NFL Football Thread 2013

[PokerFace]

I think fritzpatrick is servicable aswell especially if he can get good chemistry with andre

Cleveland getting Young and Thigpen leads me to believe their qb pick will not be at 4. I kinda wish we had kept campbell as I liked him and think he is better than the 2 of them.

[Yates]

Some people compare him to Fran tarkenton.

What I meant to say is, "That's Incredible!"

[Bella]

You're forgetting that Houston jettisoned their QB this offseason?

There is ZERO chance Houston passes on Clowney for a QB. Zero. They *might* do it for a 1st round pick if high enough to grab Manziel, Bortles or Bridgewater anyway PLUS a 1st round pick next year [or early second round pick this year] depending on the team. I just don't know who has a DE need that badly. Plus, just imagine facing a team with JJ Watt on one side of the D Line and Clowney on the other. Sickness...

I may be in the minority but I think Fitzpatrick is a serviceable QB. He just never had a good team around him in Buffalo. He CERTAINLY never had an Andre Johnson!

I'm pretty sure they're taking Khalil Mack. Whether that be at #1 or somewhere they traded down to.

[pickemgenius]

there is no way Jadeveon Clowney wont be the first pick.

That would be buttfucking retarded.

[Bella]

2006.

[pickemgenius]

yes a DE was taken 1st overall in 2006 by the Texans!

[Yates]

2006.

Would you rather have Reggie Bush or Mario Williams? Be honest... Here's a hint - one of those two is a 3 time Pro Bowler, the other got his college team sanctioned by the NCAA for accepting illegal money for his family.

[AGar]

Atlanta is the most common thought to trade up for Clowney.

[PJ.]

1st pick should be clowney. All of these QBs are bad.

[pickemgenius]

1st pick should be clowney. All of these QBs are bad.

I'm pretty sure Bridgewater will be pretty good. Probably will make a couple pro bowls. A generally above average QB.

Bortles might be ok.

Derek Carr will busto

Garropollo is fun and could be pretty good.

Tajh Boyd will probably be wholly adequate!

I would fire any exec who thinks Manziel will do well in the NFL.


DRAFT HYPE

GO RAIDERS GO

GRAB MACK/WATKINS IF THEY'RE THERE OTHERWISE TRADE THE FUCK DOWN.

[Egg]

2006.

Would you rather have Reggie Bush or Mario Williams? Be honest... Here's a hint - one of those two is a 3 time Pro Bowler, the other got his college team sanctioned by the NCAA for accepting illegal money for his family.

Bush.

[Yates]

Bush.

Mario Williams is an *ELITE* DE that has made 3 Pro Bowl appearances. Easily a top 5 DE in the league right now [especially with Jared Allen aging and Justin Tuck guaranteed to coast now that he has a fat contract]. Let's say Allen still has 2 years of dominance left. Okay. You have JJ Watt, Jared Allen, ...??? Mario Williams.

Reggie Bush is running on college reputation with what - 3? 4? 100 yard rushing games? Ahmad Bradshaw has comparable numbers in fewer years and with missing tons of time to a broken foot because he was an ACTUAL feature back. Can you HONESTLY say Reggie is a top 5 RB in the league? You'd have to make a convincing argument for me to put him in my top 10 - at #10.

AP, Shady McCoy, Beastmode Lynch, Alfred Morris, Eddie Lacy, Matt Forte, Jamal Charles, Ryan Mathews, Frank Gore, Chris Johnson, Arian Foster? All better than Bush. No argument. CJ Spiller? Mark Ingram? LeGarrette Blount? There's a conversation to be had there...

But I digress. I admit to being a hater.

[PokerFace]

Was egg sarcastic?

I would take Mario though Bush's years with Miami and Detroit were real good. There may be argument for Bush > Mathews but the others you stated I would agree with you on

[Yates]

Was egg sarcastic?

I hope so.

[shaft.ed]

so any live streams

yeah i'm that bored

[Yates]

There may be argument for Bush > Mathews but the others you stated I would agree with you on

Like I said, I'm a hater. But I really do like Mathews. And he has more tread on the tires. Even taking Mathews out, that puts Bush at 11 at best. NO ditched him for Mark Ingram so at least I'm not alone in thinking Ingram has a higher ceiling. That's knocks him down to 12.

Even splitting time with Fred Jackson [who actually ALSO has comparable career numbers to Bush despite playing for a turd of a team] I love what CJ brings to the field. Personally, if I had the option between CJ Spiller and Reggie Bush to play for my Giants? I'd take CJ. So that knocks Reggie down to 13.

I actually completely forgot about Fred Jackson [probably because of his recent injuries]. Fred Jackson or Reggie Bush? That's a tough one I'd have to think about.

I'm also forgetting Steven Jackson because of HIS injury last year. Yeah. Steven Jackson is better than Reggie Bush. Knocks Bush down to 14 [at best].

Man. I also forgot Muscle Hamster! Doug Martin is CERTAINLY better than Reggie. Bush is at 15.

And I forgot about poor MJD wasting away in Jax. Bush is at 16. Of course, 16 is still better than Peyton Hillis. Here's hoping Rashad Jennings pans out... [still ticked we didn't sign Ben Tate]

[Yates]

so any live streams

yeah i'm that bored

I wish. I'm antsy right now. It's like Thanksgiving Day and the turkey is out of the oven but you have to wait for the bird to rest before it can be carved... I just don't know what to do with myself so I'm railing on Reggie Bush!

[shaft.ed]

I'm railing on Reggie Bush

wrong thread

[Yates]

I'm railing on Reggie Bush

wrong thread

Cheeky.

[Bella]

2006.

Would you rather have Reggie Bush or Mario Williams? Be honest... Here's a hint - one of those two is a 3 time Pro Bowler, the other got his college team sanctioned by the NCAA for accepting illegal money for his family.

Yes. That is the point. The Texans have a history of taking the guy they believe will be the best fit/better professional player than the media consensus no-brainer #1 pick, and last time they were proven right.

[Yates]

Yes. That is the point. The Texans have a history of taking the guy they believe will be the best fit/better professional player than the media consensus no-brainer #1 pick, and last time they were proven right.

Okay. So you think the Texans have Khalil Mack ranked HIGHER than Clowney? Or you're convinced Houston is going to trade down?

My feeling is that this is a pass rushing league. Unless you think they are going to line him up at DE, which is certainly a possibility with his size, strength and talent, I just can't imagine an LB getting picked before a ++ DE or even a potential franchise "blind side" OT like Greg Robinson. Plus, ratings for linemen are usually fairly accurate and I don't remember analysts raving about a DL like this since Suh. And that seems to have worked out.

Guess we will see in ~2 1/2 hours!

[pickemgenius]

real talk 2 years 11 mil isnt a fat contract by any means.

[AGar]

Bush.

Mario Williams is an *ELITE* DE that has made 3 Pro Bowl appearances. Easily a top 5 DE in the league right now [especially with Jared Allen aging and Justin Tuck guaranteed to coast now that he has a fat contract]. Let's say Allen still has 2 years of dominance left. Okay. You have JJ Watt, Jared Allen, ...??? Mario Williams.

lol

[Bella]

Yes. That is the point. The Texans have a history of taking the guy they believe will be the best fit/better professional player than the media consensus no-brainer #1 pick, and last time they were proven right.

Okay. So you think the Texans have Khalil Mack ranked HIGHER than Clowney? Or you're convinced Houston is going to trade down?

My feeling is that this is a pass rushing league. Unless you think they are going to line him up at DE, which is certainly a possibility with his size, strength and talent, I just can't imagine an LB getting picked before a ++ DE or even a potential franchise "blind side" OT like Greg Robinson. Plus, ratings for linemen are usually fairly accurate and I don't remember analysts raving about a DL like this since Suh. And that seems to have worked out.

Guess we will see in ~2 1/2 hours!

Houston run a 3-4 with LBs as the pass rush. If they pick Clowney or Mack, they'll be playing LB.

[shaft.ed]

whats with all the bowties