Mini 1536 - Silph Co. Reverse Mafia (Game Over)

[Whiskers]

Its been a long time since Ive done an alliance, we should do that.

How come you only do this at

my

parties?

[Espeonage]

Vote Count

Empking:

Bulbazak, Aj The Epic

Bulbazak:

Empking

Kenobi:

Rainbowdash

cxinlee:

Maxous, Dry-fit, TierShift

Zekrom25:

Kenobi, Whiskers, Paschendale (L-4)

Not Voting:

Psyche, Zekrom25, cxinlee (L-4)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

I am LA for the next two days. I should be able to get on to clear anything up if something happens but you should be ok. I'll be checking on my phone regardless.

[Rainbowdash]

Dashie, why don't you give some good reads, then we can discuss alliance.

Have my town reads forming and they have similar reads, enough to start for me.

Once cix responds I will probably start my push, just some things are up in the air. Cix, Ken... maybe Bulb/Emp/Dry something like that are scum

Its been a long time since Ive done an alliance, we should do that.

How come you only do this at

my

parties?

I just tend to do it when I like my town reads more than scum reads and town reads seem to have similar reads. Also when we have things like Emp/Bulb which just need to be killed off before it damages town and sometimes a distraction works.

[Maxous]

getting rid of empking is looking more viable after #195

[Aj The Epic]

Wasn't aware that I needed to unvote for my previous slot-holder's vote...

Unvote
Vote: Kenobi

AJ's 194 contains a lot of words, and not a lot of content.

I don't understand the bolded bits of Cin's 196. Are you attacking your own read? Your own quote? I am confused.

Dashie, why don't you give some good reads, then we can discuss alliance.

194 had the content it needed to have and the rest was addressed specifically to kenobi (and perhaps Zek, should he read it) about his ¿complaint? about the fact that any post could be called scummy. I went on a bit of a tangent explaining the specifics behind what was searched for and such. It's your own fault you read it when I clearly stated:

(For some mafia 101, since this is your first game, I'll give a real quick crash response about the idea of mafia as it correlates to the second and third paragraph of the quoted post).

I don't see the issue.

[cxinlee]

pasch, I clearly said it was aj's post, I just fucked up the quote tags

dry fit, if you really want to know, read the damn game. maxous linked my games.

[TierShift]

Cx, you didn't address RBD's request asking to elaborate on 196. Could you do so?

Aj seems town.

After seeing 203 I decided to reread on empking and he's been hugely slipping under the radar. 9 of his 12 posts are about addressing a case bulba made on him. He doesn't actually address anything at all, he just keeps saying bulba is wrong and the case is addressed. On top of that, he votes bulba for forcing, which he further doesn't explain. No scumhunting, nothing.

Survival tactics+not hunting. Scum.

Two scumreads atm, cx and emp.

[Paschendale]

After seeing 203 I decided to reread on empking and he's been hugely slipping under the radar. 9 of his 12 posts are about addressing a case bulba made on him. He doesn't actually address anything at all, he just keeps saying bulba is wrong and the case is addressed. On top of that, he votes bulba for forcing, which he further doesn't explain. No scumhunting, nothing.

Survival tactics+not hunting. Scum.

Two scumreads atm, cx and emp.

This is a legit concern that you need to address, Emp.

I do not, however, see the merits in the CX wagon.

[Maxous]

I do not, however, see the merits in the CX wagon.

list his reads for me

[Paschendale]

I do not, however, see the merits in the CX wagon.

list his reads for me

List yours

[Empking]

After seeing 203 I decided to reread on empking and he's been hugely slipping under the radar. 9 of his 12 posts are about addressing a case bulba made on him. He doesn't actually address anything at all, he just keeps saying bulba is wrong and the case is addressed. On top of that, he votes bulba for forcing, which he further doesn't explain. No scumhunting, nothing.

Survival tactics+not hunting. Scum.

Two scumreads atm, cx and emp.

This is a legit concern that you need to address, Emp.

I do not, however, see the merits in the CX wagon.

How have I not addressed anything at all. Name a single point he's made that I haven't mentioned and addressed. Also claiming that my posts are saying that Bulba is 'wrong' is a wilful and undeniable misrepresentation of my claim that Bulba is 'wrong about everything'; Tier gives a dishonest impression with, just, enough similarity with the truth that it couldn't be done, but on purpose.

Forcing is related to his being wrong on everything. Also, the notion that I'm not scum hunting is absurd; I'm interacting with my top scum read, what's Tier been doing other than misrepresent?

[cxinlee]

I will elaborate later on the comp

Most of my reads are null, slightly town on ken.

Now, im curious, how does not having reads make me scum?

[Whiskers]

Now, im curious, how does not having reads make me scum?

Well, no, it mostly just makes you a lazy useless piece of shit. Which is incredibly anti-town, and so you might as well be scum.

[TierShift]

Also claiming that my posts are saying that Bulba is 'wrong' is a wilful and undeniable misrepresentation of my claim that Bulba is 'wrong about everything'; Tier gives a dishonest impression with, just, enough similarity with the truth that it couldn't be done, but on purpose.

What the fuck is this? 'Wrong' is a wilful misrepresentation of 'wrong about everything'? And it's on purpose?
Now the only thing that you have done all game, is defend yourself. That's not scumhunting nor are you gonna find out bulba's alignment with that. And now you say that I haven't done anything all game. Good deflection, very good.

I'll have to say that you eclipse cx in scumminess.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: empking

Ftr, stuff you haven't addressed, only said to be wrong:

Mainly for the fishing and the fact that you sheeped RBD rather quickly while simultaneously questioning his conf. townness.

I pressure Empking based on his reaction to RBD's conf. town statement. Empking freaks out, OMGUS's, and gets super defensive. This is abnormal for Empking. Seeing as this is an abnormal response to minimal pressure with weak reasoning, being more akin to the "scum getting caught for the wrong reasons" reaction, Empking is scum.

[Aj The Epic]

How have I not addressed anything at all. Name a single point he's made that I haven't mentioned and addressed. Also claiming that my posts are saying that Bulba is 'wrong' is a wilful and undeniable misrepresentation of my claim that Bulba is 'wrong about everything'; Tier gives a dishonest impression with, just, enough similarity with the truth that it couldn't be done, but on purpose.

Essentially, you're tunneling and you're fine with that. There's more to this game to be looked at than tier. How about looking at Kenobi/Zekrom and giving your thoughts on both of their switch on Pache? Cxin and his 'reasoning'. You didn't even mention anything on the Pasche stretch and Tier is correct in pointing out that any action you've had outside of the bulba/emp argument has been incredibly limited.

[Aj The Epic]

*More to this game to be looking at than Bulba

[Empking]

How have I not addressed anything at all. Name a single point he's made that I haven't mentioned and addressed. Also claiming that my posts are saying that Bulba is 'wrong' is a wilful and undeniable misrepresentation of my claim that Bulba is 'wrong about everything'; Tier gives a dishonest impression with, just, enough similarity with the truth that it couldn't be done, but on purpose.

Essentially, you're tunneling and you're fine with that. There's more to this game to be looked at than tier. How about looking at Kenobi/Zekrom and giving your thoughts on both of their switch on Pache? Cxin and his 'reasoning'. You didn't even mention anything on the Pasche stretch and Tier is correct in pointing out that any action you've had outside of the bulba/emp argument has been incredibly limited.

People keep on paying attention to null silliness rather than the clear and deliberate actions. You can't find scum motivation is the accidents of Kenobi and Zekrom. Bulb's constant errors, Tier's constant dishonesty. You find scum in two places; trends and stress points. We haven't had any 'stress points', and none of those things you mentioned are scummy trends. The scummy trends are coming from Tier and Bulb, and that's where I'm keeping my attention. It's being distracted by easy-to-comment-on null acts that gives us the best chance at losing this game.

[TierShift]

Are you actually gonna explain your statements as to why I'm dishonest and bulba is wrong?

[Empking]

Are you actually gonna explain your statements as to why I'm dishonest and bulba is wrong?

You changed my 'wrong about everything' claim to a 'wrong' claim completely changing the meaning; being wrong isn't a scum tell, being wrong about everything is a biggie. Then when I mentioned it rather than honestly deny it you repeat it with. question mark. It's a general thing to me, but that's what sticks out to me as a biggie.

I'm not going to explain why every sentence Bulb has written is wrong.

[Paschendale]

After seeing 203 I decided to reread on empking and he's been hugely slipping under the radar. 9 of his 12 posts are about addressing a case bulba made on him. He doesn't actually address anything at all, he just keeps saying bulba is wrong and the case is addressed. On top of that, he votes bulba for forcing, which he further doesn't explain. No scumhunting, nothing.

Survival tactics+not hunting. Scum.

Two scumreads atm, cx and emp.

This is a legit concern that you need to address, Emp.

I do not, however, see the merits in the CX wagon.

How have I not addressed anything at all. Name a single point he's made that I haven't mentioned and addressed. Also claiming that my posts are saying that Bulba is 'wrong' is a wilful and undeniable misrepresentation of my claim that Bulba is 'wrong about everything'; Tier gives a dishonest impression with, just, enough similarity with the truth that it couldn't be done, but on purpose.

Forcing is related to his being wrong on everything. Also, the notion that I'm not scum hunting is absurd; I'm interacting with my top scum read, what's Tier been doing other than misrepresent?

What about your other scumreads? Don't you have any? And just interacting... that's not going to sell a wagon. You need an argument. I don't mean a fight, I mean a debate kind of argument. Who do you think is scum, who do you think is town, and why?

Now, im curious, how does not having reads make me scum?

Well, no, it mostly just makes you a lazy useless piece of shit. Which is incredibly anti-town, and so you might as well be scum.

This. Very much so. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

People keep on paying attention to null silliness rather than the clear and deliberate actions. You can't find scum motivation is the accidents of Kenobi and Zekrom. Bulb's constant errors, Tier's constant dishonesty. You find scum in two places; trends and stress points. We haven't had any 'stress points', and none of those things you mentioned are scummy trends. The scummy trends are coming from Tier and Bulb, and that's where I'm keeping my attention. It's being distracted by easy-to-comment-on null acts that gives us the best chance at losing this game.

Why don't you elaborate on those trends for us.

[Empking]

Trends are simple. They don't have much ups and downs. That's why they're trends. Bulb is wrong. About everything; that's why it's a trend. Tier is constantly disnhonest, he mentions Bulba in every-other-post and never gives a sentence read. That's what makes it a trend.

[Maxous]

Now, im curious, how does not having reads make me scum?

because it would suggest you are having difficulty faking them. you are being overly cautious and are hesitant to commit to reads.
two possible ways.

[Dry-fit]

dry fit, if you really want to know, read the damn game. maxous linked my games.

Well I skimmed your last game and you did have a similar style. But what I really wanted to get at was, how do you intend to catch scum in this game?

After seeing 203 I decided to reread on empking and he's been hugely slipping under the radar.

I don't think Emp's been under the radar. He took a very confrontational stance with the Bulba stuff, which is likely to draw attention, and it has. I'd say I'm much more of someone who's under the radar right now.

[Psyche]

Tonight.

[Kenobi]

I'm going to be V/LA for the next 3 or 4 days.