NY 170: Georgetown II (Game Over)

[Maestro]

I don't read that as calling for a NL, Garmr

[Huntress]

Vote Count 1.2

Garmr (3) - OhGodMyLife, emogirl123, Aegor,
Acidic_TACO (2) - emeraldemon, Garmr
emeraldemon (2) - Bulbazak, Tebow
Aegor (2) - Brian Skies, Acidic_TACO
Maenara (2) - Sotty7, Maestro
Brian Skies (1) - Chevre
Nobody Special (1) - WBOCampfire1104
Tebow (1) - The Goodfather

Not voting (5) - Albert B. Rampage, kabooooom, Maenara, Nobody Special, Slandaar


With nineteen players alive, it takes ten votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day One is Tuesday, 4th February 20.00 GMT, (in (expired on 2014-02-04 20:00:00)).

[Garmr]

I don't read that as calling for a NL, Garmr

The main point was he was using that to sneak a opportunistic vote under with out explaining himself. What do you think of his voting so far?


So everyone join the Aegor wagon or if you think I'm scum vote me let get things moving.

[emeraldemon]

I don't read that as calling for a NL, Garmr

The main point was he was using that to sneak a opportunistic vote under with out explaining himself. What do you think of his voting so far?


So everyone join the Aegor wagon or if you think I'm scum vote me let get things moving.

I think your vote is on acidic taco.

[Aegor]

Are you serious, Garmr? Your posts 27 and 55 bothered me (purely emotional reaction).

This a scummy post as a no lynch is a bad idea and you never point out reasoning why I you think I am scummy. This is opportunistic,omgussy and a nonsensical this where people should vote.

I never advocated for a NL. It is bad. And if people agree, then there is no reason to bother speculating about the number of scum groups, which is exactly what I said. My vote was not opportunistic (what opportunity), not OMGUSy (you were not voting me), and not nonsensical (what made it nonsense?).

The main point was he was using that to sneak a opportunistic vote under with out explaining himself. What do you think of his voting so far?

We are on page 6. This is a large game. What detailed explanation were you expecting?

So everyone join the Aegor wagon or if you think I'm scum vote me let get things moving.

You are not even ON my wagon. After all that, you are not even voting me?


I am happier than ever with my vote.

[Tebow]

The sample scum role PM also says 'You are a Mafia Goon' not 'You are a [TYPE] Mafia Goon.' It seems unlikely to me Huntress would deliberately reveal the exact size of the scumteam(s).

The sample PM didn't remove type but did remove an XXX to hide how many scum there are? I see!

The point being that you are speculating that there would be multiple scumteams based on there being exactly two sets of Xs, but that the sample PMs themselves do not indicate multiple scumteams, because that usually requires more info than just 'Mafia goon'- ie a name of a faction. So on the one hand, we have to believe the PMs are 100% accurate (because otherwise, the number of sets of Xs isn't a clue) but on the other, we have to believe that the faction names were redacted. That's a little weird. Not sure I buy color.

Asked what you were intending to achieve because, well, I wanted to know. Generate discussion is a somewhat disappointing answer.

[emogirl123]

I am happier than ever with my vote.

Why does it matter that he didn't vote you? It's irrelevant to what his role is. Seems awfully discrediting.

[Bulbazak]

Well, that's all I needed.

Unvote

Vote Garmr

Just wanted to make sure that my thoughts on a Garmr/Emo scum team were not unfounded.

[emogirl123]

VOTE: Bulbazak.

Weren't you a little shocked when you realized that non of your scum partners were PRs?

Yeh totally shocked I was even more shocked when I unlynchable godfather in vanilla only game.

He tried to make a joke in response to my statement where scum had no PRs. At the time, I suspected that he was not aware that this game was mountainous prior to my comment because of his awkward response.

Who said it was a vanilla only game?

Mod did

*quotes mod from 1st post*

Second post was made 10 minutes later, I suspect that he had to search where the game said it was vanilla only? The fact that he didn't use the word mountainous hinted to me that he didn't know what he was signing up for.

Didn't sign up for a mountingness game signed up for any random game only and got nabbed for this game when you said all your partners are vanilla.

Later he even admits that he wasn't aware that the game is mountainous until I commented on it.

This suggests to me that he is town.

Bulbazak, explain your bullshit please.

[Acidic_TACO]

I don't read that as calling for a NL, Garmr

The main point was he was using that to sneak a opportunistic vote under with out explaining himself. What do you think of his voting so far?


So everyone join the Aegor wagon or if you think I'm scum vote me let get things moving.

I think your vote is on acidic taco.

Can confirm

[Maestro]

Well, that's all I needed.

Unvote

Vote Garmr

Just wanted to make sure that my thoughts on a Garmr/Emo scum team were not unfounded.

Bulba the fuck are you on about

[emogirl123]

It's rather clear what he was suggesting. Garmr was a toxic wagon, he wanted to line up not one but two VT for lynch.

[Maestro]

shhh, quiet you - not talking to you
(also stop claiming VT, it's annoying)

[Sotty7]

Speculation isn't important, but the stance people take on it and their motivations for doing so are.

About a mountainous setup? No it's just noise to make people look like they are doing stuff. We can worry about multiball for example if there are two kills night one. There won't be, but can. Till then this is all pointless.

This a scummy post as a no lynch is a bad idea and you never point out reasoning why I you think I am scummy. This is opportunistic,omgussy and a nonsensical this where people should vote.

But he didn't say we should no lynch as he voted in his post.

The main point was he was using that to sneak a opportunistic vote under with out explaining himself. What do you think of his voting so far?

If that was the point why lead with the scandalous "he said no lynch!" cry?

If your post contains setup spec in this, a mountainous game, I'm probably not going to read it.

Garmr is probably town, at least I got strong town vibes from him in the confirmation stage. He seems to be all over the place right now and is seemingly trying to dictate the game ("Me or Aegor!") it's making him a tasty treat. I would like him to explain himself a little more but scum being this brazen, well I just can't see it.

[Bulbazak]

VOTE: Bulbazak.

I love the sound of chainsaw in the morning.

Well, that's all I needed.

Unvote

Vote Garmr

Just wanted to make sure that my thoughts on a Garmr/Emo scum team were not unfounded.

Bulba the fuck are you on about

A lot of the pregame Emo exchange didn't feel natural, leading me to the conclusion that there was some scum theatre going on. I didn't think all 3 were scum, just Emo and one of her attackers. I just didn't know which one. Garmr's posts have not been at the level I expected to see from him as town. Not only that, but he is focused on the popular wagons, as seen with the Aegor wagon (And let's not even get started with calling a 1v1 but not committing to it.). I actually agree that Garmr's push on Aegor is opportunistic and he's misrepped him several times, but I wanted to make sure about the connection I saw before I voted, and I still didn't want to let go of Emerald, since I was still trying to figure out his alignment (leaning town, btw). Then Emo hard defended Garmr from Aegor, which solidified the connection I had made in pregame (the whole dayvig thing was fake). And guess what happened? If you guessed she chainsawed some more and voted me after I voted Garmr, you just won a new car.

[Maestro]

IYO she's that much of a Newb to so obviously connect to her partner D1, out of RVS?

[Sotty7]

While I agree emo should have waited for Garmr to post himself (accused players defense is always best heard first before any defenders step in.) Calling chainsaw this early in the day/game is just terrible and shouldn't be done.

[Bulbazak]

IYO she's that much of a Newb to so obviously connect to her partner D1, out of RVS?

I don't think she saw herself as being obvious.

[Maestro]

not rly what I was asking but whatev

[emogirl123]

Garmr's posts have been awfully flaily and I was stopping further momentum from building when he was clearly a town read of mine. What response do you expect him to have? He has been discredited multiple times because of a misplaced vote. I am not interested in what Garmr has to say. He was designed to be a toxic wagon and Bulbazak sprung the trap.

[Bulbazak]

So you decided to cut off all discussion regarding his actions?

[emogirl123]

I don't care what he says, it is noise. I care why you are making associations of two unflipped players.

[Maestro]

Garmr's posts have been awfully flaily and I was stopping further momentum from building when he was clearly a town read of mine. What response do you expect him to have? He has been discredited multiple times because of a misplaced vote. I am not interested in what Garmr has to say. He was designed to be a toxic wagon and Bulbazak sprung the trap.

If his posts have been flaily why is such a big Townread...?
Why are you not interested in what a Townread has to say...?
Who "designed" him to be a "toxic" wagon......?

P-Edit: So you're Townreading somebody whose posts you consider noise. That's dumb.

[emogirl123]

I explained why already. He suggested a day vig as a trap which is awful. Then he showed that he didn't know this was a mountainous game. Then he admits that he didn't know this was a mountainous game. QT was open at the time, so seeing that all three of your scum mates are not PR, he goes and attempts to use a day vig as a trap? It was a horrible trap, but his other play doesn't show that he is capable of better. He now admits that he wasn't aware this game is mountainous.

[Sotty7]

I don't care what he says, it is noise. I care why you are making associations of two unflipped players.

No, game generated content by him, which is what his defense would have been, is never noise. I have town reads but that never means I don't care what they have to say, I always care cause reads should be fluid and flexible. maestro is right in this case, you cut off his discussion before he had a chance to put it out there. He can still come in and defend himself but now it's tainted.