NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2600 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:27 pm

The only way MC could be non-scum is if Roleblocking is classified as a protective action, which I've seen it as.

Guyett · Post Post #2601 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:28 pm

its not on the wiki.
AFB needs to do a full claim imo

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2602 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:29 pm

AFB is getting lynched at the end of the day.

What happens before then doesn't matter.

ISO · Post Post #2603 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:08 pm

In post 2600, RadiantCowbells wrote:The only way MC could be non-scum is if Roleblocking is classified as a protective action, which I've seen it as.

???

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2604 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:26 pm

http://wiki.sc2mafia.com/index.php?titl ... Protective

ISO · Post Post #2605 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:34 pm

I just don't understand what caused you to leap to that conclusion... are you asserting that mafia doctors don't exist?

It's not relevant anyway since you are clearly full of shit, but...

ISO · Post Post #2606 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:35 pm

Oh, the wiki page explicitly states that mafia doctors don't have guns. I assumed whoever said that was crazy.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2607 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:45 pm

I'm not buying the existence of a mafia doctor in a save where one person died last night.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2608 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:46 pm

In post 2605, Cephrir wrote:It's not relevant anyway since you are clearly full of shit, but...

Then lynch me and know for sure.

JacobSavage · Post Post #2609 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:51 pm

Yeahh... Its actually normally up to the Mod based on the Mafia Doctor thing.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2610 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:04 pm

There's no town motivation in simultaneously trying to discredit me and not pushing a lynch on me.

Today we're my guilty, and no one else.

goodmorning · Post Post #2611 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:12 pm

my life

Votecount 3.9

Angry Frat BROs [L-3] - RadiantCowbells, Hermy, Guyett, yessiree

Hermy [L-5] - TheIrishPope, Angry Frat BROs

Guyett [L-6] - sangres

sangres [L-6] - JacobSavage

RadiantCowbells [L-6] - MC Maraca

Not Voting [3] - Cephrir, PeregrineV, Toomai

With 12 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-12-13 22:39:00).

ISO · Post Post #2612 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:18 pm

I guess it's possible. I just wish RC hadn't deliberately ruined his own credibility repeatedly, it would make it a lot easier to believe. Even though everything makes sense if we think of it that way.

ISO · Post Post #2613 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:19 pm

And there could be a scum godfather only catchable by the gunsmith. That'd be really cute. Only issue with that theory is that Maraca is almost definitively scum if we accept RC and TIP as both real.

MC Maraca · Post Post #2614 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:20 pm

RC isn't a cop. He's not even mildly suspicious of tippy; who claimed an investigative role that wouldn't be alongside cop in a game this size.

ISO · Post Post #2615 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:21 pm

I'm not sure I agree. There's a small open setup with 2 cops. Why not a cop and a gunsmith?

ISO · Post Post #2616 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:22 pm

I would really like to put my crazy paranoid theories to bed and go back to playing mafia based on players' actual in thread performance and I don't think I will ever be completely at ease in this game while AFB and MCM are both alive. I've felt this way since the moment I saw the N1 kill.

ISO · Post Post #2617 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:24 pm

I just don't understand why RC would botch his reaction to orcinus so incredibly badly.

ISO · Post Post #2618 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:25 pm

Also, TIP didn't go "scum scum scum lynch lynch lynch" when orcinus claimed cop. Guess he thought it was plausible to have both roles in the same setup!

And cop/follower is almost as crazy as cop/gunsmith but you didn't instantly lynch orcinus.

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo you fail at logic.

MC Maraca · Post Post #2619 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:25 pm

In post 2618, Cephrir wrote:And cop/follower is almost as crazy as cop/gunsmith but you didn't instantly lynch orcinus.

Because I had means to verify it.

ISO · Post Post #2620 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:37 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=21285 2 cops in 18 players
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=22676 cop & tracker in 17 players
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=22748 cop & 2 1-shot gunsmiths in 19 players

all new york

you lose

MC Maraca · Post Post #2621 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:38 pm

In post 2620, Cephrir wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=21285 2 cops in 18 players
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=22676 cop & tracker in 17 players
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=22748 cop & 2 1-shot gunsmiths in 19 players

all new york

you lose

I comfortably sit corrected.

ISO · Post Post #2622 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:39 pm

PS, I only went through about 15 games to find those and never checked the roles of any players who survived the game

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2623 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:32 pm

The vast majority of my scumreads jumped to Orcinus from AFB.

That suggests that AFB is some sort of scum PR, which give further credence to MC's defending him.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2624 (ISO) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:33 pm

Also, at no point did MC Maraca or AFB try to get me lynched.

They just wanted me discredited and ignored.