Open 535: Enemy of My Enemy

[Mindgamer]

Meanwhile, i think we shouldnt nl, we might lose more town, i think as town we have.a better chance of eliminating scum ourselves than relying on scum to shoot them.

Who do you want to lynch, then?

[bubbajack8]

Also Aegor could always No kill, which we've been ignoring as a possibility. If we NL I can see that happening.

[Jordan_Downey]

Alright. So I am definitely in agreement that a no lynch doesn't work. Ww can Shoot who he wants mafia shoots who they want. They decide to partner and draw they shoot two town. Town looses 2-2-1.

Problem is if we lynch mafia same thing happens is more likely. 4-1 is much more in towns favor. Draw is agreed two town dead. Town looses 2-1-1. They nl and shoot town. No dilemma as both parties are outed and they loose if they go against plan. Same as above.

I've honestly decided the best course of action is to fight through 3/2. Other wise we loose. As best case scenario otherwise is we loose with scum drawing. Worst case scenario we mislynch and mafia shoots town Ww shoots different town. 1-2-1 I don't see how mafia loses that.

We are on the losing side of this game no matter what if we leave ww in. And nl is the second best idea as there is potentially some dilemma. But it becomes a lot of chance. And I'd rather try winning this game.

VOTE: aegor

[erneiz_hyde]

Alright. So I am definitely in agreement that a no lynch doesn't work. Ww can Shoot who he wants mafia shoots who they want. They decide to partner and draw they shoot two town. Town looses 2-2-1.

I have doubts that the two scums would partner. Because it means the mafs will have to intentionally let one of theirs to be killed to create a 2-1-1, the only scenario left where they can both draw. Now why would maf do that if they can just win while they still have both members? And not to mention the identity of both scums are still a mystery, so if they want to deal, they'll have to do that today before the night starts, in front of everyone. Which is a stupid suicidal move on the maf's side.

One of the mafs will only die either by our lynch or ww NK. And in either case I doubt the maf will then give up their potentially-winning anonymity to strike a "draw" deal.

Problem is if we lynch mafia same thing happens is more likely. 4-1 is much more in towns favor. Draw is agreed two town dead. Town looses 2-1-1. They nl and shoot town. No dilemma as both parties are outed and they loose if they go against plan. Same as above.

Now that I think about it, I agree there would be no dilemma, but only becayse the maf's identity is still not out. At that situation, Aegor is a kingmaker because whoever he decides to kill will determine whether it's a maf win or town win, because maf with his anonimity will definitely decide to kill Aegor.

I read again the link aegor gave about dilemmas, it does indeed says the dilemma only occurs if both parties are outed. However as things are now, there is no sure way to out a maf member, it will be a wifom hell. It would've been at least possible had RM outed a mafia, but sadly that didn't happen.

Damn, so even if we NL now, relies on Aegor to shoot scum and lynch maf tomorrow, it could still result in us losing because Aegor will still need to shoot scum...

So uh...why did we decide to let aegor live again?

[thenewearth]

Vote Count

Mindgamer (1) - beastcharizard
bubbajack8 (0) -
DoctorPepper (1) - Aegor
beastcharizard (0) -
erneiz_hyde (2) - Mindgamer, bubbajack8
Aegor (1) -Jordan_Downey
Jordan_Downey (0) -

No Lynch (1) -erneiz_hyde

Not Voting - DoctorPepper,

4 people's voices are needed to lynch

(expired on 2014-01-12 21:30:00)

[beastcharizard]

Because the scum kept saying it was a good idea knowing that they had the best chance of winning with Aegor alive.

[bubbajack8]

TOWN HAS A BETTER CHANCE AS WELL. Jeez dude. Scum has a better chance fighting a 3/2

[beastcharizard]

That is a matter of opinion.

Also, is it just me or are we the only ones really talking?

[bubbajack8]

We're pretty much the only ones. Jordan comes in every once in a while as well.

Beast what do you have against an erniez lynch?

[bubbajack8]

Pretty much all of town's options are shit at this point now that I think about it.

[beastcharizard]

I wouldn't say I am against it there are just at least 3 lynches I would much prefer. I would rather any lynch than a no lynch, but of course i would prefer Aegor the most though.

[Mindgamer]

This day was basically wasted discussing derp logic.

I'm up for a DoctorPepper lynch. Anyone with me?

[beastcharizard]

If you want that lynch why aren't you voting it?

[bubbajack8]

>I'd rather a lynch then a no lynch.
>Discussion about nl
>Not expressing view then
>erniez was at L-1
>could have had a lynch.

[Mindgamer]

If you want that lynch why aren't you voting it?

Unfortunately I can't vote two players at the same time. Just in case you haven't noticed yet, we have less than two days remaining. It seems we'll have to compromise on a lynch at some point. An Erneiz lynch seems hard to achieve at this point, so I'm testing the grounds for a DoctorPepper lynch.

By the way, what's your read on the DoctorPepper slot? I don't believe you've mentioned him in any of your recent posts.

[Aegor]

I would be willing to lynch EH. But I like DP better.

[bubbajack8]

We have 3 players willing for an EH lynch beast....

why Doctor Pepper?

[Aegor]

We have 3 players willing for an EH lynch beast....

why Doctor Pepper?

Three posts like a week? At some point, lurking becomes scummy. And it is a matter of POE.

[beastcharizard]

I have my 3 scum reads and I am stubborn so everyone is town by POE. I will look at both EH and DP though.

[DoctorPepper]

Nope Im just being generally inactive. Im considering replacing out cause Im taking a break from playing soon, but I'd feel sorry for tne for having to find another replacement.

I dont necessarily see EH as scum, and his doubt on your WW claim makes even less sense from a mafia perspective seeing that they can kill you Aegor.

Im much more confident in a JD lynch but I doubt thats gonna happen today.

[bubbajack8]

A JD lynch? *eyebrow raise*

[Jordan_Downey]

So From DPs 619 I read I am lurking but since it's called out I'll quickly jump on and let them know I'm just not interested. Also I won't include anything that contributes to the discussing but try and disrupt with a deadline looming.

I still think the ww is the best vote. He is only working with town while there are still two scum. Our goal to lynch scum succeeding today ends that alliance. And he's shooting a town member. Defeats the purpose if we lynch town and we have a 4/6 chance to do this we just lose tonight if ww mis-shoots. I myself don't like those odds. I'll hopefully get the other head involved soon to see where we are at if a ww lynch isn't in the numbers.

[DoctorPepper]

I never even called you for lurking, I basically said I thought you were scum.

[thenewearth]

Just a reminder that no lynch will occur when a consensus is not reached

Plus bump :3

[Jordan_Downey]

So From DPs 619

"

I read I am lurking but since it's called out I'll quickly jump on and let them know I'm just not interested. Also I won't include anything that contributes to the discussing but try and disrupt with a deadline looming.

"

I don't know if the quotation marks well stand out building and underlined. But I was not speaking for myself paraphrasing your post.