Newbie 1495 (DAY 4) - The One where Everyone got Murdered

Shinobi · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:48 am

I remain unconvinced by what he's saying.

He still hasn't explained his scumread on Mala, and his post doesn't have the same kind of impact as hers did because she already made her reads fully intending to be hammered. Enomis could just copy her idea and steal it in an attempt to gain towncred.

His refusing to elaborate on why his vote is still on Mala is quite problematic.

Someone hammer this.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:57 pm

This is getting ridiculous now, how the fuck have we allowed ourselves to get into this situation. Enomis is obviously town.

I provided a scum-case on him the other day, and it was a fairly weak case but I wanted to put something together to see what reactions I got, not only from Enomis but from everyone else as well. I find it very worrying that not one person questioned me about any part of it. It was kind of just accepted, or ignored, not sure which one.

I really don't like an Enomis lynch, and I'm actually quite surprised with how quickly this has turned around from a Mala lynch to an Enomis lynch. Whether Mala is scum or town, I think she would always post the way she did, no matter her alignment, she is trying to save herself at the end of the day (except for the comment about asking people to lynch her, I accepted this would be pretty ballsy as scum at that current time)

Mala's pointing the finger at Enomis, plus Shinobi's hesitancy to vote and his attempted defence of her, has thrown town into complete confusion and this just reeks of a panic lynch now. I think it's safe to say that D1 goes to scum.

Wolfy · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:27 pm

Wagon build on enomis...
1. Mala
2. Xayzeck
3. Shinobi
4. Mora
5.

My strongest town reads:
MM
BBT

enomis

None of us on the wagon so I'm looking at a scum driven wagon here...

really concerned that Mala's gone quiet again now the pressure is on enomis.
really concerned at Mora's back-off on Mala - starting to think that we're being played by an M&M (not MM) scum team.

I don't want to hammer but I even less want to no lynch.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:35 pm

In post 652, Wolfy wrote:Wagon build on enomis...
1. Mala
2. Xayzeck
3. Shinobi
4. Mora
5.

My strongest town reads:
MM
BBT

enomis

None of us on the wagon so I'm looking at a scum driven wagon here...

really concerned that Mala's gone quiet again now the pressure is on enomis.
really concerned at Mora's back-off on Mala - starting to think that we're being played by an M&M (not MM) scum team.

I don't want to hammer but I even less want to no lynch.

Mora is becoming a big concern for me, I am really struggling to read him. Sometimes he looks so obviously town, and then at others he looks 100% scum. MM, I would greatly appreciate if you consider looking up Mora. I was looking forward to the information from Mala's flip, but that seems pretty unlikely now.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:41 pm

In post 652, Wolfy wrote:
I don't want to hammer but I even less want to no lynch.

I have been stressing over a no-lynch situation but everyone else seems pretty relaxed about it. Yet, here we are. I'm probably going to wake up tomorrow to see the decision that has been taken. I cannot stress enough, that I

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT

an Enomis lynch, just from these early days he looks like he could be a very useful addition to town in this game.

Wolfy · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:50 pm

In post 654, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 652, Wolfy wrote:
I don't want to hammer but I even less want to no lynch.
I have been stressing over a no-lynch situation but everyone else seems pretty relaxed about it. Yet, here we are. I'm probably going to wake up tomorrow to see the decision that has been taken. I cannot stress enough, that I
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT
an Enomis lynch, just from these early days he looks like he could be a very useful addition to town in this game.

Noted, but No Lynch is really not an option.
No matter what we think we know about enomis we can't know for certain until a flip.
I have to go to bed soon and I will not be awake again before deadline so if it's me that does it I'll have to do it soon.

I guess enomis is offline now but anybody else got any more to add?
30 mins max

sorry, I think you're town but No lynch is worse...

Intent to hammer enomis

Wolfy · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:52 pm

VOTE: enomis

absolutely

only

because I don't want no lynch and I can't see BBT, JCozmo or MM doing it

Xayzeck · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:57 pm

In post 650, Shinobi wrote:His refusing to elaborate on why his vote is still on Mala is quite problematic.

Someone hammer this.

This doesn't make sense?

Xayzeck · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:09 pm

In post 653, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:then at others he looks 100% scum.

When does this happen? Is it the quotes that enomis brought up that you are referring to?

Xayzeck · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:11 pm

In post 656, Wolfy wrote:VOTE: enomis

absolutely
only
because I don't want no lynch and I can't see BBT, JCozmo or MM doing it

You stated intent, and hammered like, an hour later?

We've got 5-6 hours till deadline, why did you hammer so quickly?

Xayzeck · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:13 pm

BBT, if you felt so strongly about enomis town, why are we only hearing of it now, when he's at L-1? It's not just a townread on enomis either apparently, you seem too have a hardashell townread on him. When did this start?

Shinobi · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:19 pm

In post 657, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 650, Shinobi wrote:His refusing to elaborate on why his vote is still on Mala is quite problematic.

Someone hammer this.
This doesn't make sense?

It does. Mora asked him a while ago to elaborate on why he thinks Mala is scum, aside from lying. He proceeded to ignore the question and just say, "yeah, she's probably town but she's scum."

And now Wolfy thinks he's town and then hammers him anyway.

This game is going places.

Xayzeck · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:42 pm

And somehow hammering him fixes the problem?

Shinobi · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:57 pm

In post 662, Xayzeck wrote:And somehow hammering him fixes the problem?

What problem?

Xayzeck · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:57 pm

That he hasn't explained his Mala read?

Shinobi · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:59 pm

Oh no, we solved it by murdering him.

Because he was scum.

enomis · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:33 pm

Oh. Someone hammered. Oh btw i am town. And someone, try to read mora tmr. Mora voting me because about the two L1 thing is simply ridiculous without much other stuff to back it up.

Oh, btw i am still thinking whether shinobi is town with conf bias thingy or he is just scum. Well that's all up to you to figure out.

enomis · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:46 pm

and i thought i explained everything about mala. Go iso me. Its just that you all refuse to see the point i make and treat it as nothing.

Shinobi · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:57 pm

It's twilight. If you're town, go answer Mora's question.

Shinobi · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:10 pm

Also if eno actually flips town that I would highly suggest hiplynching Mora.

Xayzeck · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:36 pm

If you're town, interesting read on Mora. I've never questioned my townread on him.

Anw enomis, I'd like to play with you more. It's not everyday I meet a Singaporean scummer

Shinobi · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:45 pm

I know, it's really hard for me to explain as well because I was so certain that enomis was mafia at the end of the day.

Ultimately I think it boils down to how he handled the Mala/eno lynch. He only unvoted Mala when he realized he wouldn't be able to gain traction...Maybe? I'm still not sure, but that's the only scumplayer I see at this point that makes any sort of sense if enomis is town.

But I still think enomis was scum. He still isn't answering Mora's question even in twilight, when he has nothing else to lose as town. His objective right now should be giving the town as much information as humanly possible, but he

still

isn't doing that, knowing full well that he's going to flip town as soon as the mod locks the thread.

enomis · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:18 pm

I dont even know what questions did mora ask. Maybe you could direct me to it. Maybe i missed it or something. Anyway i am in korea class now so i wont be able to check it out. But if u could direct me to it, well, i could matbe have the chance to answer it before the mod locks the thread.

Hi, xayzeck, i would love to play with you again. But the problem is i have problem reading your playstyle. While that will get btr when i play more games with you. I am sure there waa another sigaoore scummer on this site. I think it is metal sonic or smth

Shinobi · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:20 pm

In post 617, Moratorium wrote:
In post 447, Moratorium wrote:
Jcozmo wrote:Why Mala over Xayzeck?
Because she's the Wolfy/BBT false dilemma originator (#214)
Because "We can either have a doc or a BP." after a cop claim seems like a scumslip.
Because no reads, no scumhunting all day.
Because wifom arguments and "woe is me I'm terrible Day 1" instead of, you know, participation.
Because now, here, at the cusp of death, suddenly scumhunting, on a target with barely any posts, for bad reasons.
Enomis, riddle me this one, let's taking the whole lying shabang out of the equation, what's your opinion on the above.

This one.

The one we've mentioned multiple times.

Shinobi · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:41 pm

In post 671, Shinobi wrote:I know, it's really hard for me to explain as well because I was so certain that enomis was mafia at the end of the day.

Ultimately I think it boils down to how he handled the Mala/eno lynch. He only unvoted Mala when he realized he wouldn't be able to gain traction...Maybe? I'm still not sure, but that's the only scumplayer I see at this point that makes any sort of sense if enomis is town.

But I still think enomis was scum. He still isn't answering Mora's question even in twilight, when he has nothing else to lose as town. His objective right now should be giving the town as much information as humanly possible, but he
still
isn't doing that, knowing full well that he's going to flip town as soon as the mod locks the thread.

Also I just realized that Mora just sheeped both of his scumreads onto a different lynch.