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Post Post #2475 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:18 am

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In post 2474, Egg wrote:Six, weren't you the guy that fakeclaimed doc as VT because you wanted the JK lynched?
If so, promise me you aren't VT here because if you are I refuse to ever play with you again.
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Post Post #2476 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:18 am

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I can buy 2 weak JOATs. Since I don't want to lynch Rach or SiX anyway, still happy with TWIE's being lynched.

@Rach- why did you select Nero to friendly neighborize?
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Post Post #2477 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:18 am

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Marie & Egg, you're thinking too deep about things.

My claim:
- Aptil claimed 1-Shot Vigilante which is only 50% of my powers.
- My Bodyguard protection in where I trade my life for someone else's makes no harm to the mafias.
- You CC JOAT with more dangerous abilities than mine puts you under the nightkill instead.
- Through claiming Bodyguard, the last 50% of my powers I may be able to put it to some other power role's service.

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Post Post #2478 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:19 am

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We shouldn't be lynching Six today, 'cause while a 1-shot mafia is possible (as its been common on this site recently) combined with MR's sk suspicions and his skish type claim he's more likely to be a sk than mafia and mafia is the town's biggest threat. + we can stick him on confirmed town Rach.
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Post Post #2479 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:20 am

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You also don't seem to realize that my Bodyguard is a 1-time Usage. I can only use it once.
That means, should I protect Egg this round and he's not shot, I lose my Bodyguard ability.
Should I target Egg and he's shot, I die.

= No Harm to the Mafias whatsoever since the chance of me misusing it is too great. The best I can is just to claim it.
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Post Post #2480 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:22 am

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now can we all just hurry up and lynch scum Thad?
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Post Post #2481 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:22 am

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Does friendly neighborizer mean Nero is definitely town? I've never seen the "friendly" part.
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Post Post #2482 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:23 am

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Scum basically has to shoot Six because he's a huge threat to them either way.

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Post Post #2483 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:24 am

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I have a LARGE history of playing Doc which is the closest to being a BG (though you don't die) and trying to make sure scum does not NK so I can protect. Actually my first game on site was playing Doc.


There was absolutely NO reason for him to claim that, unless he was trying to find the real JOAT. I knew crumbing is a mixed bag, but I took the gamble because I wanted to have it out there since I was being read as scummy by so many players, and I do have a tendency to be lynch bait.

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That does not sound weak to me.
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Post Post #2484 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:24 am

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it says nothing about my alignment but I'm town 'cause I didn't want to waste the towns time by talking about a Rach lynch.
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Post Post #2485 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:26 am

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How am I a huge threat to the Mafia?
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Post Post #2486 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:29 am

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Oh yes and I picked Nero because he was scum reading me and yet my gut was telling me he was town plus his posting was very much the town Nero.

I kinda felt bad about him turning it around and having to defend a town read on me without telling all of you WHY but he stepped up to the plate admirably.
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Post Post #2487 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:33 am

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tbh, I felt the mafia gods were punishing me 'cause your play really stunk and I HATED defending you. BUT I felt important. :) I think its very very very likely that scum are in that chorus of "yeah Rach is town" DV especially.
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Post Post #2488 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:33 am

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tbh, I felt the mafia gods were punishing me 'cause your play really stunk and I HATED defending you. BUT I felt important. :) I think its very very very likely that scum are in that chorus of "yeah Rach is town" DV especially.
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Post Post #2489 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:34 am

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Scum are always on the look out for who the PRs are. When I play scum that is where I am looking as well.

That is why there is protocol to how and when to claim a PR. Scum often will fake claim to avoid being lynched or to bring out the true PRs in a CC.

Basically SiX has now put a big fat target on my back.
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Post Post #2490 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:36 am

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Yeah I am sorry for that :( partly it was yes I have been very sick and I did not want to replace out because I know how hard it is to find replacements for large games. As well as not wanting to be TOO towny so scum did not shoot me before I had a chance to do what I could for town.
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Post Post #2491 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:37 am

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Yeah I think DV is a very likely candidate, however time is short and we need a lynch TODAY

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Post Post #2492 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:37 am

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In post 2481, Egg wrote:Does friendly neighborizer mean Nero is definitely town? I've never seen the "friendly" part.
It confirms to Nero that Rach is town.

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Post Post #2493 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:39 am

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From the wording of my PM it seemed like my FN might fail if I tried to use it on scum. Besides scum would know I was town already
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Post Post #2494 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:39 am

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- Aptil already claimed my role as "1-Shot Vigilante" so I was already marked as a PR.
- Aptil used the Vigil shot on Talah, I lost my Kill ability.
- All what remained was my Bodyguard ability
#1 I can't self-protect
#2 I can only send in a PM saying protecy X, regardless if the protection succeeds or fails it's a 1-time usage just as the shot, I lose it directly after that round.
#3 should it succeed, I trade my life for the protected one's.
- I had no obligation whatsoever to claim, I claimed by free will.
- I can offer my services should there be someone who needs me.
- I just replaced in without much knowledge about this game.
- You suspecting me suggests the Mafias to get me lynched rather than shooting me.
- There are way more experienced / dangerous players for the mafias to shoot rather than me.
- You CC my claim without thinking twice about it, blame yourself.
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Post Post #2495 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:42 am

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I did have to look at the Wiki too I have been a Neighbor (chosen at random before the game) and a Neighborizer (PR choses who to Neighborize) before but this is the first experience with FN

:roll: SiX seriously dude. Enough I am not even voting for you ATM All you are doing is making yourself look bad You are either a VI or scum maybe SK.
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Post Post #2496 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:43 am

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In post 2483, RachMarie wrote:I have a LARGE history of playing Doc which is the closest to being a BG (though you don't die) and trying to make sure scum does not NK so I can protect. Actually my first game on site was playing Doc.


There was absolutely NO reason for him to claim that, unless he was trying to find the real JOAT. I knew crumbing is a mixed bag, but I took the gamble because I wanted to have it out there since I was being read as scummy by so many players, and I do have a tendency to be lynch bait.

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Weak? Jailkeeper if used properly can avoid a kill, and a FN can confirm TWO townies to each other, even if they do not get to chat in a QT

That does not sound weak to me.
JK is ambiguous in it rasies the question: did you protect town or roleblock scum?

Friendly Neighbor confirms you only.

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Friendly Neighbor is nearly impossible to frame as a liar. If you are scum and receive a Friendly Neighbor greeting, you probably are not served by lying and saying you didn't get it.


Each of you is only 2-shot, which reduces your power. But, spreading the town powers out among several players prevents scum from taking out town power in 1-shot. So, in all, balanced.

You're town to me through play. If you die and flip scum, however, Nero will be the next lynch. I know this is obvious, but it should be said anyways.
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Post Post #2497 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:44 am

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In post 2491, RachMarie wrote:Yeah I think DV is a very likely candidate, however time is short and we need a lynch TODAY

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Post Post #2498 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:45 am

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Six, if you are really a BG then you should be on RM 'cause you know she's ike conf town so this whole "I can offer my services" is mildly dumb.

Scum wouldn't shoot at a 1 shot that has used their power...

no one is going to lynch you as long as I'm here so chill.
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Post Post #2499 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:45 am

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Nero, that explains so much about why your defense of Rach seemed fake at first lol.

But hold on a second. Rach, what exactly is it that friendly neighborizer does? And Nero, what exactly were you told when you were neighborized? I ask because Rach says you two are confirmed to each other but Nero says it doesn't say anything about his alignment. I want it clarified.

Six, you are either a town PR or SK. They absolutely have to kill you. You can either stop one of their NKs which could be disastarous for them later in the game or you can kill one of them who maybe was playing a flawless game. And I get that you could be NK Immune SK, but they almost have to take the shot now while it's still early.

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