In post 73, Hopkirk wrote:I also agree with burn, it sounds town. But I don’t really think that was indicative of alignment. That kind of stuff seems to be something that he has a long standing dislike of so he does believe what he’s saying which nullifies the point that it looks town motivated- it looks genuine because it is genuine but it’s about something which scum or town can easily look genuine in saying.
Beast why? This would mean you view us both as scum so got a case on each of us?
@60 twisted: Because of the vote on someone then the statement in your next post that the person was town with nothing changing.
If one of you thinks he’s town and the other says scum then the presentation that your slot views him as town is out of place.
@66: Could you explain? Is this due to a meta read on ice?
pedit: Holy cow
VOTE: Monkeyman
Re 60: I don't know why this is so hard. 33 bugged me slightly, but my other head had a stronger opinion in the opposite direction.
No, it's not. 65 is just a really town-motivated post. This is naive of me and I know that, but it feels like a dumb thing for scum to say-- it does nothing but give other players ammo should he indeed survive that long, and as such I surmise that he honestly expects to be nightkilled.
This so much, holy crap. Monkey didn't say anything scumy; he was merely confused. The pounce on him after that looks to me like scum scenting a weak, mislynchable townie. My only reservation is that someone else had just argued that Monkey's posts were town, so it wouldn't seem as appealing/like an obvious easy lynch.
Agreed.
In post 84, Hopkirk wrote: In post 80, Antihero wrote:well, for one you're asking for cases on page 3 when beast was pretty clear on what his point was against you
second, your stance on KK makes no sense and tries to kind of parrot what GreyICE said while agreeing with the "KK is town" echochamber (you agree with burn, it sounds town; but..... then again, not?)
third, the monkeyman vote. it's pretty awful
now your turn.
1.) If i'm bussing he thinks we're both scum. If his only reason is "hop's bussing" that's not enough to justify a scum read on either of us. The other parts of his post- he did it... that means nothing, and it looks artifical- last town game i was called robotic, i rather frequently get that kind of stuff.
2.) I do not say he is town or scum, i am explaining the point that makes him, on first look, appear obvious town is something which was not actually indicative of alignment. (I find him null btw)
3.) His posts were pretty awful yeah. It sounds like his mtivation there is to totally halt what's going on and draw away attention from something that was happening there.
Pere want to explain?
1) BC gave more reasons than this, so this point is disingenuous.
3) To reiterate others, this is weak shit. I don't know how you can attribute what is clearly confusion of the setup, even if he's scum, for conniving intentional derailing of the conversation. It would take all of one post to straighten him out, say there is no jester, and return to the state of affairs already underway. Which is exactly what happened.
In post 91, Hopkirk wrote:1.) I said during the post I made the vote- the sudden 360 from voting someone to saying that person was a town read- and a good town read- without any explanation and without the person posting in between.
2.) As I’ve said before “3.) His posts were pretty awful yeah. It sounds like his mtivation there is to totally halt what's going on and draw away attention from something that was happening there.” And “And monkey's town reads come from whomever defends him while he tries to bring us back to rvs and stop what's going on now?” He’s trying to perpetuate unnecessarily rvs in what appears to me to be an attempt to remove attention to something from a partner.
1) I am pretty sure we have already explained this, but see further up in this post if it needs saying again. Calling it a "good/strong town read" was Jafar's opinion, but on balance this slot does read that one as leaning town.
In post 93, Hopkirk wrote:"this should be evident from the way he tried to differentiate between protown and townish in 73"
Yes i'm saying that it's not possible to tell town genuinity from something you actually believe genuinity meaning the tell become null.
I don't understand the quoted post here or what is then said about it.
In other news, I have a townread on Peregrine.
If it was solely up to me I'd move my vote to Hopkirk, but honestly Bob is still also scum, so it's kinda whatever.
Iago