NY 170: Georgetown II (Game Over)

[Chevre]

I think it will be extremely useful. There will be 10 people on the wagon whose cases for lynching you, plus OGML and others who didn't want to lynch you or just completely avoided talk about your wagon. While I know I can't orate it well, I do think you are the most scummy player right now, and if you and I do think you are being annoying, then that certainly isn't helping town.

[Huntress]

Vote Count 1.6

emogirl123 (8) - Maestro, Nobody Special, Bulbazak, Garmr, Brian Skies, Albert B. Rampage, Maenara, Chevre
Garmr (2) - OhGodMyLife, emeraldemon
Bulbazak (2) - emogirl123, Tebow
Aegor (1) - Acidic_TACO
Maenara (1) - Sotty7
Nobody Special (1) - WBOCampfire1104
Tebow (1) - The Goodfather
The Goodfather (1) - Slandaar
Albert B. Rampage (1) - Aegor

Not voting (1) - kabooooom


With nineteen players alive, it takes ten votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day One is Tuesday, 4th February 20.00 GMT, (in (expired on 2014-02-04 20:00:00)).

[emogirl123]

I can't defend myself against this nonsense. I have nothing more to say.

[Maestro]

Not liking the emogril wagon. I agree with OMGML: it is a lazy lynch.

And ABR isn't? Explain.

[The Goodfather]

Am i the only one that finds it super strange that this wagon has built so quickly on emogirl?? Especially at the end with chevre just jumping on for seemingly no reason other than the fact that emogirls death may make peoples alliances clearer... That is crap imo.

There are 19 players, with 10 on her wagon, we know that there have to be town on the wagon. The converse statement is also true: if 9 players don't vote for emogirl, and emogirl flips red, it does not imply that those 9 people are scum. I also find it unlikely that emogirl is scum, becasue I have never seen a mafia post over 25% of the threads total posts. So either emogirl is an incompetent scum who is completely unable to blend, or her wagon is being driven by scum. I think the latter is more likely

I realize the post count argument is subjective and based entirely on my experience, but i have never seen that many posts from scum this early in dp1.

[Maestro]

I have never seen a mafia post over 25% of the threads total posts

Dear God. You're a 2014. How many Mafia Games have you seen at all?

[The Goodfather]

I have never seen a mafia post over 25% of the threads total posts

Dear God. You're a 2014. How many Mafia Games have you seen at all?

I started last month on another site that has shorter phases. 24 hour days and nights. it makes the games go quicker. I am still adjusting to the longer phases here. I am playing in a few right now on this site, and 2 on another. I have seen 4 games through to the end winning all but one of them where i was an indie sk with a dk(the coolest role I've had bar none... although they killed my ass only 5 days in... actually i got mod-killed. It was a bit of bs cause I never role revealed. The entire mafia team came out on dp5 and basically outed me with them... now that i am saying this, it seems apparent that you probably don't give a shit... )

And theres no need to be an asshole about me being new to the game. Everyone's gotta start playing sometime. Nobody starts off playing as a skilled professional who knows every in and out of the game. If my assumption is wrong, then just tell me. No need to palm your face bro

[Albert B. Rampage]

You ain't seen nothing yet bro

[Aegor]

Not liking the emogril wagon. I agree with OMGML: it is a lazy lynch.

And ABR isn't? Explain.

ABR does not have 8 votes.

[Tebow]

Not liking the emogril wagon. I agree with OMGML: it is a lazy lynch.

And ABR isn't? Explain.

These things are so unalike that it hurts.

Also, Chevre's vote on the emogirl wagon is soooooo bad. It even sounds like Chevre know it's wrong in the course of making it - that old chestnut, the 'Well you've dominated the day to the point where lynching you will produce loads of information' argument absolving the voter of even having to commit to portraying confidence in a scumflip. This is a wagon built on misrepresentation and carried forward by lazy wagon-hopping.

[emogirl123]

This is a wagon built on misrepresentation and carried forward by lazy wagon-hopping.

The worst part of it all is not lynching me. It is the lazy town players on my wagon that would get completely wrecked one by one afterwards. Lynching me for information is a joke.

[emogirl123]

When Bulbazak flips scum, look towards Sotty and Maestro for answers. NS seems okay, Chevre and ABR doesn't. Chevre is worse than Maenara in magnitudes. Too bad you guys don't give two shits about my reads. Before I get lynched, make sure Brian Skies at least attempts a reason. Maestro had his chance to influence my wagon and he didn't. It's too late, even if he removes his vote after this point, I still associated him with Bulbazak regardless if he leads.

[kabooooom]

vote: emogirl

[kabooooom]

Btw its L-1 so no more votes please!

[emogirl123]

If momentum doesn't shift, and I really doubt it would, lynch within Bulbazak/Garmr for info tomorrow. Trying to figure out who is the most scummy leading my lynch is as null as things get. This is because I did my best to not appeal to anyone this game. My opinion is that Bulbazak is scum and Garmr is town. People defending my wagon are not clear, don't let them coast.

Please for fuck sakes, lynch Bulbazak.

He is so scum it's silly

.

[emogirl123]

Also, you're welcome for moving the game out of RVS. That is a speciality of mine.

[Bulbazak]

Yup. IE, trying to actually ascertain her alignment, rather than just deciding to try to paint her as scummy. If I can't see a reason a

reasonable

person acting in good faith (ie, town) would interpret a post in a certain way, that usually leaves three options: you're unreasonable, you're pursuing a personal vendetta, and you're scum. I don't like calling people stupid when there are alternative hypotheses, and I don't have any meta suggesting personal animosity.

You're one of those players who try to see the good in every player, believes innocent until proven guilty, and ends up doing very little as a result, aren't you?

Other players, please note Bulbazak baselessly asserting that his interpretation of her 'intent' is the same thing as her actual intent. Actually, I think they speak far more to the mindset that

I've

outlined.

Read back over her posts. The intent you outlined doesn't fit in with her actions.

Never seen town try to lay a 'trap' before?

Never seen scum flail before?

She admits to wanting to shut down discussion on him. She says it's to protect her townread, but when pressed, she couldn't give an adequate answer why this should be the case, since she admitted to ignoring most of Garmr's posts. Then when she was called out on defending Garmr, she backtracks and said that she was defending herself by defending Garmr, which is BS. So go ahead and criticize my interpretation of that one sentence. It still doesn't change her actions, which happen to back up that interpretation.

This is a hugely uncharitable interpretation of what she said and did.

It's an accurate interpretation. Get out of your fluffy clouds of sunshine and rainbows and join us down here in reality.

This would be valid, if

her having said that

was mutually accepted information. Since the argument is precisely about

whether that is a reasonable interpretation of what she said

, it's just crap. My argument isn't town say that. My argument is that Emogirl didn't say that, and you're deliberately twisting her words.

She did say that! I can't help it if you want to sit there in your own little world and imagine there aren't people who kick kittens just for fun, but she did freaking say that!

We're not lynching scum based on who is the most annoying.

Pray tell what are the criteria for lynching scum?

I see it, but I really can't believe you

actually asked

this.

Sometimes I just like poking things with sticks and seeing what happens.

Prediction: Sotty and emogirl are scumpals.

my prediction was that Sotty and Bulbazak are scumpals. More reasons to lynch him.

Where did the Sotty scumread come from?

I agree that I have been town telling awfully hard and in turn this makes me suspicious.

Why hasn't MS created a *twitch* emoticon yet?

I also find it unlikely that emogirl is scum, becasue I have never seen a mafia post over 25% of the threads total posts. So either emogirl is an incompetent scum who is completely unable to blend, or her wagon is being driven by scum. I think the latter is more likely

I realize the post count argument is subjective and based entirely on my experience, but i have never seen that many posts from scum this early in dp1.

See Nine Plus Plus - Varsoon
Fire Emblem: Awakening - Saki

[The Goodfather]

seriously kaboom... here is my impression of you:

"I'm voting emogirl.... for almost no reason other than everyone else is... and btw, no body else vote for her..."

seriously... wt fuck?

[emogirl123]

The longer you play, the more you realize that half the player base does exactly that. God it's easy being scum. I would be more annoyed than I am now if I were. I was genuinely helping out town this game, which I do as scum. To be lynched for that would be pretty silly.

[emogirl123]

If Maestro is town, he has no right to that ego. Take this as a scum read of him out of respect.

[Nobody Special]

Prediction: Sotty and emogirl are scumpals.

my prediction was that Sotty and Bulbazak are scumpals. More reasons to lynch him.

Where did the Sotty scumread come from?

I feel that Sotty is scum coaching emogirl.


Okay, enough. Time to get this over with.

unvote

Vote: emogirl

[emogirl123]

You were already on me.

[The Goodfather]

see ya emo girl. tbh i hope everyone is right that you are scum...

[emogirl123]

I'm not lynched yet.

[Nobody Special]

Yeah, I figured it wouldn't work. But I was hoping you'd get all emo and flail or something.


It was worth a shot.


P-Edit: although.... that reaction was worth something.