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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:57 am

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Votecount 2.05


[L-1] FuDuzn - BBmolla, Bulbazak, Titus, The Silver Bard

[L-3] Titus - TierShift, FuDuzn

Not voting: Stuffed Crust, CherryDrPepper

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Tuesday, January 14, 2014 at 7:00 PM CST ((expired on 2014-01-14 17:00:00)).

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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:07 am

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Nope you could be scum and have no killed and now claim doc. Risky but no way conftown.
Stop setup speculating because it only will help scum.
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:38 pm

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I'm not a huge fan of no killing as scum. I think it plays against your wincon a majority of the time. And scum would already know how many PRs the town has. Setup spec only helps town at this point.
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:57 pm

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If you insist.

Then if scum has no strongman town has either a 1-shot vig, a 1-shot friendly neighbour or a 1-shot roleblocker. The latter 2 would have claimed by now I think, so I suppose we have a vig. And we have a mafia roleblocker then so the vig cannot claim.

Thoughts?
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:00 pm

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We don't have a friendly neighbor, because we should have heard from somebody by now concerning it. That was actually why I didn't want anybody else to vote Fu at the beginning of the day. We either have a vig. or a RB, neither of which would or should claim if they haven't used their ability. Again, I think I know what we have and who has it, but I'd rather not out that person.
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:13 pm

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I think know who has what as well and I'm just hoping that this little chitchat of ours didn't just help scum in finding out.
Can you maybe further elaborate on how the latest Fu posts come from scum and what still makes him so scummy?
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:15 pm

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Fu is still flailing. His most recent posts are still more complicated version of AtE equating in "lynch me and you'll be sorry". He's not doing any original scumhunting and is instead trying to throw suspicion on as many people as possible.
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:16 pm

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If we have a roleblocker who blocked night one, I think he should claim, as it means he probably blocked scum. And if that is the case, then your claim might be false Bulba.
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:21 pm

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In post 556, Bulbazak wrote:Fu is still flailing. His most recent posts are still more complicated version of AtE equating in "lynch me and you'll be sorry". He's not doing any original scumhunting and is instead trying to throw suspicion on as many people as possible.
I.....uhh......what? And you wonder why I was convinced you were scum.

Please quote post of mine that equates to me threatening town with my own lynch. Also.....that doesn't even make sense.

To anybody that has played with bulba, does he normally have a scummy vibe about him?
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:24 pm

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Bard if we did have an RB that used his powers I think he would have claimed long ago. I don't see how a RB claiming would invalidate bulba's claim, though.

Bulba, I don't see how his most recent posts are AtE but I do agree that his reads are all over the place. I think I could see myself voting him again if he doesn't work harder to catch scum, but he's made a start and I wanna see how it develops.

P-edit: fu gtfo that bulba post was not scummy at all
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:06 pm

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SC's reads list looks terribly opportunistic.
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:09 pm

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In post 557, The Silver Bard wrote:If we have a roleblocker who blocked night one, I think he should claim, as it means he probably blocked scum. And if that is the case, then your claim might be false Bulba.
I agree with this fwiw
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:49 am

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In post 559, TierShift wrote:Bard if we did have an RB that used his powers I think he would have claimed long ago.
I don't see how a RB claiming would invalidate bulba's claim, though.


Bulba, I don't see how his most recent posts are AtE but I do agree that his reads are all over the place. I think I could see myself voting him again if he doesn't work harder to catch scum, but he's made a start and I wanna see how it develops.

P-edit: fu gtfo that bulba post was not scummy at all

It wouldn't necessarily invalidate Bulba’s claim. But to me it would make Bulba’s claim weaker. As the reason for the no kill night one could be a successful roleblock. If the roleblock in fact was on Bulba though, Bulba might be willing to smoke out the RB’er, and if lucky a doctor as well.

But if there were a roleblock night one it might have missed and Bulba did in fact save BB. We would pretty much be forced to lynch the one who the RB’er claimed to RB, and if we missed it would be easy to go on to mislynch the RB’er.

In any case a RB who wishes to claim anything that might give us the reason to believe Bulba’s claim is false should do it today (this also holds true if a RB wish to claim something that makes my claim appear false). The reason for this is that doing this at MYLO or LYLO will put the town in a either this player or this player is lying, and a mislynch will make the scum win. While doing it now makes it possible to mislynch first and then kill the liar after. So a competing claim at MYLO or LYLO I will 100% threat as a scumclaim, as it is far far better for town to do it while we have the chance to lynch both.
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:06 am

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V/LA till the 2nd
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:40 am

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In post 563, BBmolla wrote:
V/LA till the 2nd
Ditto
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:33 am

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C9-- is such a dangerous game to false-claim in, just like C9++ is. You'd have to really study the game. You could only fake-claim strongly if you were scum, since you'd know the letters scum had and could claim anything within those margins. So, I'm pretty much where I either have to believe all the claims or if I don't, there's scum there.
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:40 am

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In post 564, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 563, BBmolla wrote:
V/LA till the 2nd
Ditto
Triple ditto.

The C9s fakeclaiming might work to a limited extent but I'd expect scum to actually want to put massclaim off as long as possible. The rolefishing would bother me but for the fact I don't see scum claiming so early so I'm assuming y'all are just trying to gamebreak. Scum are better off by trying to wait and claiming a role at the inopportune time. Scum know how many PRs there are but not which ones. There's literally no point in speculating if there is a roleblocker. If we want to know, we massclaim and force the scums hand. If not, we live with the ambiguity. I don't see a middle ground as anything else just helps the scum determine which PRs are in the game and their power.

The setup seems much similar to a JK++ game that I played awhile back. Almost won it.
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:59 pm

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I agree that set-up speculation at this point is pretty silly, we should scumhunt instead. But when the topic was brought up I felt the need to say what I said, as counterclaiming at MYLO/LYLO only will give town a major headache.
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:26 pm

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I think I'm pretty sure fu is scum and if he isn't bulba is.

I'll explain after I get an answer to this.
In post 532, Titus wrote:Yeah well I am human Tier. I try but I got no sleep last night.

1)Attacking me to avoid Fu wagon
2) You know Fu is likely to join you out of preservation
3) It is much harder to lynch scum when scum don't bus
4) You have a hedge in your reads if Fu is scum
5) You are trying to associate me with Fu.

That looks like textbook scum to me, although your play aside from this has been pretty town. So I can't have you as my biggest townread outside the block.
In post 536, TierShift wrote:Titus I really don't understand what you are saying. Do those 5 points reflect my behaviour, my thought-process, your own thought-process or are they just general comment on the current state of affairs?
Are you yourself trying to link myself to fu or what?
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:29 pm

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Oh I also want cherrydrpepper to give their fully synched up reads list and possible intent first.
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:50 pm

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@Tier, my bad. They are the probable thought processes behind you being scum. It was a bit stream of consciousness. I still like Cherry as scum more than you, but I was getting my thought processes down on paper.
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:23 pm

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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:22 pm

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Prodding CherryDrPepper.

Attempting to replace FuDuzn. If he posts before I find a replacement, he stays. If he needs to be prodded on more time, force replace, no more mulligans.

Also, I usually do vote counts every page, but you guys can request a VC whenever you want since sometimes days go by without a vote count. I usually just try once per page to make it easy to count votes on the page you're posting on.
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:49 pm

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Oh lord, I deeply apologize Mod. Between the site going down again and new years I didn't realize it had been so long.

I still would prefer a Titus lynch, would multiple heads of a scum cherry hydra both lurk as scum?

I will get more into the game tomorrow.
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:25 pm

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CherryDP needs to get in the game.
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