Mini 1536 - Silph Co. Reverse Mafia (Game Over)

[Whiskers]

Also pasch, as TS said,

It's taking the theory that needs the least assumptions. A scum tracker is quite a huge assumption, while a town tracker is not.

You can confirm yourself. Can't you? If you'd like, you can track me tonight-- but I'll leave that up to you.

[Paschendale]

See, this is why I like playing with you, Whiskers.

One thing, though. If you do a full claim, and your win con doesn't exclude town from winning, we won't lynch you and will treat you as just a member of the town. If, however, you don't, then we have to assume that you winning makes us lose, and we'll have to lynch you. Actually, I don't so much care about your abilities, I care about your allegiance. What's your win con?

[Cheery Dog]

I should be voting cheery.

unvote, vote: Cheery Dog

he's suggesting that Pasch is not a tracker because it is well known(apparently) that RBD wouldn't shoot with a town vig role - even though RBD specifically said he would be confirm-able on D2 - ergo Pasch is lying about the result. (along with lying about Cxinlee because Cx basically claimed vanilla )
or else Pasch is a scum tracker for reasons. Those reasons being a 'no kill gambit' and keeping his mislynch options open by attacking Tiershift over defending newbies

You keep going on about him claiming taker, it makes no difference, he is still scum.
My major reasons are still what they were when I first voted him yesterday in with the anti-newbie defend stuff.

[TierShift]

I've actually come all the way around to suspecting that maybe Tiershift is just sort of a crap player-- by which I mean, he's a townie, a vanilla townie. He's trying really fucking hard for things to make sense, and they just don't, because he doesn't have all of the information; the information of the informed minority. So he's grasping at straws, and he's doing it very obviously and clumsily, jumping from one theory to the next, closest theory that makes sense. And yes, it all looks very bad and scummy and clumsy and bad. But that's because he's a shitty player-- by which I mean a vanilla townie-- and we really can't hold it against him. Can we?

Uh, thanks, I guess?

But you're mostly right, my play looks shitty as town. It must be an odd type of argument for me to try and use that to attack someone with, but bear with me.

The only other player here to know that my town game is like this (clumsy) is bulba. Yet he scumreads me for a minor thing (drunkposting in twilight). He knows I'm like this as town but yet he sees an easy target. It's just wrong.

Will you all please tell me why you're not even considering bulba for today's lynch?

[Bulbazak]

The only other player here to know that my town game is like this (clumsy) is bulba. Yet he scumreads me for a minor thing (drunkposting in twilight). He knows I'm like this as town but yet he sees an easy target. It's just wrong.

It wasn't the posting. It was the action. You were preparing yourself to use Empking's wagon as a means to lynch more people when we hadn't even seen the flip. That's what made me rethink my read on you. You got impatient and tipped your hand.

[TierShift]

Nah. You know better.

[Maxous]

I saw your posturing in twilight. I didn't like it.

Eh, I was inebriated and just complimenting whiskers on hammering emp and not me, really.

Bulb - the explanation for the 'posturing to attack Whiskers' thing is here, he wasn't attacking Whiskers during the hammer.

[Maxous]

My major reasons are still what they were when I first voted him yesterday in with the anti-newbie defend stuff.

you said you ignored empking because he was practically impossible to get a read on him along with the other players who are'nt posting much.
what's your reason for ignoring talking about tiershift today?

[Cheery Dog]

My major reasons are still what they were when I first voted him yesterday in with the anti-newbie defend stuff.

you said you ignored empking because he was practically impossible to get a read on him along with the other players who are'nt posting much.
what's your reason for ignoring talking about tiershift today?

I'm not? I'm not going to reply to every post.

[Whiskers]

My major reasons are still what they were when I first voted him yesterday in with the anti-newbie defend stuff.

you said you ignored empking because he was practically impossible to get a read on him along with the other players who are'nt posting much.
what's your reason for ignoring talking about tiershift today?

I'm not? I'm not going to reply to every post.

What is your opinion on TierShift, then? The last time you talked

about

him (rather than merely

to

him, about something else) was yesterDay-- in the same post that said "emp is hard to read!"-- and there you just said "whoa, idk about TierShift! But let's lynch him anyway."

[Cheery Dog]

Oh right, lost posts.

I have Tiershift has town as I can't see him being scum with Pasch as nobody would bother with a tunnelbus this long. On his own I understand why people have him as scum and I'd probably agree except for that I'm this convinced Pasch is scum.

[TierShift]

I find the certainty and naivity with which max defends me disconcerting.

Max, why aren't you voting bulba anymore?

[Maxous]

if you're tired of it, you are welcome to start obv-town posting.

I've explained why i'm voting CD and a couple of posts also get lost in the crash.
tl;dr: I dont like his tunnel on Pasch and how obtuse/vague the rest of his reads are.

[TierShift]

Already doing so, it's just no one wants to get rid of their shitty deathtunnels on me
Honestly, everyone who is on my wagon isn't trying to figure out the game except for whiskers....

And max, what do you think of bulba now? Would you wanna lynch him?

[Maxous]

he's an acceptable lynch alrite

[Bulbazak]

I saw your posturing in twilight. I didn't like it.

Eh, I was inebriated and just complimenting whiskers on hammering emp and not me, really.

Bulb - the explanation for the 'posturing to attack Whiskers' thing is here, he wasn't attacking Whiskers during the hammer.

I still don't see how "Emp better be scum." is not a threat. Nobody has bothered addressing this. And if we're going to start taking "I was drunkposting." as an excuse, perhaps I should start drinking more when I'm scum, that way when I'm cornered I can say "I was only drunkposting. Lol.".

Honestly, everyone who is on my wagon isn't trying to figure out the game except for whiskers....

That is a lie. I've explained why I think you are scum. I showed evidence of why I think you are scum. Not only that, but I've been trying to figure out what we are dealing with in regards to both scum and 3rd party. But suddenly, everybody who is voting you is suddenly not trying to figure out the game? Bull crap!

[Paschendale]

Max is starting to make sense to me about Cheery. Cheery's arguments are very tunnel-y and there's a great deal of spinning facts to match the predetermined conclusion.

[Maxous]

if you're tired of it, you are welcome to start obv-town posting.

Already doing so, it's just no one wants to get rid of their shitty deathtunnels on me

I find the certainty and naivity with which max defends me disconcerting.

maybe i've been wrong about you after all

[TierShift]

But suddenly, everybody who is voting you is suddenly not trying to figure out the game? Bull crap!

Okay maybe just aj and pasch up to just now.

[Bulbazak]

Keep backpedaling scum.

[TierShift]

That's everyone minus you and whiskers tho <3

[Bulbazak]

So you don't think Whiskers is 3rd party?

[TierShift]

Uh, what does that have to do with the previous statement? But no, whiskers probably isn't third party.

[Bulbazak]

But no, whiskers probably isn't third party.

Why not?

[TierShift]

Because third party don't just claim?
Plus, if there's a SK like dry-fit's story seems to suggest, it would be weird to have another third party role.
I'm not used to playing mini themes, but I can't remember ever having seen two third party roles in a normal-ish mini theme.