafia can joint win

[beastcharizard]

If you truely hate us all and want village to lose why don't you just vote yourself off?

[RationalMadman]

because we are hitting VERY dangerous low numbers, once there's 4 town vs 4 scum they can just force a nl.

[RationalMadman]

now the ratio si too low for me to have fun

[Team 9]

Uh hello. I'm going to vote a fucking guilty. That's not opprotunistic, that's how town wins. Voting scum and WW off

derp. opportunistic was prob the wrong word. what I mean was he asked you why you were voting him and you deflected by saying if it was a guilty you wouldn't be voting him. which doesn't answer his question

Frankly, I won't be as surprised if anyone other than RM got the results. It's not that I'm not worried about you and BC, just that this currently gets the most of my attention. One thing at a time.

why wouldn't you be as surprised?

And uh...how am I furthering the RM wagon when I'm clearing my suspicion from him? Just for the record, what I meant was RM is probably townie, and the rest is a scenario I thought IF he's actually scum. Even I can see it's a pretty long stretch, so bottom line is I don't really believe RM is scum.

you're pushing the wagon along by subtly bringing up a scenario where he could be scum. then if he flips town you can be like "I knew he'd flip town"

the denial of being not worried about me/BC implies you're worried about RM/Banakai. if you don't believe RM is scum why were you worried about him?

Were my words really that confusing?

yes @_@

[Team 9]

-Mystia

[Rainbowdash]

Im getting a bit bored here.

Why isn't RM dead yet?

He is scummy. He is essentially trolling. He is showing no interest in helping.

[RationalMadman]

you moron piece of sh*t closet lesbian pony. go and rape your mother

[thenewearth]

you moron piece of sh*t closet lesbian pony. go and rape your mother

I have already warned you about attacks like this.

For that, I have no choice but to force replace you.

[Team 9]

you moron piece of sh*t closet lesbian pony. go and rape your mother

I have already warned you about attacks like this.

For that, I have no choice but to force replace you.

/rekt

[Daniel Bryan]

You should get permabanned for this.

[Team 9]

lmao
RBD I think I love you

-Mystia

[thenewearth]

Ok guys move along.

[beastcharizard]

UNVOTE:

I don't like the new replacement coming in at L-1.

[Jordan_Downey]

Alright. Now can we perhaps continue playing the game and look at a lynch based on alignment?

Right now I'm most leaning db or bubbjack as most likely scum at this point.

Bubbajacks responses in 348/9 don't seem to really answer what he's quoting. Also why would he be interested in going along with a stupid plan especially one that is his lynch? I feel he's just throwing words at the doubts casting his way and they don't make sense.

-aphix

[Team 9]

@aphix:

why DB? also, what are your thoughts on TSO?

ftr the issue about bubba going along with his lynch also pinged me too. it's prob just playstyle but I think town should be more opposed to their lynch. if he's town then he's the only one who 100% knows his alignment, and IMO he should be using that information to his advantage. but I think it's probably just playstyle and not alignment indicative

-Mystia

[bubbajack8]

bubbajack is lying ww and mafia can joint win

But they can't attempt to get greedy? And at what point can they joint hmmm?

9 town. 2 WW. 2 Maf.

3 town are dead, so it's

6 town 2 WW 2 Maf.

At this current point WW and Maf can't joint, so my comment stands. They can still work with town to get rid of the otherside.

Now if we lose 2 towns within today and tomorrow, they COULD, but they also can kill eachother. So tell me again. When and how can they joint, and why do you care so much about them jointing? Would you like them to joint?

Uh hello. I'm going to vote a fucking guilty. That's not opprotunistic, that's how town wins. Voting scum and WW off

derp. opportunistic was prob the wrong word. what I mean was he asked you why you were voting him and you deflected by saying if it was a guilty you wouldn't be voting him. which doesn't answer his question

Because he's not helping at all, and he's entirely to worried about a joint, and using it as an excuse for us not to vote him. It's AtE at it's finest. He worries about OMGUS (Which I get is a EpicMafia thing), and yeah.

You should get permabanned for this.

He's already been banned from EpicMafia, don't wish such ill things upon him xD

Bubbajacks responses in 348/9 don't seem to really answer what he's quoting. Also why would he be interested in going along with a stupid plan especially one that is his lynch? I feel he's just throwing words at the doubts casting his way and they don't make sense.

How bout you quote what you don't get like Team9 did so I can actually try to clarify things, instead of vaguely attack me, and agreeing with other people, hmmmm?

ftr the issue about bubba going along with his lynch also pinged me too. it's prob just playstyle but I think town should be more opposed to their lynch. if he's town then he's the only one who 100% knows his alignment, and IMO he should be using that information to his advantage. but I think it's probably just playstyle and not alignment indicative

When have I EVER gone along with my lynch?

[Banakai]

Let's see how rational's replacement is.

[RationalMadman]

fuck you thenewearth

[bubbajack8]

Let's see how

rational

rational's replacement is.

Fixed.

[T S O]

fuck you thenewearth

secks

[Jordan_Downey]

I'm having a problem with this game. See, there are like 4 players that I can actually remember things about. RM has been annoying, but making a big splash. Also with the difference (though slight) between today and yesterday I'm going to say that slot is probably town based on gut. RBD is also feeling very town to me, with the exception of the Policy lynch thing (and yes I still see RM as a policy lynch. He hasn't been

that

scummy, just antitown). Wanting to lynch RM is understandable though, so I'm going to assume he's town as well. Team 9 is a tough read because of the size of their hydra, but they've been posting opinions and scumhunting enough that I've been operating under the assumption I can get to them later.

Bubba is vocal enough, sure, but he let out some associative tells with BW and then nitpicked when people pointed them out. His reactions seem to worried about town opinion towards him, and that's pretty scummy IMO. He also uses a lot of IIoA, but I don't have the time right now to find and quote it. I'll probably get to that later.

Everyone else feels like they're getting lost in the sea of words, and that's troubling. As DB should remember, I'm very opposed to lurkers, and think that lurking is a scumtell, albeit a weak one. I've been avoiding mentioning this to wait for a response from him, but at this point I'm not expecting it to be forthcoming. For that reason:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DB

Hiding in the dregs of the thread is a scumtactic, and one that can be effective. I do not appreciate it, and will attempt to out it whenever possible.

In the interest of helping my own reads, I would like TSO and Ban to tell me what their thoughts on each other are. I would like EH and BC to tell me they think about each other. I would like DB to explain his lack of response to me ignoring him. I would also like everyone to ignore the mod-action from earlier on the page because it has nothing to do with the game.

Alternatively, you can tell me why you will not elaborate on those reads.

-Jingle

[Team 9]

Team 9 is a tough read because of the size of their hydra

Don't be too intimidated. Even though this is 3H hydra technically, D1 I've been doing most of the posting and D2 I've been busy and Mystia have been doing some posting recently.

[bubbajack8]

Bubba is vocal enough, sure, but he let out some associative tells with BW and then nitpicked when people pointed them out. His reactions seem to worried about town opinion towards him, and that's pretty scummy IMO. He also uses a lot of IIoA, but I don't have the time right now to find and quote it. I'll probably get to that later.

[/quote]

What tells?
I didn't understand the logic. Still don't. Your even ignoring it, because according to it I am town. -_-
I'm not gonna vote off scum and get lynched for it. I understand there's this thing called bussing, but yeah no.
IIoA? That tends to be something I do a lot. I'm not an analytic person. Usually. If I'm going for information, and start analyzing it then sure. But being IIoA does not make me scummy. It's how I play. Regardless of role.

[Jordan_Downey]

So we are on Bw why?

Do you seriously think that he's taking this game seriously?

-Cirno

I am, and I got flak for it

Looking forward to JD's reads.

As to the discuss, I can see T S O as scum. But very slightly. the rest of those Team9 posted, I'd like to hear reasoning on.

Shockwave

Town, I agree with T S O.

T S O

I don't like T S O's quick back off. (122, 124) but I still like his "for now"

TVK

I don't see a problem with, he's trying to spark discussion.

RM

I just don't even know......

erniez

Has been very fluffy, and joined Burke. Meh don't like him all too much.

Confirming

VOTE: Banakai

I can understand the wagon on Bw now.

No that's not going to stand.

VOTE: Bw

Places I got weird vibes from your interaction with or lack thereof with BW. This, given his flip is a giant ol' pool of nulltell, so I'm not going to go through the hoops of spelling it out for you.

Your argument of the associative tells clearing you implies a misunderstanding of the application of classical logic here. The argument was: If burke scum, bubba scum. This =/= If burke town, bubba town OR If bubba scum, burke scum. I was also not 100% sold on the strength of the associative.

Stay tuned for the rest of the arguments.

-Jingle