NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[Sakura Hana]

however you reminded me tho, SSK fake claimed Doc without fear of a CC, there's most likely a scum doc still alive to counter the vig, I forgot about that.

[goodmorning]

Well.

Vote: Casso

I believe that's also L-1.

[Ms Marangal]

dodge

[Sakura Hana]

Oh dear, it seems the hammer is on me.

[Sakura Hana]

Hey pieguy, both of your scumreads are at L-1 what does that tell you.

[Empire]

Day 8, Votecount 12

Casso the King of Seals (3)

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pieguyn, Prophylaxis, goodmorning

Prophylaxis (3)

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Casso the King of Seals, Ms Marangal, KoreanBBQ

KoreanBBQ (1)

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Sakura Hana

Not Voting (0)

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N/A

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch! It is now Day 8! Deadline is on March 24th at 11:35 AM EST or in (expired on 2014-03-24 11:34:56).

Mod Notes

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goodmorning is V/LA until April 1st.

[Casso the King of Seals]

remember this wagon from IN:

no vc last night on account of i was drunk

Votecount 1.8

[3]

MafiaSSK

(

zMuffinMan

,

BROseidon

,

Psychlone

)
[2]

BROseidon

(

thenewearth

,

mastin2

)
[2]

pieguyn

(

Varsoon

,

Mac

)
[2]

thenewearth

(

pieguyn

,

thezmon221

)
[1]

Morph the Cat

(

waynegg

)

[3] Not Voting (

MafiaSSK

,

Morph the Cat

,

Ghostly Penguin

)

With 13 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-14 13:00:00)

Nacho and zmuffin were both scum and they all piled on this wagon to manipulate the VCA. so that wagon in no way implies Casso/Proph team is impossible and we shouldn't discount the possibility justbc of that

That was muffin and I trolling in a game because rolling scum partners together twice back to back was absolutely ridiculous, scumteam was stacked, and so we trolled the whole time. Third time being partners back to back would probably involve blacklists and in thread duets, not the same strategy as the game we just got out of.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Subject: Micro 258: Pick & Ban (Game Over!)

town
3. DoctorPepper
4. Hanasawa Neonizer
6. pieguyn
7. Sakura
8. HeyArnold (Bert + fuzzybutternut)
9. 50 Shades of Purple (Nachomamma8 + pirate mollie)

null-town
2. morph the cat (fferyllt + Cabd)

PoE
1. Shiny Hydreigon (3H hydra)
5. Skelda

game over

either that or I have too many damn townreads @_@

Pick and Ban.

[Casso the King of Seals]

AKA yes, you're always paranoid of her, but you've never demonstrated that you're incompetent or bad at reading her, so yes it is perfectly understandable to assume that you're able to read her here. Assuming that we're scum partners is dumb because it requires you to believe that Sakura and I are capable of faking the Day 1 that went down as scum, you have to assume I knew she was going to be comfortable with me bussing the hell out of her Day 1 and her pulling off the fake meltdown she's been trying for forever to replicate (closest was OCR, correct?), and believe that the play we've put out after that point is within the realms of fake ability for both of us. You also have to assume I'd be comfortable enough as her partner to have her as my only townread in 7p, which is also :S considering I would have had to bus the hell out of everyone else.

[Casso the King of Seals]

You have the most experience with Sakura, meaning you know her play style better than most and generally won't read her off play style things. This translates into you knowing how to read her better than most. What about this explanation isn't clicking for you? Results in reading accuracy don't always translate into ability to read accurately.

if I read her better than most then my reads on her should obviously be accurate considering I'D KNOW HOW TO READ HER. but they're not and I always misread her. so I obviously don't know how to read her. your implication in the last sentence is backwards - if I can read her accurately, than my read on her should be accurate. since it's not, I can't read her

you should also know how hard it is to actually read her considering that newbie game where everything she did was intended to fool you. given she's capable of shit like that, why are you so surprised I'm not sure about her?

also why would you expect me to be able to see town Sakura considering YOU YOURSELF WERE SCUMREADING HER ON D1 AND THOUGHT HER PLAY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE USUAL SAKURA? if you actually believed this then you shouldn't be so surprised that I'm not sure on her either, especially when the only reason you gave for townreading her afaik was her response to the wagon on D1. you're asking me to see smth that you don't even think is there. so what's going on? this feels like smth you just made up after I called you on your false BOP argument

ON DAY 1
I WAS SCUMREADING SAKURA ON DAY 1
AFTER THAT SHE HAS COMPLETELY BEEN THE USUAL SAKURA

[Casso the King of Seals]

Or do you mean me having trouble sorting her out initially means that I should be having trouble sorting her out on Day 8?
Because I really hope that isn't the case.

[Casso the King of Seals]

F-16 and Norl both wanted to lynch Casso and Tammy was expressing suspicion of him

besides that I don't think Proph matters here and I don't wanna speculate too much on NKs for no reason. the major point with all the kills is probably to get rid of threats to Casso. I don't wanna rule ppl out just bc of NKs when it probably doesn't even matter

on top of that I don't think it makes any more sense if you swap in BBQ or you. Norl was scumreading BBQ but I don't know if that means anything

This is also bullshit, by the way.
F-16 would occasionally get paranoid of me, then we would interact, then he would call me town. I was never a strong suspect of his.
Nor, suspected me for a majority of the game. Then he decided there was a good possibility I was town, then he died. He also never really went after me.
Tammy went "oh Casso might be scum" before we interacted. Please find me a game where Tammy hasn't called me scum before we interacted (hint: there isn't a game that exists).
Geists was also killed! Geists didn't have us as a scumread. In fact, geists had us as the opposite of a scumread.

[Casso the King of Seals]

if Casso flips town I'm completely lost. which is another reason I wanna lynch him immediately (information)

shooting from the ass, Proph + one of you/BBQ bc the way Nero tried to 1v1 you earlier. and

if I really have to pick between you and BBQ I'll probably just suicide although I'd lean towards BBQ

this also suggests you're now very strongly town reading Sakura
Although you weren't strongly toe reading Sakura before and we are having a discussion about how you're always paranoid of her?

[Casso the King of Seals]

Hey pieguy, both of your scumreads are at L-1 what does that tell you.

That pie is scum, Thor is right, and Nacho isn't talking to me.

[Casso the King of Seals]

"Hey Thor, go post, I not communicate nothing!"

Well whoop-de-doo, Nacho. WHat do you want? Would you like me to just...push your case you're not even talking to me about for you or something?
@Sakura - yo, vote Nacho's case, he's too lazy to say gak about it. Huzzah! Brilliance!

There, done and done.

[Sakura Hana]

you mean vote BBQ like i'm already doing? or did I miss something.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Though it looks like I am wearing him down about Pie...hurm...sexy.

@Sakura - clearly the hammer is yours. Do yourself a favor and at least post up your thoughts about each wagon. I don't know what your case is on either of us really (or lack thereof) but I am confident that i am willing to call whatever your case on this slot is to be dumb. I'm good like that. Also, I'll admit honest curiosity as regards the Proph case - does it hold water in your head?

If it totally doesn't, and you're neutral on lynching me, would you like to do a counterwagon on Pie? Nacho may eventually communicate with me and we can sort this noise out. Also, I'll admit BBQ voting for Proph over me just leaves me personally flummoxed. So maybe Pie/Proph makes sense? Maybe that's why Nacho is starting to talk my way even as he doesn't talk and apparently is living some weird nomad existence somewhere between his home and Canada.

[Casso the King of Seals]

you mean vote BBQ like i'm already doing? or did I miss something.

You missed the big wagons and what is happening with them. BBQ scum has little justification not to vote me, unless your theory is me/BBQ ( ) and if that's the case you should vote me in any case.
Make sense now?

[Sakura Hana]

but I am confident that i am willing to call whatever your case on this slot is to be dumb. I'm good like that. Also, I'll admit honest curiosity as regards the Proph case - does it hold water in your head?

Only case I have on you would be a town case, why would that be dumb =/

[Sakura Hana]

I mean, if you're following up this game i've been defending your slot with my own life for like the whole game.

[Casso the King of Seals]

I have been pretty open about me flitting in and out.
Okay, so you think i am town - so, if BBQ is scum, why wouldn't he justify hammering me right now?

[Casso the King of Seals]

I mean, just a few days ago I had him spitting at me, and now he decides to float the other way (presumably because of something semi-non-insulting Nacho must have posted (I mean, obviously) but scumBBQ seems to have fine justification for voting my slot. He then went the other way, that = town BBQ unless my math is wonky or you think he's playing some oddball long game.

[Sakura Hana]

Eh that's a good point, but then pie/proph doesnt make sense...

[Sakura Hana]

Unvote
Vote: Proph

Forgot that there could be only 1 scum remaining...

[Casso the King of Seals]

Eh that's a good point, but then pie/proph doesnt make sense...

Well, I guess if there's only one scum this won't matter - but what do you see ruling out pie/proph as a team?
(said Thor unwilling to give up Pie if Proph flips scum)