Open 548-WiFom City: The Invasion (Over)

[Profont]

FoS on Profont.

"This coming from MTD" regarding the creativity is repeating what Aisa said, and sheeping Hoopla also seems to follow what others have said.

Not voting yet because wanna discuss with the dog

(and Sakura wagon is too good to leave)

~Wis

Did you really have to attack this before Hoopla responded?

Unless you're counting both heads of the Beast hydra, I'm fairly certain only one person pressured Hoopla before me. Why did you say "others"?

~Fixed.

[Profont]

Nhh, sorry. I'm still getting used to this site's formatting.
-font

[Rottweiler]

My point was that your Hoopla vote was also sheeping what someone other did, just like the creativity comment. I felt you were just being opportunistic there, thinking that Hoopla is pushable because of Dragons pushing her.

~Wis

[Rottweiler]

Doesn't help that the reasoning you came up with afterwards is terrible.

~Wis

[Profont]

Dragon was attacking Hoopla for an unexplained vote. I attacked her for a post that felt wrong. There's a difference. I don't think the reasoning is terrible. Sure, it's not the strongest thing ever, but then, I didn't expect to find anything truly scummy coming out of RVS.

[notscience]

I'm townreading the puppy so far.

This is good.

[Titus]

Votecount 1.02

[L-3] Sakura Hana - Rottweiler, notscience, Shockwave Rider, Hoopla
[L-6] Rottweiler - Albert R. Rampage
[L-5] notscience - iamausername, Sakura Hana,
[L-6] MTD - Aisa
[L-6] Dragon Alliance - MTD
[L-6] Hoopla - Dragon Alliance, Profont

Not voting: Aronis

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is Wednesday, March 5, 2014 at 8:45 AM PST ((expired on 2014-03-05 08:45:00)).

Sakura Hana is v/la from today until Tuesday.

Zekrom25 head of Dragon Alliance is v/la until further notice.

Anyone who needs formatting fixed, feel free to ask.
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A few more arrive to the party and things start to get interesting. What will happen now with our intrepid group?

[MTD]

Where is Aronis btw?

[Aisa]

FoS on Profont.

"This coming from MTD" regarding the creativity is repeating what Aisa said, and sheeping Hoopla also seems to follow what others have said.

Not voting yet because wanna discuss with the dog

(and Sakura wagon is too good to leave)

~Wis

At least you have a reason to vote Profont. Your vote on Sakura is totally random.
Unvotes exist, so if your other hydra head disagrees, he can just unvote.
Why isn't your vote on Profont?
VOTE: Rottweiler

[Rottweiler]

I dislike when hydra heads are not in agreement and vote/unvote separately. I'm not going to do it unless I'm like 100% confident someone is scum.

Do you feel my not voting is a scumtell?

~Wis

[Rottweiler]

FoS on Profont.

"This coming from MTD" regarding the creativity is repeating what Aisa said, and sheeping Hoopla also seems to follow what others have said.

Not voting yet because wanna discuss with the dog

(and Sakura wagon is too good to leave)

~Wis

At least you have a reason to vote Profont. Your vote on Sakura is totally random.
Unvotes exist, so if your other hydra head disagrees, he can just unvote.
Why isn't your vote on Profont?
VOTE: Rottweiler

A vote on Sakura is never totally random.

~dog

[notscience]

A vote on Sakura is never totally random

lol'd

[Aisa]

It could be a scumtell. Needing to discuss a vote so early in the game doesn't make sense for town. But as scum, you don't want to jump on the first viable wagon, or maybe voting a person may be later seen as bussing, so you need to try to plan ahead.
But your reasoning makes sense.

Pedit:
Because town should give reason for everything they do especially voting. Until Hoopla gives a good explanation I don't want our vote to change.

-Beast

A good explanation? The only explanation I see is "It was an RVS vote".

[Dragon Alliance]

Because town should give reason for everything they do especially voting

What town should do is not what town do. Basically you're saying anti-town = scum. Find better reasons.

Do you agree with Profont's reasons on why Hoopla is scum?

~Wis

Well anti-town is all I have right now so it is what I am going with. I think it is a little bit of a stretch. Them saying Serious Vote bugged me though. That is along the same thing as not giving a reason but in one game someone told me saying Serious Vote was getting people out of RVS so I am trying to not judge people who do it.

Sakura's was the only wagon that was forming so that is the only wagon to get on. They made it seems like we hadn't voted yet. Also, why are you hard defending Hoopla right now? You don't even let them reply to posts made towards them but rather you answer for them.

If anything what you are doing is anti-town. Let people answer and defend themselves. Unless you are sure Hoopla is town then please explain the logic of it because I clearly don't see it.


Pedit:
Because town should give reason for everything they do especially voting. Until Hoopla gives a good explanation I don't want our vote to change.

-Beast

I guess this is directed at me?

Ok, I didn't understand it that way, I thought the appeal included making a new wagon, also note that it was originally an "or" statement, the other possibility being to make observations, so really, you jumping on that...

I am not "hard defending" her but as I said I haven't seen anything scummy on her yet.
Please, show me the logic of her being scum, because I clearly don't see it.
I did

comment

on one of 3 questions you directed at her. I did not answer it for her, I did not say anything about the other two. What are you getting at?

Yes it was. I will try making sure I address my posts from now on so that it is easier to understand who I am talking to.

A naked vote is not town. not town = scum. That is all I have at this time. Wisdom called me out on it but this is what I have and am going to go with. Now, how am I scum?


Pedit:
A naked vote in RVS isn't RVS to me, it is opportunistic.

-Beast

[Rottweiler]

@Aisa
Do you think that if I wanted to plan ahead, I would announce so inthread?

Also, don't you think you are making generalizations about how hydras work? There are hydras who don't even make posts before discussing, and there are hydras with heads who post/vote separately and only discuss once in a while. Saying that "needing to discuss doesn't make sense for town" is assuming that all hydras work the same way and no hydras will ever want to discuss, which is wrong.

~Wis

[MTD]

A naked vote in RVS isn't RVS to me, it is opportunistic.

We do not agree there then, to me a naked vote in RVS is either an RVS vote or an attempt to get out of RVS, but not opportunistic as scum does not gain anything from that vote.

[Rottweiler]

someone told me saying Serious Vote was getting people out of RVS

neh.

Saying

"serious vote" is just an attempt to show "look, I wanna exit RVS".
What Hoopla did, hopping on the Sakura wagon, with the very naked vote that you find "not town", is how you actually get people out of RVS. It provokes reactions.

Actions speak louder than words.

A naked vote in RVS isn't RVS to me, it is opportunistic.

Do you disagree that it could be used to provoke reactions, like it actually did?

~Wis

[MTD]

Yes it was. I will try making sure I address my posts from now on so that it is easier to understand who I am talking to.

A naked vote is not town. not town = scum. That is all I have at this time. Wisdom called me out on it but this is what I have and am going to go with. Now, how am I scum?

See above post.
You look scummy for your reaction to Hoopla's attempt to get you playing, getting defensive when there was no attack there.
But yeah, this isn't strong, but my strongest atmo.

[Aisa]

@Rottweiler: No, and in fact you didn't, you said you needed to discuss with the other head, which is more generic and allows more room for interpretation than planning ahead.

And I actually said "Needing to discuss

a vote so early in the game

doesn't make sense for town." I'm not saying that discussing in general is a thing only scum does. You're making it sound way more extreme.
My generalization doesn't hold true for you? Fine, just point it out, I'm not going to lynch you based on a single piece of evidence.

[Rottweiler]

So you're basically taking your "accusation" back?

Why are you not commenting on anything else? Such as profont's posts?

~Wis

[Rottweiler]

@Rottweiler: No, and in fact you didn't, you said you needed to discuss with the other head, which is more generic and allows more room for interpretation than planning ahead.

And I actually said "Needing to discuss

a vote so early in the game

doesn't make sense for town." I'm not saying that discussing in general is a thing only scum does. You're making it sound way more extreme.
My generalization doesn't hold true for you? Fine, just point it out, I'm not going to lynch you based on a single piece of evidence.

Didnt you pretty much vote us over a single piece of evidence?

Confused

Woof
~dog

[MTD]

So you're basically taking your "accusation" back?

Why are you not commenting on anything else? Such as profont's posts?

~Wis

This @ me or Aisa?

[Rottweiler]

it was @Aisa

~Wis

[Dragon Alliance]

@Rott
Yes Hoopla's vote did get a reaction out of me, and it is very possible that was the purpose of it. I hadn't thought of it that way.

@MTD:
Lets just agree to disagree then. Also, that could be a way to distance yourself from a scum mate.

Also, i will see if I can't get my other head to talk some.
-Beast

[Titus]

bump for vc