NY 170: Georgetown II (Game Over)

[Albert B. Rampage]

emo's wagon shouldn't be so difficult given how her posts are desperate and grasping, there's definitely some buddies pulling the strings here.

If that's the case, why aren't you voting Emo?

Because I want to lynch Slandaar first

[Albert B. Rampage]

I might be wrong about emo; it's really too early to be certain on Day 1. Slandaar stries me as more likely to be scum.

[emeraldemon]

Let's just take a quick snap.

Tebow calls out Nobody Special for voting Chevre in 465, then doesn't like Albert's vote (485). Yessire thinks the Chevre wagon is bad in general, argues with Tebow about it. There's something wierd about Tebow simultaneously pushing for Chevre lynch and being suspicious of people getting on the wagon. Bulbazak also doesn't like Albert's vote (494).

I can go into details about how your question are useless if you want. But it makes you look like a hypocrite, no?

Sure, when you clip out my conclusion and questions, it looks like I'm not contributing. But why would you do that?

I am no amazing scumhunter, but
(1) I don't think OGML's post about setting up for a Chevre mislynch was well founded, and I wanted to explain why
(2) the dissonance between Tebow's push for Chevre and his suspicion of the votes on the wagon seemed, well, dissonant, and I wanted to try to find out more.

If you think those thoughts are not my own and are sheeping someone else, point out where they've been said already, maybe I missed something.

Believe it or not I'm actually open to suggestions for better scumhunting, so if my questions are useless I'd like to know why. The only problem is if you are actually scum and leading me astray intentionally...

[Albert B. Rampage]

OK no.

Unvote, vote emeraldemon

Yes, he posts content and we like him, but we have to shoot this one before he becomes trouble.

[emeraldemon]

?

So Albert, you say "emo's wagon shouldn't be so difficult", but didn't she go up to L-3 almost immediately? What were you hoping for?

[Albert B. Rampage]

The momentum on it completely died and what are we left with?

[emeraldemon]

So are your scumreads related at all to that wagon failing? slandaar was never on any counterwagon (and as far as I know never even gave a read on emogirl at all). I did townread emogirl, but I don't think that's why you're voting me, is it?

[yessiree]

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Believe it or not I'm actually open to suggestions for better scumhunting, so if my questions are useless I'd like to know why. The only problem is if you are actually scum and leading me astray intentionally...

Sure, let's take a look:

@sotty7

The avatars are fine, I like the xkcd, it's just weird to skim through at first.
So early game it seemed like you had a strongish scumread on maenara, now that zdenek replaced in does that affect your read on that slot?

Asking about whether or not a replacement had affected someone's read on the slot is bad because, well.... Do you expect to hear the answer "no, this new guy plays exactly like the old guy"?

Asking for a yes/no question should be avoided if you can be asking for a how/why question instead.

@The Fonz

[1]Are you pushing for a Chevre lynch? [2]Are you trying to make sure you only get the right kind of votes?

[1] If it's not obvious to you at this point then you clearly haven't read the thread.
[2] Again, a yes/no question, I don't see its purpose either.

@bulbazak

What is your read on Chevre? Are you against the wagon?

Looks like you already knew the answer?

611: Zdenek "Bulbazak and Yessiree?"

@Chevre

Slandaar says your vote is just "lets lynch a lurker", do you agree? Do you have more to it than that?

This is not as bad, but it can be worded better to pry for a more definitive answer.

[Albert B. Rampage]

YS, why are you voting for OGML?

[Zdenek]

Albert B. Rampage
Nobody Special
kabooooom
The Goodfather
Brian Skies
Chevre
SCUM

Do you have any specific reasons for considering these players scummy? Except for Chevre, since you already discussed that.

Why did you cut the list off at ABR?

[Zdenek]

Vote: emeraldemon

[Brian Skies]

Reading Up

[Sotty7]

So early game it seemed like you had a strongish scumread on maenara, now that zdenek replaced in does that affect your read on that slot?

Of course. The Maenara read was a strong gut kick but when a player slot starts actually posting (good) content that read is going to change. Not 100% out of the woods but zdenek is a big upgrade there so far.

Is there any reason you posted a scum/town list without being prompted to?

@Sotty Why don't you read any large game I'm in and see if you buy it or not.

Fair enough. When I get some spare time.

Nothing scummy about OGML, in fact, I happen to support all of his votes.

This.

I read Chreve's scum reads and they roughly line up with mine so it makes me more willing to see him as town. I really hate any kind of PBPA so I skipped his page by page run down but I'm feeling generally better with him. Most of what I read feels earnest enough.

I don't want any lynching for a while (on anyone) as I am conducting some very valuable investigations. I half oppose half don't care about the chevre wagon; it seems very meh to me.

How's this coming?

Vote: Slandaar

ABR, you should come back this way, I'm not sold on emeraldemon being anything more than a little bit out of his depth.

[Zdenek]

Did you look at emeraldemon's completed game?

[Zdenek]

OGML, how would you describe your past experiences playing with Sotty and how she tends to relate with you?

[Zdenek]

All my reads are currently like that. To me it makes perfect sense but I doubt anyone else will get anything out of it.

Knowing what you're thinking would be helpful to me.

[Aegor]

VOTE: Slandaar

emeraldemon is a really bad D1 lynch. Slandaar's posts consist of naked votes, fluff, setup speculation, and general badness. He is absolutely useless and this is mountainous so we are in no danger of lynching a PR. He is a great lynch for today.

I do NOT want a deadline wagon. We have 4.5 days left; I recommend that we get our lynch in at least 2 days before deadline. Last-minute swings are annoying, reveal little info, and are very easily manipulated.

[Zdenek]

What are your reads on emogirl and emeraldemon?

[Aegor]

I was never on the emogirl wagon because I never thought she was scum. I do like that she is posting so that we can get other players' input.

I am really not getting the case on emeraldemon. In fact, I see no reason whatsoever to believe he is scum. Even if he were scummy, there is no way he could compare to Slandaar or some of the other players. And at least he is posting. Let us drop the deadweight ASAP please, especially if that deadweight is emitting funky vibes.

[Zdenek]

What?

Post 580 is very good.

Half of 580 is a case on ed.

[Zdenek]

Frankly it looks like 580 was just buddying with me over something that you now apparently disagree with.

[Aegor]

The The Goodfather case was good. And even if I disagree with the ed lynch, your post included links to posts and actual reasoning.

[Zdenek]

Why do you disagree with the ed case?

[Zdenek]

Actually,

Vote: Aegor

No one reads a post, thinks that half of it is complete bs and proceeds to call it good.

[Aegor]

Why do you disagree with the ed case?

Because I simply did not find the things you mentioned scummy. I have not gotten scummy vibes, and I have done/would do all of the things ed did as town. Even in combination, I am just not feeling it.