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[Stuffed Crust]

@Silver:

Bulba feels stubborn, but not really scum.

@Bulba:

If it was an opportunistic push, then I'd be pushing. I just want answers. As for my scum-hunting being sub-standard, well, yeah. It kinda is. Sorry?

@Tier:

I'm allowed to be a hypocrite. There's also differences in the sheeps you've made and the one I just pulled. If anything, what's important is to discern the nature of a vote/sheep, and call attention to what is problematic in it. In that regard, we're operating on a similar level.

P-EDIT: Cherry, why?
Obscurity, please answer the questions I asked.

-V

[The Silver Bard]

So after reading through the game I got a townread on BBmolla, Bulbazak and Stuffed Crust.

And I am scumreading TierShift and Obscurity. The reads are basically gut reads, or in other words how I feel their posts.

TierShifts posts seems strange to me, and I get an unnatural feel to how he plays. His 113 and 126 feels overly defensive and his 143 feels very made up, I don't see why he ffels the need to comment on bbmolla in such a generic way, and I don't see what good his question at Obscurity will do, it just feels forced to me.

Obscurity's two posts seems very strange to me. I don't like either one of them. His first post feels like he is trying to hard to be funny and easygoing. His second post is the same, while not providing any content. He is also lurking hardcore. I am ok with lynching both as of now. But I think Obscurity is the best one, as TierShift at least is posting and will probably doom himself if he is scum.

VOTE: Obscurity

Hah, missed Obscurity's first post. Don't like that one either. And his fourth post is also meeeeeeh. Will you post some reads anytime soon Obscurity?

[Bulbazak]

Why is Fu probably scum?

Because he dropped a RVS vote and then lurked away all of his problems and is not addressing anything that comes his way. Heck, I asked him this early in the game, and I still haven't heard from him regarding it:

Fu, what's with the hard on for me? This seems to be more than just standard RVS BS.

If people are going to call Obscurity scum for lurking and not addressing questions addressed to him, they need to do so to Fu as well, perhaps even more so, since his play feels very surface anyway.

unvote

That wagon wasn't going anywhere anyway.

That's it? You're not going to address anything else? And what's with only checking in every 3 days anyway?

@Bulba:

If it was an opportunistic push, then I'd be pushing. I just want answers. As for my scum-hunting being sub-standard, well, yeah. It kinda is. Sorry?

Fair enough.

Unvote

[TierShift]

TierShifts posts seems strange to me, and I get an unnatural feel to how he plays. His 113 and 126 feels overly defensive and his 143 feels very made up, I don't see why he ffels the need to comment on bbmolla in such a generic way, and I don't see what good his question at Obscurity will do, it just feels forced to me.

I didn't realize you wanted a response to that, but, well, here it is.
If someone attacks me, I defend myself. I answer all points being thrown at me, trying to invalidate as many as possible. That's how I roll. It's like what I'm doing now. I don't know what you mean by your comments on 143, I really don't understand what's forced about it and how asking obscurity questions is wrong.

@Tier:

I'm allowed to be a hypocrite. There's also differences in the sheeps you've made and the one I just pulled. If anything, what's important is to discern the nature of a vote/sheep, and call attention to what is problematic in it. In that regard, we're operating on a similar level.

I don't see the difference between our sheeps. Mind explaining?

Even though cherry's vote was bad, I'm sooo tempted to hammer obscurity...(not actually stating intent)

Obscurity why just why are you annoying us like this?

P-edit: agreeing with bulba on fu, obscurity is just playing lynchbait on purpose while fu has gone hiding.

[The Silver Bard]

I agree with you on FU Bulbazak. While reading through the game yesterday he pretty much went under the radar for me. After filtering him now I see that his posts is just a whole lot of nothingness. This is indeed suspicious.

[Does Bo Know]

Votecount 1.08

[L-1] Obscurity - BBmolla, The Silver Bard, Stuffed Crust, CherryDrPepper

[L-3] Bulbazak - FuDuzn, Titus
[L-4] Stuffed Crust - TierShift

Not voting: Obscurity, Bulbazak

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Friday, December 27 at 4:00 PM CST ((expired on 2013-12-27 16:00:00)).

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Remember, you guys can request to prod people if enough time has passed.

CherryDrPepper is V/LA until the end of Monday.

[Stuffed Crust]

@Tier: The main thing I noticed is that your votes didn't seem to have much purpose other than agreeing with another player or slapping a vote. You haven't coupled questions or cases with them (at least, within the same post as the vote itself).

-V

[BBmolla]

Obscurity is shaking in his boots, just look at him

[BBmolla]

=17438]Dude, why do you join games only to post only 200 posts, is that actually fun?

[BBmolla]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=17438
@Obscurity: Dude, why do you join games only to post only 200 posts, is that actually fun?

[BBmolla]

Fuck it.

[BBmolla]

Obscurity needs to start posting or replace out.

[TierShift]

Dude, BB, not cool...even though I agree with you.

[Bulbazak]

No bringing up ongoing games! Seriously Molla, you should know better.

I also don't think Obscurity's activity is alignment related. I think it's just getting in the way of scumhunting. I find Fu more likely to be scum, and I sincerely doubt both scum are lurking.

[BBmolla]

Oi, apologies, thought it was finished :X

You can force replace me if you want mod.

[BBmolla]

Pretty embarrassing.

[BBmolla]

That's what I get for assuming joindate is relevent

[BBmolla]

I'll wait for mod to tell me what he wants to do before I continue posting

[BBmolla]

If I get modkilled for that then I'm sorry

[Does Bo Know]

You get a warning, BBmolla. Next time you do that I will modkill you.

You can mention that a player is posting in other games, but you cannot say anything further.

[BBmolla]

Great thank you. You can remove the links if you want.

Regardless, if Obscurity doesn't start posting more, I'm literally advocating a policy lynch on them.

If they're scum, yay, we got lurking scum.

If they're town, yay, he won't lurk and then hammer me incorrectly in LYLO.

Of course, if he actually starts frequently posting, I'm willing to reconsider.

[CherryDrPepper]

unvote

That wagon wasn't going anywhere anyway.

This is the post that pretty much made me reconsider my "Obscurity is low hanging fruit" deal. Im cool with this.

Bb is town.
Stuffed Crust is town.

Not sure about Silver Bard because I think Venrob's replaceout was completely unrelated to the game. But I like his "I dont know why you guys are town reading me"

Obs partner is Bulbazak.

[Bulbazak]

Obs partner is Bulbazak.

I'm all ears.

Also, you didn't address Titus or Fu.

[CherryDrPepper]

Because I barely feel Fu's prescence and Im not sure on Titus.
I felt like her push on Bb was weird earlier, but Sakura reminded me this is how Titus is.

Well for one, your post 16 bugged me. Your tried to buddy is from an RVS reason.
Second you're strongly scum reading Fu but still vote Stuffed Crust for, idk why. That tunnel isnt making me read you town. Its like youre trying to save obs fmpov by not voting the player who is similar to obs.

Gut scum read, youre second after obs.

[Bulbazak]

Well for one, your post 16 bugged me. Your tried to buddy is from an RVS reason.

No, I just know how you operate, whereas Tier does not.

Second you're strongly scum reading Fu but still vote Stuffed Crust for, idk why.

I'm no longer voting him, but I did have a scumread on him, and I explained why several times.

Its like youre trying to save obs fmpov by not voting the player who is similar to obs.

How would that work exactly? I'm not voting Fu, because I have no interest in placing a vote on him at this point in time. I'm more interested in what Ob's response will be.