In post 458, T S O wrote: In post 25, PinkMittens wrote:Taylor seems to have covered everything, we got this game in the bag!^^
/conf
Starts off the game trying to appease Taylor. Why?
Calling the fact that I make a joking post pre-game appeasing is hilariously weak.
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In post 40, PinkMittens wrote:
VOTE: toolenduso
getting defensive before we even enter rvs!
This reeks of fake scumhunting.
In post 46, PinkMittens wrote: In post 42, toolenduso wrote:Not really. I was just pointing out that they were making scumreads and townreads before the game had even started.
The way players have responded to it since then makes me think it was more of a joke than I originally thought, but now I'm just confused.
@Taylor: Was there actually a reason for your reads in the confirmation stage post, or were you just trying to kickstart discussion?
Only cares about posts aimed at him. Doesn't care about finding scum. Defensive mindset. Scum mentality.
Bullshit of the highest nature. We are on page 2 - I doubt toolenduso ever even comprehended finding scum on page 2, let alone actively look for them. This is an unfair question which targets tool's newness.
As well as mongering negativity towards tool, the post is full of misreps. Tool not understanding one of Taylor's tactics means he "doesn't care about finding scum and has a scum mentality?" Stop right there, you've proven how full of holes your case is by yourself.
Yeah, trying to get some actual content going over remaining in rvs is so incredibly scummy, can't believe I didn't think of that! Obviously it’s not a good case on page two, but it’s better to push at whatever little thing you can find than to throw around RVS votes (or do nothing but self-vote until post 250). Unlike you I don't actively strive to give town as little information as possible, but quite the opposite.
Tool isn’t new, he has played more than five times as many games (10+) as me. Naio, who tool immediately pounced when he got accused, is.
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/lie.
This is an opportunistic-as-fuck scumlist, where PM doesn't have to stand out from anyone by repeating what they're saying.
Except that I’m the first person who went after Tool. I’m the first person who goes after Cool. You chose to RVS/self-vote over contributing.
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/outright lying.
Paraphrased as: "Why did you change your read from my greatest scumread to my weaker scumread?"
He should be delighted he's pressuring scum. Instead, he worries about appearing thoughtful to everyone else. Now THAT'S a scum mentality.
Very warranted question considering that both tool and you provided a grand total of zero new content between him changing his votes.
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In post 86, PinkMittens wrote:Cool proceeds to completely ignore the most significant occurance in the game, the wagon on tool, and instead proceeds to sheep him. Mentions #joindateelitism, yet builds his entire case on a post easily explained by looking at just that. Nonsense.
The crux of this post is that sheeping tool is scummy, when it's not. We're never told why it's scummy or how he did it is scummy. It's just scummy. That's useless and it doesn't analyse mindset. It's surface deep because the mislynch PinkMittens is pushing is also surface deep.
Yes it is, because the case on Naio is bad. Naio isn’t particularly scummy, but a very easy target (since he, unlike tool, actually is new). I indeed do explain why said case is bad (#55), so this is another
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In post 92, PinkMittens wrote: In post 87, CooLDoG wrote:
sure, whatever, don't give a shit. put your vote with this big talk friend.
Nah I'm "cool". I think your post(s) are nonsense, but I don't see much scum motivation in them either.
You called Cool scum earlier, you called Cool scum later, but the one time Cool put it up to you, you backed the fuck away. Why?
Why would I change my vote from my primary scum read to my secondary simply because he wants me to? I simply don't find him as scummy as tool.
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In post 132, PinkMittens wrote: You seem more interested in making friends than anything else lately, and that kinda rubs me the wrong way (just not sure if it's playstyle or not, gotta meta).
How was Benmage attempting to make friends? I don't see it.
#122-125.
SO. MUCH. OPPORTUNISM.
No, that wagon is what's opportunistic.
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In post 132, PinkMittens wrote:Personally I'm not entirely convinced that Naio is town, but his posts seem genuine and I'm definitely leaning town (unfortunately I think he'd feel genuine panick as either alignment though)
This is yet another example of inconsistency with reads and mindset. PinkMittens isn't convinced Naio is Town, but his posts are genuine and he's definitely leaning Town. What is this? Why are you going in circles constantly?
I’m not convinced=I'm not certain that he’s town. I’m leaning town, for the reasons I mentioned. See the difference between being convinced and leaning? No inconsistency there,
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In post 166, PinkMittens wrote:Regarding Tool: I didn't think his initial reaction to Taylor (#21) was terribly scummy, but I did think that it was the scummiest we had at that point (well, about the only thing). Hence I decided to start with my vote there to see reactions/get the game going. I didn't really like the reactions I got. His posts didn't feel genuine/forced, defensive and jumped on the first opportunity to direct us elsewhere (Naio, which I think is a scummy/terrible wagon in general). Once the attention started to shift to the Naio wagon (that he started) he made no intentions of analysing/questioning the responses from Naio, he simply left the vote there and stopped posting until it started to lose steam. His posts after that are decent to me (#127 feels a little town). That being said, those posts would be very easy to make as scum as well, the questions are obvious/already made elsewhere. When he isn't actively pressured (I don't think he is atm, despite being at L-2) he doesn't really seem to have any incentive of providing content. Most people have been posting quite little in general though, so I guess this doesn't mean too much. I will admit that I don't think the case on tool is far from strong, I'm just not sure if I have a better one atm. That being said, O wouldn't really mind a wagon on Cool either, not sure which one I find scummier atm. Those are the only two (you would've been the third before this page) I'm fine voting for atm, I feel kinda unable to read TSO and regarding the rest I'm leaning town/null or they simply haven't provided enough content yet. More on that tomorrow.
This is the only decent posts that PinkMittens made in the whole game, but there was no follow-up on the push on tool. If I made a huge case on a player, I'd push the damn thing hard. PinkMittens didn't, and the only reason I can think of is that one mislynch is the same as the next.
I didn’t make a huge case, I even state that I don’t think my case is very good (if anything I find it very difficult to make strong cases on D-1).
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/inability to even read my post. I also state that I’m busy in subsequent posts, so even if it was a "huge case" no follow-up wouldn't be strange.
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In post 235, PinkMittens wrote:
Do you still think toolenduso is a realistic lynch? Reads on CooLDog and goodmorning?
I wouldn't be terribly upset about a tool lynch, but I don't think the ideal lynch anymore no. Think Cool is scum, not sure about goodmorning.
UNVOTE: for now. I'll re-read the thread when I get home, I've barely gotten a chance to look at it for days, but I'm leaning towards a Cool vote.
Apparently, PinkMittens hasn't read the thread in days, but still thinks CoolDog is scum due to ...wait, nothing. How unconvincing.
I haven’t read through it properly, but I’ve had time to glance through it. I also scum-read Cool even before this point,
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. Also, you complaining about players not giving reasons for their reads, just lol.
In post 375, PinkMittens wrote:I don't want to lynch Taylor right now. Not really sure if town or scum (~null, haven't read this properly lately), but it's active and I like the mindset (found myself agreeing with quite a few things). I'd rather lynch essentially anyone else with votes right now, they are all either less active nulls or leaning scum to me.
This post is completely inconsistent with itself. Let's use the power of paraphrasing:
"Don't want to lynch Taylor. Completely null read. Active, correct mindset, agreed on many things."
How could that be a null read? Answer: it's not.
I’m saying ~null, not complete null read.
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. I’m saying that I like the mindset/agree on quite a few things, not that he has a correct mindset/that I agree on many things (for example, I got a bad impression from parts of his tool case).
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. That I agree with a player does in no way equal to him being a strong town read.
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Don't even try to change the meaning of my post, scum.
What would be scummy is if I’d have a ton of confident/strong reads despite barely being a part of the game for 10 days.
In post 375, PinkMittens wrote:I'm so not in the game right now (I haven't had time to go through it properly since the site came back) so I kinda hate to vote for someone right now. That being said, I'd hate letting scum control the lynch (especially on someone I don't want dead) way more. Hence I'll be voting Cool, I don't like the mentality/tone (could indeed make him a lynchbait though, but it's the best I have) of his posts, something feels off and I don't think his votes/conclusions make sense. This is hardly set in stone though, and I have a feeling that sheeping snifit might actually be more useful than my own judgement right now.
This, right here, should condemn you to the noose. It's the most cynical, fake, produced reasoning for a mislynch ever. You don't like his mentality or tone? No examples, nothing? No quotes, no anything at all. You even jump the gun by telling us he's lynchbait, and then you vote him anyway.
This makes no sense as a strong scumread.
Earlier in the game, we were told CD was your 2nd highest scumread. This post proves that was a barefaced lie, as you clearly didn't even read CoolDog's ISO.
It makes sense if all I’ve done is glancing through the thread. I don’t have time to go find quotes, I haven’t had time to read through the thread properly, so I say what I have at this stage, the feeling I got from his posts. The other options were to say nothing, or lie. I know what I think benefits town most.
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You should be damn happy with the fact that I didn't have time to through the thread properly, or we wouldn't have to use todays lynch on you.
I read Cools iso earlier on. That I don’t remember exactly what posts that made me suspect him back then after not being active in the game for ~10 days isn’t exactly strange.
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If I wanted an easy misslynch I’d obviously not point out that he may be lynchbait/that my judgement is lacking. I do this because I want to bring attention to the fact that this is a weak read, and that people should form their own opinions/follow a town who is more engaged than me.
You said right above this post you'd hate to let scum control the lynch and you'd hate to vote, then sheeped the largest lurker-VI wagon going. Your mindset doesn't correlate with your actions.
Cool had one vote on him at that point. Taylor had four and you three.
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/outright lying.
In post 392, PinkMittens wrote:Just ask for a replacement if you have no interest in playing the game TSO? Your play makes little sense as scum and even less as town.
Anyways, I'm perfectly fine changing my vote to TSO, he's either scum or purposly anti-town. We could do worse for the D-1 lynch.
Zero interest in a Kaze lynch here as well.
Actually, my play makes sense as either. But that's a sidenote.
Too much pride to let that go scum? Tell me more about how self-votes and not giving a fuck makes sense as town. Tell me how it isn’t anti-town. Please do.
If my play makes no sense as scum, then why would you vote me? You then bring up the classic "anti-town" line, a sure-fire mislynch quote.
I state that your play makes little (not no) sense as scum, and that it makes absolutely no sense as town.
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Your opportunism in being on CoolDog but letting people know you'll lynch me, the only two viable wagons, is shocking.
Another lie. The biggest wagon was on Taylor with Benmage pushing hard (#347) for said lynch. That I'm prepared to lynch someone who purposly acts anti-town/refuses to contribute on D-1 if I can't lynch my number one scum read is hardly strange.
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