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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:59 am

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Fircoal wrote:
Patrick wrote:I'm the cop! Voting me is a terrible idea.
There is no cop.

Unvote: Sv
FOS: Patrick


That and your obvious scum with SV, but SV won't let me vote her. :(
FoS based on very obvious joke. Then again joking afterwards himself aswell.
ac1983fan wrote:ignoring that comment...
the best thing to do here, it seems, would either:
a. quicklynch, if we lynch a townie, he can vig kill whoever placed the final vote
b. discuss for at least 15 pages, then lynch.
I choose A if we lynch me cuz I really wanna be a vig for the first time evah. And I think I could make a good choise as the vigilante. The destiny of all of you would be on my hands! ;)
Incase the one quicklynched isn't me I support more discussion and lynching mafia godfather afterwards.

Patrick - Most likely town with a good amount of townish content.

Zindaras - Acfans lurking was kinda scummy but as he got replaced that doesn't really count. Zindy has been pushing for the lurker/non-commital/not-around lynches. Reasonable as doing to avoid discussion has been told to work as a scum strategy. However I highly disagree with the Twito=scum idea. I very obviously haven't been around.

IH - I think he could be Godfather who has been pushing for the lynch of his goon all game long, the goon being acfan/Zindy.

Fircoal - He is joking a lot himself so I found his FoS on Patrick based on an obvious joke a bit scummy. Been a bit non commital hasn't really formed his own suspicions. However his playstyle isn't really different from normal.

I stick to my vote on IH actually.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:06 am

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Ok that's fair enough I suppose but stay with us.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:32 am

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*hugs Twitty*

See? You can do it. You're really wrong (then again, you're scum, so who cares?), but you can still do it.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:30 pm

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vote:No replace
as long as Twito keeps posting I'm happy. = )
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:43 pm

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It's very nice that you are happy I'm gonna do my best to stay with you. I'm not gonna post everyday tho but there are many players only posting on weekends for example.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:07 pm

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Vote: No Replace
I'm still argeeing with the IH/ Zindy scum group.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:09 am

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Fircoal, if only one out of IH and Zindaras were scum, which do you think would be more likely and why?
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:20 am

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Twito will not be replaced. Clarification: I asked that not because of playstyle. I asked that because Twito said his access would not be stable, and I didn't want him to drag the game.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:30 pm

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Zindy, his reasons for accusing were scummy and inaccurate and Ac1983fan acted a bit scummy too.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:06 am

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Oh, I'm sure enough to move my vote atm.

unvote, vote:Fircoal


Looks to me he's just moving with popular opinion at the moment, especially with his last answer of Zindie. Twito and Patrick have at least made some kind of point, while he just says "I think so too".

and then Jumps on the Zindie suspicion, since I've also expressed suspicion of him.

I'm saying that Fircoal is some kind of scum.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:33 am

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Hmm. In my last post I asked him to say who he thought was scummier out of you and Zindaras. Whichever way he went on that, he would be following popular opinion to some extent.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:40 pm

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Oh... yeah.....

hmmm...

Still not moving it me thinks.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:00 pm

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I was away for the weekend.

Guestions for everyone:
1) Which is the mostlikely scumgroup?
2) Who alone is the most scummy person ignoring the group theories? You can even list all from scummiest to towniest but do it individually ignoring the group theorys.

1) IH/Zindy
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:54 am

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My feeling there is the same as yours Twito. I still see an IH/Zindaras pair, and nothing they've done has really changed my mind. After that it's Fircoal, who is pretty much following me around, though it doesn't seem that scummy in light of the fact he always seems to play that way. I'm currently thinking he's a townie being used as an easy target by the scum.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:38 am

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Patrick wrote:After that it's Fircoal, who is pretty much following me around, though it doesn't seem that scummy in light of the fact he always seems to play that way. I'm currently thinking he's a townie being used as an easy target by the scum.
Then we have four scum me thinks.....

Also, I'm going to go through the thread real quick like.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:02 am

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Acfan/Zindie wrote:ignoring that comment...
the best thing to do here, it seems, would either:
a. quicklynch, if we lynch a townie, he can vig kill whoever placed the final vote
b. discuss for at least 15 pages, then lynch.
Did anyone else notice this? I don't understand why it's been dismissed... we just kind of dropped it when everyone went lurkerishly.
Patrick post 89 wrote:I could see a Zindaras/IH group, with probably IH as the GF. The only worrying thing is that implies that my two allies are Twito and Fircoal.
Why, you never stated any reasoning?
Patrick wrote:One thing I didn't like much by acfan was post 49 which could have been a very crude attempt by noobscum to get us to get us to lynch some quickly.

IH voted him for this, then in post 58 made an almost comical attempt to link me to acfan, which may be because he knows acfan would show up scum (presumably goon). He continues to say in a joking manner that acfan is scum, later suggesting to Twito that an acfan/Fircoal pairing may exist.

Enter Zindybuns. Doesn't really mind what IH is doing, calls me town, says that the pairing is Fircoal/Twito. While his reasons make sense in a narrow way, he ignores the context (Twito is almost without internet access, Fircoal always spams up his games). The second he may not have known if he hasn't played with Fircoal, the first he did know. Later calls IH misguided, and pressed the attack on Fircoal and Twito, seeming to show less patience than he did in the last vengeful game where he was town.

Thus, I could see IH/Zindaras, with IH most likely being the GF. Of course, I'm not set on it, and we probably need Twito replacing. I don't have much read on Fircoal either. However, I prefer this theory to the theory that Twito/Fircoal are scum together.
I don't understand why you think this connects us, except for the Venge strategy. Zindy wasn't really being all that hasty either....
Fircoal wrote:Patrick makes a good point in Post 94. A Zindy/IH scum group would make sense, but I don't think there is enough evidence to vote because of it. Also, IH's thoughts on post 94, sounds scumish. What's wrong with throwing out ideas?
Why does it make sense to you? Throwing out ideas and not following through with them is scummy. Why? That way they can see how the town feels, and follow along with them. While I've been reading.... I'm getting a scummeh vibe from Patrick,

look at this.
Patrick wrote:You're pretty desperate there IH? I haven't set anything in stone, and it would be stupid to do so this early. However, I quite clearly stated that I believe Zindaras/IH is more likely than Twito/Fircoal. I believe it is the most likely pairing at this point. Yes, it's useful to see reactions too, but I'm quite clearly laying out my thoughts at this time.
Nothing is set in stone, as it would be stupid?
Patrick in response to post 101 wrote:But seriously IH, are you suggesting I've been more noncommital than anyone else? I've committed to my top 2 suspects and given reasons for my suspicions, and I've added more content than anyone else. What else exactly do you want me to commit to? This sounds like a desperate attempt to discredit your attacker.
and then in another post, he's committed to his top two suspects.
Patrick wrote:Show how I've been noncommital. I stated who my top suspects are. What else do you expect? The reason I made the flippant post about trying to pretend you're pro town is because you are acting in your open 4 manner when you were scum. You're looking for the smallest things you can nitpick on your attacker, hoping to confuse or distract people from the real scum.
Explain. That wasn't a small thing. If you think someone is not as scummy, and is more town,
your vote should not be on them

Fircoal post 114 wrote:I'm more on the IH/Zindy scum group idea.
After some heat on patrick, Fircoal comes up with this.....

He's repeated it about three times...

Ok, I think.... I have been wrong. Zindy is not scum. = )

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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:23 am

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IH wrote:Did anyone else notice this? I don't understand why it's been dismissed... we just kind of dropped it when everyone went lurkerishly.
It hasn't been dropped has it?
IH wrote:I don't understand why you think this connects us, except for the Venge strategy. Zindy wasn't really being all that hasty either....
I've explained several times the link I can see. You attack acfan/Zindaras. You make an attempt to link me to him that doesn't make sense. You then suggest that Fircoal may be linked to him. This seems to me a reasonable scum strategy if he is scum, trying to link other people to him because you know he would come up goon. The attempt to link me to him is what set the alarm bells off the most. Zindaras also doesn't have much to say about you, he goes after easier targets, calling you "misguided".

I love your attempts to discredit me IH. So transparent. I already explained to you how I vote did I not? I left my random vote on, as I often do, until I decide I want to vote for someone else. At that point, I wasn't comfortable putting someone at -1, so I didn't change. Simple really.
IH wrote:Why does it make sense to you? Throwing out ideas and not following through with them is scummy. Why? That way they can see how the town feels, and follow along with them. While I've been reading.... I'm getting a scummeh vibe from Patrick,
This is just more on the same pointless theme. I gave my top two suspects, again, what else do you think I should have committed to??
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:12 pm

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IH wrote:
Acfan/Zindie wrote:ignoring that comment...
the best thing to do here, it seems, would either:
a. quicklynch, if we lynch a townie, he can vig kill whoever placed the final vote
b. discuss for at least 15 pages, then lynch.
Did anyone else notice this? I don't understand why it's been dismissed... we just kind of dropped it when everyone went lurkerishly.
I mentioned it in top of this page..
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:03 pm

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Twito wrote:
Guestions for everyone:
1) Which is the mostlikely scumgroup?
2) Who alone is the most scummy person ignoring the group theories? You can even list all from scummiest to towniest but do it individually ignoring the group theorys.
1) IH/ Zindy

2) Zindy
IH wrote: Oh... yeah.....

hmmm...

Still not moving it me thinks.
I get scum vibes from this post.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:57 pm

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Vote Count!

IH: 1 (Twito)
Twito: 1 (Zindaras)
Fircoal: 1 (IH)

5 alive, 3 to lynch.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:11 pm

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IH wrote:
Acfan/Zindie wrote:ignoring that comment...
the best thing to do here, it seems, would either:
a. quicklynch, if we lynch a townie, he can vig kill whoever placed the final vote
b. discuss for at least 15 pages, then lynch.
Did anyone else notice this? I don't understand why it's been dismissed... we just kind of dropped it when everyone went lurkerishly.
Acfan was clearly a newb and had no previous experience with the setup.

1) Fircoal/Twito.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:37 am

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Vote: IH
(lynch-1). I can't imagine what he's saying is coming from IHtown.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:02 pm

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So... why did you wait til now to put your vote on?

= | Patrick's voting in this game is urking me... it doesn't seem natural.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:10 pm

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IH wrote:So... why did you wait til now to put your vote on?
(Shrug) I just reached a good level of certainty. Turned it over in my mind and decided to do it.
IH wrote:= | Patrick's voting in this game is urking me... it doesn't seem natural.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:20 pm

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Patrick wrote:I can't imagine what he's saying is coming from IHtown.
And this is?

After half the people check in without a comment on your comments?

Don't try to unsubstantiate how you've been voting with a comment that has nothing to do with it.
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