Newbie 1495 (DAY 4) - The One where Everyone got Murdered

[enomis]

Saying you take a completely different approach as scum and town while you had a scum game ongoing where you were active is like lying straight to our face.
VOTE: malakittens
This is

L-1

.

[enomis]

Oh. And xayzeck, stop avoiding this thread. While you are posting in other of your games, please take a look at this one and post something too. Thank You.

[Xayzeck]

I'm on a phone right now, not near a computer. I can't give this the attention it needs from a phone

[Malakittens]

Saying you take a completely different approach as scum and town while you had a scum game ongoing where you were active is like lying straight to our face.
VOTE: malakittens
This is

L-1

.

I knew that game would cause problems because that's the first scum game that was decent of mine in... 6 months.. All of my others suck. I was excited for the game for multiple reasons and you don't have access to scum gt. but I planned to manipliate the playerlist and my meta for that game. Also I played with every single player but one/two and I'm sick of them reading me like the back of their hand

[Malakittens]

Also there's a bunch of games where I'm lynched. Night kill is a rarity. >> but yes I'm normally endgamed/survived a lot though

I have majority play in hydras which probably doesn't help you much.

[Jcozmo]

Saying you take a completely different approach as scum and town while you had a scum game ongoing where you were active is like lying straight to our face.
VOTE: malakittens
This is

L-1

.

I knew that game would cause problems because that's the first scum game that was decent of mine in... 6 months.. All of my others suck. I was excited for the game for multiple reasons and you don't have access to scum gt. but I planned to manipliate the playerlist and my meta for that game. Also I played with every single player but one/two and I'm sick of them reading me like the back of their hand

Well that's enough for me. You deny the relevance of your old games and cite your newest example to the contrary of what you are selling as an outlier.

You've pushed meta so hard all game, so be it . Live by your meta, die by your meta.

Stating intent to hammer.

[Moratorium]

Vote Count Analysis

[Shinobi]

@Mala:
You seem completely active this game as scum. A most recently completed game. Like today.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=38067

I am hard pressed to find out the games where you got lynched, town/scum. I just seem to see you keep getting NKed or endgamed. Only found one game where you were town when you got lynched. I am lazy to search anymore so....

Oh for fuck's sake.

Mala, why the hell did you do that?

Vote Count Analysis

We get it. I flip-flopped a lot on this lynch. You didn't need a graph to tell us. I'm still not convinced that Mala is scum, but her last statement is going to lead to her getting lynched no matter what.

MM, do me a favor and check me so I don't get lynched tomorrow if she flips scum.

[Moratorium]

Vote Count Analysis

We get it. I flip-flopped a lot on this lynch. You didn't need a graph to tell us.

Stop being so self-conscious. I'm posting it to have everyone's record easily referenced.

[Xayzeck]

@mala still

Why am I suddenly not in the list when I was at the bottom of your list?

[Xayzeck]

Why am I suddenly not in the list when I was at the bottom of your list?

I'm still not seeing the mala thing to be honest. It just feels like townflailing over scumflailing right now.

[Jcozmo]

Why am I suddenly not in the list when I was at the bottom of your list?

I'm still not seeing the mala thing to be honest. It just feels like townflailing over scumflailing right now.

Who is

your

strongest scumread then?

[Malakittens]

Just lynch me. Wicked helped me gain confident that I'm not gonna be totally fucked by meta when I'm scum. I'm done being lynched every single time as either alignment. Wicked was my stepping stone. My scum play went south when I rolled scum 8-9 times in a row with two town games in between. I created evil regals because I needed a break from everyone knowing my meta and I wanted a fresh start.

My lynch is inevitable right now. If its not now it will be in the future. I'm a distraction; town thinks I'm scummy; scum sees me as a easy lynch.

I derp'd. I forgot the setup, I didn't have astounding reads.

So lynch me. I'm at L-1 and I'm a VT.

Reads as follows:

Town:

Mm
Eco (that guy)
Shin

Null-Leaning town:

Mora

Null-leaning scum:

Xayz

Scum:

{BBT/Wolfy}
Enomis

[Malakittens]

Also guys wicked just ended last night. My posts yesterday about meta were during the day. I won't a) talk about ongoing games b) comprise the game by saying 'oh yeah btw I have recently destroyed my scum meta by manipulating a game!' When it's not finished.

I worked my ass off in wicked to get where I was there and wasn't jereopadizing it here even though I was self meta'ing.

[enomis]

Also guys wicked just ended last night. My posts yesterday about meta were during the day. I won't a) talk about ongoing games b) comprise the game by saying 'oh yeah btw I have recently destroyed my scum meta by manipulating a game!' When it's not finished.

I worked my ass off in wicked to get where I was there and wasn't jereopadizing it here even though I was self meta'ing.

Ermm, No look here. Shouldn't your thoughts be:" Oh no, i am being being accused to being scum. Lets use my meta of me being inactive as scum as a defense. But i have an ongoing game where i am scum and i am active. Therefore I should not

LIE

to town here by using my meta as my defense since that is going to be not true. I should prolly use some other method."

The above is maybe what town mala would have thought?

I am satisfied with my vote.

Someone hammer please.

[enomis]

@Xayzeck:

Hey bro. If you are not seeing the mala thing. Question your upmost scumread or do something? Or even if you feel that she's town, ACTUALLY defend her?

So you needed a computer to type, No, i don't see mala as scum. She seems like town flailing.

Really, you needed a computer to do that?

Tsk tsk tsk. I really feel like switching my vote back to you.

[Moratorium]

I created evil regals because I needed a break from everyone knowing my meta and I wanted a fresh start.

If you wanted a break from everyone knowing your meta, why are you explaining to everyone what your meta is.

Sigh. I'm sticking with my vote, this is either just all bluff, or we walk into D2 with Shinobi/Xayzeck having positioned themselves on the sidelines quite evidently. Sure, what the hell, I love a challenge.

D1 cop claim, terrible D1 activity, potential D1 derptown lynch, potential D2 cluster, I'M ALL IN, LET'S DO THIS THING.

[enomis]

^^ Yeah. I also got that mala town flailing vibe. But i learned not to trust my gut too much. She lied and i don't really see why mala would lie as town.

But seeing your post, You seem like you are 100% sure mala would flip town? (Just that you worded it like you don't know.)

That's the feeling i am getting. hmmm....

[Moratorium]

Of course I don't know. This is what I call my "Hope and Fear" stage.

Appeal to Emotion is real, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it was never Appeal to Emotion in the first place.

I'm sticking with my vote.

[Shinobi]

Mala just towntold. Not near a computer right now but this lynch is wrong.

Will explain when I get the chance.

[enomis]

@Shinobi:

I might be overthinking this lynch really hard. I don't understand why scum would lie with their back to the wall when I'm already defending them. The concept doesn't make much sense, especially when I feel like I could swing this lynch on my own if I really, really wanted to. (I stand by the fact that I still think I could have done it when I pushed Wolfy, even if some players might not have agreed with it.)

When

did you defend her? You just voted and unvoted her. I didn't even see anything close to that. You had her as your scumread rite? Even if you did defend her(which you did not) Why would you be defending your scumread? Granted you are not sure about her lynch but defending???

Though the one thing I would like to point out is that his response is kind of shitty. I don't really like the way he writes this giant post that boils down to "lol u suk ur wrong." His townread on Wolfy is alright...I guess? I still think it's kind of a stretch, but if multiple people are saying it then I might just be wrong about Wolfy.

No, you don't just go with the majority/the flow. You see the majority's reason on WHY wolfy is town. Then you compare those reasons with your reasons why you scumread wolfy. You don't seem interested in doing that and try to read wolfy btr.

So Mala lied about her meta and that's really, really bad. I really want to vote her off now, but I just have one more question for Mora.

Actually, I'm going to rethink this for a little bit.

Mora, why would Mala lie about her meta?

And then:

Oh for fuck's sake.

Mala, why the hell did you do that?

This seems like a way overreaction to mala lieing. Seems faked.
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I am not liking you more and more shinobi.

[enomis]

Oh, mala just town told? I hope i will see that argument when i wake up.

If you really think mala towntold, i suggest you propose another lynch target with valid reasons on why he/she is scum because we don't have much time left. Also, i suggest you don't propose wolfy as i don't think you can get his lynch in around 2days.

[Moratorium]

I'd be cool with just a mass voteflip to Shinobi, FYI.

[Moratorium]

I'M ALL-IN. UNLESS WE FLIP TO THAT GUY, WHERE I'M ALL-INNER.

[Moratorium]

unvote

Will let this conversation play out.