Mini 1563 - Vampire: The Masquerade Mafia (Fourth Evening)

[Katsuki]

caught to pg8 I'll continue after.

Vote: Monkey

[Aronis]

caught to pg8 I'll continue after.

Vote: Monkey

You do realize he is. . . Uhm, Dead?

[Squirrel Girl]

How about we just get d3x to declare who gets diablerie. It's a test of him, it will keep it centralized for decision making, I don't think anyone is calling him likely scum at this stage, and if he really wants it to go to him at that point, I'm fine with that.

Thoughts?

[Aronis]

If he is mafia we're already sunk. . .

[Aronis]

If he is mafia we're already sunk. . .

Didn't mean to hit submit yet.

I'm okay with that for today.

[Squirrel Girl]

You're a total Debbie Downer.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

How about we just get d3x to declare who gets diablerie. It's a test of him, it will keep it centralized for decision making, I don't think anyone is calling him likely scum at this stage, and if he really wants it to go to him at that point, I'm fine with that.

Thoughts?

Nope.

[Squirrel Girl]

Why do you oppose the idea?

[vonflare]

Possibly becuase it shows who the scum should NK?

Maybe d3x could propose a pool instead?

I think the pool idea is better than the single-nom. more WIFOM for the scum.

[Kagami]

I also don't like letting d3x decide it unilaterally, and I don't think d3x should be nommed.

d3x nom would just mean he get's NKed, no question. Someone else nommed forces scum to either kill the nom, and we get to keep d3x, or they kill d3x and we have a living diablerist.

We're doing single nom. Pool makes no sense.

[Aronis]

Maybe we should scumhunt and determine who we are actually lynching?

[vonflare]

Maybe we should scumhunt and determine who we are actually lynching?

This post makes no sense.

The diablarie discussion promotes, well,

discussion

, which is used to scumhunt.

So what would you suggest we do, other than discuss? RVS?

Scumhunting is occuring as a side effect of this conversation!

[Aronis]

Maybe we should scumhunt and determine who we are actually lynching?

This post makes no sense.

The diablarie discussion promotes, well,

discussion

, which is used to scumhunt.

So what would you suggest we do, other than discuss? RVS?

Scumhunting is occuring as a side effect of this conversation!

Based on this conversation, I am lynching Kagami.

VOTE: Kagami

Or Katsuki for voting a Dead guy.

[vonflare]

Or Katsuki for voting a Dead guy.

Yeah, that was kind of strange.

But funny.

[Katsuki]

WELL

THAT WAS AWKWARD

THOUGHTS (IF ANY) LATER

[mnemonicdevice]

Alright I am back.

I actually am townreading vonflare
and also aronis

[mnemonicdevice]

Whoops posted wrong. NOT ARONIS
SCUMREADING ARONIS

[SpyreX]

Well that's fine. I think we can let events play out but I'd assume that the ability takes vitae so we need to keep that in mind down the road. Dayvig is probably town but not SOLID ROCK HARD.

As for diablorie help me parse through this if I'm missing something:

Split alive into two groups each voting for a person - right now at 12 alive unless it was for scum scum can't swing the vote. This doesn't eliminate the possibility of scum just killing the winner (which they would know) but it also tightens coordination and if scum DONT have actual votes or manipulate it another way we'd know.

Aronis is going all the way around the horn to too obvious a bag to be actual scum. Vonflare's bite (rimshot) isn't directly telling but the fact that for every Aronis post of nothing there's a von post of just twirling on fire is getting old.

[Aronis]

Alright I am back.

I actually am townreading vonflare
and also aronis

Wow.

[Aronis]

Whoops posted wrong. NOT ARONIS
SCUMREADING ARONIS

What the hell is wrong with you!?!?!

[Squirrel Girl]

I also don't like letting d3x decide it unilaterally, and I don't think d3x should be nommed.

d3x nom would just mean he get's NKed, no question. Someone else nommed forces scum to either kill the nom, and we get to keep d3x, or they kill d3x and we have a living diablerist.

We're doing single nom. Pool makes no sense.

At the end of the day, a single nom makes sense. I think we can all agree on that (except Vonny-boy, but no one is listening to him) So, all a single nom will be is that someone will make a suggestion and a rough plurality will agree. So, really, to a degree, a single person is going to make the nom, and all the other people are doing is agreeing with the nom - with my D3x comment all I'm asking is for people to agree to the nom*er* as opposed to the nom*ee* It really works out to about the same thing.

Also, if D3x wants to nom himself, so what? I'm sure he understands that puts him at risk for a night kill. Does he have a power that precludes that? What if he's scum and they can't kill him at all? What if he's a 3rd party? There are a lot of possibilities there, and some are bad and some are good, but all of them will give us information based on what happens. Plus, if he gets another Daykill effect we could always obligate him to direct it on pain of lynch or something, which, again, benefits us and provides info.

The downside? He's town, noms himself, has no way to protect himself, and scum NK him. Which...is the downside that can happen with any town nom and the only change is that we might nom someone who otherwise scum wouldn't have bothered to kill. I'm pretty okay with that risk What do you see as the big downside I'm missing?

Split alive into two groups each voting for a person - right now at 12 alive unless it was for scum scum can't swing the vote. This doesn't eliminate the possibility of scum just killing the winner (which they would know) but it also tightens coordination and if scum DONT have actual votes or manipulate it another way we'd know.

By Word of Mod - scum specifically have votes.

Aronis is going all the way around the horn to too obvious a bag to be actual scum.

For me I have to say it's going the other way - I feel like he's trying too hard to appear too scummy to be scummy. Have you ever played with him before as either alignment? I haven't..

[vonflare]

At the end of the day, a single nom makes sense. I think we can all agree on that (except Vonny-boy, but no one is listening to him)

Oh well, it seems that all of you think this suggestion is for the best, so I'll go along.

Who is nomming? have we come to a decision yet?

and who is the nommer nomming?

Becuase the nommy nommer of nomminess better nom a nommable nom.

[vonflare]

I don't want to give vonflare diablerie,

Are you calling me scum, or are you just saying that I shouldn't get diablarie because it would be better used elsewhere?

Probably thinks I could use it better.

Truth.

No

What does this mean? why did greyice put the word "NO" after the post?

[GreyICE]

I removed spoiler text from the post. Text in spoilers (aka the black bars) is not allowed. You can still use spoiler boxes to shorten a long post, as long as you are aware votes in them will not be counted

[Aronis]

I don't want to give vonflare diablerie,

Are you calling me scum, or are you just saying that I shouldn't get diablarie because it would be better used elsewhere?

Probably thinks I could use it better.

Truth.

No

What does this mean? why did greyice put the word "NO" after the post?

Hmm. . .