Open 535: Enemy of My Enemy

[Aegor]

10 hours left people. Happy to join a different wagon if one forms against a scummy person.

[bubbajack8]

Why not erniez? And a nl isn't *that* bad.

[beastcharizard]

VOTE: bubbajack8

Flash lynch go.

[Jordan_Downey]

VOTE: DoctorPepper

This is our biggest shared mafia scumread. I don't mind a NL, but this is also acceptable to us, and it is apparent that Aegor is not happening today.

Beast, bubba is not getting lynched today. Reread him from the beginning of the day if you are actually town from a neutral perspective. He feels like he's genuinely weighing the options. He's town.

[beastcharizard]

Deadline hit already. Maybe this will turn out for the best. I think they scum decided to lurk it out.

[DoctorPepper]

I disagree with an erneiz lynch and tomorrow I want a JD lynch.

[thenewearth]

Vote Count

Mindgamer (1) - beastcharizard
bubbajack8 (1) - beastcharizard
DoctorPepper (2) - Aegor, Jordan_Downey
beastcharizard (0) -
erneiz_hyde (2) - Mindgamer, bubbajack8
Aegor (1) -Jordan_Downey
Jordan_Downey (0) -

No Lynch (1) -erneiz_hyde

Not Voting - DoctorPepper,

4 people's voices are needed to lynch

(expired on 2014-01-12 21:30:00)

[thenewearth]

Unfortunately... You have not reached a decision and it has gone dark already

So I am forced to call a No Lynch

As always, deadline of night action in 2 days.

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(expired on 2014-01-15 20:05:00)

[thenewearth]

Mindgamer has been slain

He was:

Welcome,

Team 9

, you are a

Vanilla Townie.

Abilities:

Your weapon is your vote, you have no night actions.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

[thenewearth]

Sorry for that slight delay. Minor Internet connection problems.

Day 4 should start

Vote Count

bubbajack8 (0) -
DoctorPepper (0) -
beastcharizard (0) -
erneiz_hyde (0) -
Aegor (0) -
Jordan_Downey (0) -

Not Voting - bubbajack8, DoctorPepper, beastcharizard, erneiz_hyde, Aegor, Jordan_Downey

4 people's voices are needed to lynch

(expired on 2014-01-29 20:30:00)

[bubbajack8]

VOTE: Aegor

No reason to leave him alive now.

Scum's EH and Beast.

[Aegor]

VOTE: Aegor

No reason to leave him alive now.

Scum's EH and Beast.

No, you are wrong. The scum are EH and JD. I killed Mindgamer, and unless the scum happened to NK the same person, maf did not NK anyone. Both EH and JD made no posts on this site the entire "night."

I know it is an ethically grey justification, but I think it is true.

[bubbajack8]

I'm fine with lynching EH tomorrow.

[bubbajack8]

Also I don't see why they wouldn't NK.

[bubbajack8]

NK = No kill.

[Aegor]

Also I don't see why they wouldn't NK.

That is my point. It was not a choice: the two mafiosi were not online during the night.

[bubbajack8]

NK = No kill.

[Jordan_Downey]

Unvote now. This is MYLO, Aegor cannot die today. I'll be back to explain what I'm thinking and why Aegor is wrong in his conclusions in a while. I will take votes without proper consideration as a scumclaim.

[Jordan_Downey]

Okay, here's the deal. If we lynch Aegor tonight we go into nightphase with 3 and 2 and mafia shoots a townie for the victory. That means that Aegor cannot be the lynch today, he is off the table. On the nightkill:

Aegor, give your justification for the Mindgamer kill now, assuming you did actually kill him.

There were three possibilities as to what went down last night.

1. Aegor NK, Mafia kills MG. This makes sense.

2. Aegor kills MG, Mafia kills MG. This makes very little sense to me, because Aegor exhibited no suspicion of Mindgamer yesterday and wanted to hit scum at night.

3. Aegor kills MG, Mafia NK. This makes no sense. Mafia gains nothing from a NK today. Aegor's supposition that me and EH were somehow unable to submit a NK would be a pretty good case, but for the fact that I was onsite. I don't know if you understand a hydra, but my main account is Jingle, and I did in fact post on-site overnight.

The obvious answer here is that Aegor either killed the same target as mafia or No-killed and is attempting to set up a ML. Unfortunately, we cannot afford to lynch him today.

I'm still interested in a Dr. Pepper lynch, but this is MYLO and simply throwing down votes is a really bad idea.

[Aegor]

Aegor, give your justification for the Mindgamer kill now, assuming you did actually kill him.

I realized I had not submitted my NK last night and there were five hours left. I quickly looked through ISOs. Team 9 parked his vote on Bwburke early and did not change it, and Mindgamer was iffy the entire time as well. It seemed like a reasonable guess, which is really all I have.

There were three possibilities as to what went down last night.

2. Aegor kills MG, Mafia kills MG. This makes very little sense to me, because Aegor exhibited no suspicion of Mindgamer yesterday and wanted to hit scum at night.

This is one of the possibilities.

3. Aegor kills MG, Mafia NK.

I still find this more likely. Mafia should have NKed me and set up lylo tomorrow. Even if I killed one of the maf at night, there would still be one left and no more WW. It makes very little sense not to kill me.

I don't know if you understand a hydra, but my main account is Jingle, and I did in fact post on-site overnight.

I had forgotten you were a hydra.

The obvious answer here is that Aegor either killed the same target as mafia or No-killed and is attempting to set up a ML.

That makes very little sense. It is clearly to my advantage to aim for mafia. A ML today would end in a defeat for me anyway.

[Jordan_Downey]

If we ML it's 2v2v1 tonight and you still get a shot with a 50/50 chance of hitting scum. Assuming scum shoots town you're still able to win there. If scum shoots you, you're fucked, but there's no way you can play around that. Forgive me for thinking you want a ML.

I'm rather interested in DP's OMGUS in twilight. Please, my friend, explain your reasoning.

[bubbajack8]

Unvote now. This is MYLO, Aegor cannot die today. I'll be back to explain what I'm thinking and why Aegor is wrong in his conclusions in a while. I will take votes without proper consideration as a scumclaim.

3-2-1
For some reason I thought it was 6-2-1 earlier.

Aegor why wouldn't maf No kill again?

UNVOTE:

[Jordan_Downey]

Mafia gains nothing from a No-kill. They need to whittle down townies in order to win and had a shot at winning last night.

[bubbajack8]

So Aegor no killed, or it was same person target?

[Aegor]

So Aegor no killed, or it was same person target?

If maf killed, then the same person was targeted.