The Reckoning III (Math is Hard) Holy crap, perfect town win

[Axxle]

VOTE: UT
If we lynch scum today it's a good thing, right?

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

Mina here.

My paranoia over Ythan right now actually has more to do with his play being horrendous (both his activity/stances and the way he's handling the not-really-but-possibly-a-1v1) than his claim (which, on balance, is more likely to come from town). Ythan, flavour for why you're a day+night vig?

By the way:

Ythan I don't think can be scum unless there's either an

unlimited

town vigilante or a shitload of other town power out there.

There's a reason I specified "unlimited" here. And you can tell we're wary of Ythan from our later interactions with him.

Hey, Fate, the way you're treating us here looks a shitload like your ridiculous stance on Tierce in Scummies Invitational, FYI. Also, this might be the least of my problems with you, but when I asked about your reasons for suspecting us here, it's because I wanted to read

you

and see what you'd try to justify it with. (It's not like we'll need to defend ourselves much for the rest of this game.)

[Axxle]

Waffles, please stop doubting Ythan. That makes me want to vote you that much more and I really don't want to be that stupid. Why would he counter claim you as scum. Please let me know any possible scenario he'd do that.

[InflatablePie]

Axxle has a point (woah). Axxle: why UT over Nuwen?

I'm not 180ing on anything? The names I'm listing as scum reads are possible lynches today, not a composite scum team. Pie/Eagle are the only not-bus lynches I'd consider for reasons not related to ActionDan, lower priority behavioral stuff.

a) hi, I'm Pie, you know, that guy you knew once, you could talk to me

not

as if you're talking to someone else.
b) no. you don't get to say AD'S SCUMTEAM PILED ON HIM LAST MINUTE after giving two other scumreads that were both

not

on the wagon and then still try to stand your ground there. nope nope nope.

[InflatablePie]

"both not on the wagon" = "off the wagon"

means the same thing I'm just tired

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

Waffles, please stop doubting Ythan. That makes me want to vote you that much more and I really don't want to be that stupid. Why would he counter claim you as scum. Please let me know any possible scenario he'd do that.

How does you "wanting to vote us that much more" and "not wanting to be that stupid" really coexist?

And I mean I'm one of the most contradictory people, and I'm shaking my head going agaduhagaduh

First you need to ask yourself, in what possible realm do we come out at the start of day going "We vigged Triforce" as scum. And then draw your stretch out from there. Why wouldn't he counterclaim us as scum, who has already proved a dayvig? We're someone who have already indicated a hide ability, which means we have a really good chance of delivering up scum tomorrow. You're saying there's absolutely no chance scum would want to shut that down?

You're also saying we can't be sceptical about someone having the same power we have? Like, we're not even voting for Ythan. Mina thinks power-wise he's probably town, while I'm by play and what I know of power going he might be scum. We're looking at all the possibilities, why wouldn't you want us to?

[Axxle]

First you need to ask yourself, in what possible realm do we come out at the start of day going "We vigged Triforce" as scum

If you killed them as secondary scum. Either a second scumteam or an SK. I mean I'd rather lynch whoever killed the person Poro protected but I don't really feel like finding that person.

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

...I don't know how to respond to that kind of laziness, but it Nuwen's world that's a town tell so congrats!

[Axxle]

Like, we're not even voting for Ythan.

You're really going to say this. Seriously. You voted for them right out of the gate after he said the littlest thing doubting you and you're going to say you're not voting for him at this moment.

I haven't played with you Tammy, but from your behavior in this single game I think you'd be bold enough to do pretty much anything.

[Ythan]

Mina here.

My paranoia over Ythan right now actually has more to do with his play being horrendous (both his activity/stances and the way he's handling the not-really-but-possibly-a-1v1) than his claim (which, on balance, is more likely to come from town). Ythan, flavour for why you're a day+night vig?

By the way:

Ythan I don't think can be scum unless there's either an

unlimited

town vigilante or a shitload of other town power out there.

There's a reason I specified "unlimited" here. And you can tell we're wary of Ythan from our later interactions with him.

Hey, Fate, the way you're treating us here looks a shitload like your ridiculous stance on Tierce in Scummies Invitational, FYI. Also, this might be the least of my problems with you, but when I asked about your reasons for suspecting us here, it's because I wanted to read

you

and see what you'd try to justify it with. (It's not like we'll need to defend ourselves much for the rest of this game.)

My play is fine and you're upset that I've claimed the same kill as you. Don't be a brat about it.

[Axxle]

We're someone who have already indicated a hide ability

You claimed that. And really. In what scenario would we be able to verify anything. If you *die*. and in that case it doesn't fucking matter what you are. You picked a role that seems on the surface to be easily verifiable, but in reality is not.

[pirate mollie]

since when does tammy spell skeptical "sceptical"

LIKE THAT SOUNDS LIKE MINA

[Axxle]

VOTE: Waffles
Join me PM~!

[Axxle]

why UT over Nuwen?

Because I can't read Nuwen for shit.

[Ythan]

"Look at this thing I did I'm confirmed town."

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

Like, we're not even voting for Ythan.

You're really going to say this. Seriously. You voted for them right out of the gate after he said the littlest thing doubting you and you're going to say you're not voting for him at this moment.

I haven't played with you Tammy, but from your behavior in this single game I think you'd be bold enough to do pretty much anything.

... and then unvoted him like 10 seconds later. He said he killed triforce after already killing someone during the day. If you can't see my immediate reaction being wtf you're lying, I don't know what to tell you. I'm still not sure but practically everyone else is like if it walks like town duck and it quacks like a town duck then it's a town duck let's not even question the weirdness at all.

but thank you *hearts and flowers and gummy bears and honey bears like honey right?* I'm actually not bold and really conservative, but thank you, I appreciate you thinking I could just do pretty much anything. That means a lot.

[Ythan]

No shooting deathnote in the face makes you confirmed town.

[Ythan]

You're also saying we can't be sceptical about someone having the same power we have?

This makes literal nonsense and not just waffley nonsense.

[Axxle]

No shooting deathnote in the face makes you confirmed town.

No ones doubting that except for Waffles.

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

We're someone who have already indicated a hide ability

You claimed that. And really. In what scenario would we be able to verify anything. If you *die*. and in that case it doesn't fucking matter what you are. You picked a role that seems on the surface to be easily verifiable, but in reality is not.

So, if we die tomorrow night, you're just going to discount the code we leave behind?

[Cheery Dog]

We're someone who have already indicated a hide ability

You claimed that. And really. In what scenario would we be able to verify anything. If you *die*. and in that case it doesn't fucking matter what you are. You picked a role that seems on the surface to be easily verifiable, but in reality is not.

Then we find out what it's meant to have meant from themselves.

Unless you're going with scum is going to attempt to win by claiming roles that keep them alive one day at a time like Fate's scumread are saying.

[Ythan]

If you can't see my immediate reaction being wtf you're lying, I don't know what to tell you

"Rope, please."

VOTE: Sir Waffles Wafflington

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

OH MY GODS IF YTHAN COMES BACK SCUM I WILL LITERALLY LAUGH IN EVERYONE'S FACES. EVERYONES.

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

since when does tammy spell skeptical "sceptical"

LIKE THAT SOUNDS LIKE MINA

I'm pretty sure I told you to stop interacting with me or talking about me thank you.

[Ythan]

We're someone who have already indicated a hide ability

You claimed that. And really. In what scenario would we be able to verify anything. If you *die*. and in that case it doesn't fucking matter what you are. You picked a role that seems on the surface to be easily verifiable, but in reality is not.

So, if we die tomorrow night, you're just going to discount the code we leave behind?

This is just bad sportsmanship btw and I'm in a better position than other townies to point it out.