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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:11 pm

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can we do tim 2morrow pl;s
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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:13 pm

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hey reck can i ask you when you started town reading zedio?
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:15 pm

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move your vote to Venmar silly.

but SRS question, if you think TH is scum what do you think of his calling Venmar's [fake as shit] frustration town but Tammy's as null?
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:17 pm

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what do you think about it? i could use a tasty plate of wifom atm
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:20 pm

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I think Venmar is scum so I think that's a maybe link between Venmar and TH.
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:25 pm

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Hm, so, actually, I've had a couple of thoughts:

1. UNVOTE: Untrod Tripod until further notice (hat tip Cerulean I guess?), and, further, VOTE: kanyeknowsbest something something paraphrase what UT said something something love the one you're with etc.

Also, major sideeye to kanye over the way he's been approaching TH.

2. If we had, by some grace, more time until deadline, who would be with me in lynching the heck out of NS?
In post 1749, Nero Cain wrote:I just had a similar role and felt the need to share but LLD is scum now so I mean...
Hold up, can you link or give a fuller description or something?
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:38 pm

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Nero Cain, you are Brad Maddox, and you are a town-aligned one-shot Matchmaker

Abilities:

Brickie - Once during the game, you may PM me the name of two people. After a lynch (or no lynch) occurs that day, a second lynch will happen. The two names you PM me will be the only candidates, and only votes may be posted in the thread. If you don't use this power by the end of Day 3, this power is lost. After all, you are only Assistant to the Managing Supervisor.
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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 9:42 pm

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In post 1787, Cerulean wrote:
In post 1742, Plessiez wrote:Have you read Xenosaga, Tammy?

Because I was sort of agreeing that town!Venmar in the Red Wedding doesn't sound much like Venmar does in this game, but I looked for another town!Venmar game and Xenosaga feels much more like Venmar's posts here.
I kinda see what you mean, maybe about his sarcasm?

Except I see what empire is talking about him missing in this game. His scumhunting was way deeper there. Sure he tunneled on MS for pretty much the entire game but I think that was because of neighborhood paranoia? But if you look he had way deeper reasons for his reads, way less trolling, way more trying to get his townreads to shut up and work with each other to get his scumreads lynched than he's doing here.
I haven't read Xenosaga in much detail. But one of the things that troubled me about Venmar in this game was that his posts didn't really sound anything at all like his posts from the Red Wedding. But his posts in Xenosaga are, if not identical to this game, at least close enough that they seem consistent with the idea that Venmar is town here too.

(That is, if all of Venmar's past town games sounded like The Red Wedding, then that would probably be enough for me to call him scum here. But Xenosaga is close enough, tonally, to make me think I just want to ignore past games and focus on what he's posting here. And I agree that a lot of that is
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In post 1789, Venmar wrote:Every single game I am I get scum read to oblivion and ran up.
And what conclusion do you draw from this observation?
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 9:44 pm

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In post 1794, Shadoweh wrote:Also suggest kayne or Venmar voters collapse one of the wagons onto the other since you guys talk about both equally almost?
I'd rather lynch kanye than Nero. I'd rather lynch Nero than Venmar. So I suggest the Venmar voters do the collapsing?
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In post 1794, Shadoweh wrote:Flipping, I suggest you stop waffling and pick one, there are 12 hours left. You're being kind of ridiculous here.
scum that's afraid day will end in a nl.

What should happen in the next 5-7 posts.

kkb moves his vote to venmar
Plum moves her vote to Venmar
Ple moves his vote to Venmar
ZD moves his vote to Venmar
TH hammers Venmar

Alien jet plane and Rachmarie's husband are also encouraged to move their votes to Venmar.
So (1) scum are afraid of a no lynch, and (2) we should definitely lynch somebody :?. Do you see the problem I'm having with this?

If Venmar is scum, why are scum "afraid of a no lynch"?
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 9:47 pm

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Can somebody (Zdenek or Plum) explain why they care about Nero once having had a role that's a bit (but not a lot) like the role LLD claimed? Why does it matter to this game? I don't understand.
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 9:54 pm

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In post 1808, Plessiez wrote:If Venmar is scum, why are scum "afraid of a no lynch"?
You do know that my wagon is bigger and there's an insane amount of resistance to lynch him and there seems to be little resistance to my lynch. And scum can't nk me so they HAVE to lynch me. My lynch not going through seems like a good reason scum wouldn't want to nl.

You said you were going to read the back and forth between me and Venmar....so what did you think?
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 9:55 pm

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im falling super asleep but iml proba be back before deadline if someone foedoesn't ---[]er
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:01 pm

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HEY NERO TELL ME HOW "LLD IS LIKE CONFIRMED SCUM" AND "SCUM DON'T WANT TO NO-LYNC" FITS TOGETHER
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:09 pm

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Yes 'cause scum would be delighted to use their ability now instead of saving it for later.
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:14 pm

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In post 1813, Nero Cain wrote:Yes 'cause scum would be delighted to use their ability now instead of saving it for later.
Why are you assuming her ability is a one off?
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:16 pm

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Now why don't you tell me why LLD was all "hey guys, lets use my ability!" on d1 but today she hasn't been talking about it?

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In post 1813, Nero Cain wrote:Yes 'cause scum would be delighted to use their ability now instead of saving it for later.
Why are you assuming her ability is a one off?
Mine was in that other game and it just seems like it would be something that's limited.
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:18 pm

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In post 1810, Nero Cain wrote:You do know that my wagon is bigger and there's an insane amount of resistance to lynch him and there seems to be little resistance to my lynch. And scum can't nk me so they HAVE to lynch me. My lynch not going through seems like a good reason scum wouldn't want to nl.
I'm confused by the logic of this. Yes, your wagon is bigger. But Shadoweh was urging people to decide between kanye and Venmar as a counter-wagon. Why would scum want to have a viable counter wagon to you, if you're town? And why are you so confident you'd survive if LLD had to pick who died after a NL?
In post 1810, Nero Cain wrote:You said you were going to read the back and forth between me and Venmar....so what did you think?
Not much? I still don't think you and Venmar are scum together. I still don't understand how you missed the fact your vote for Katsuki would be a hammer vote. And I saw that Venmar was hinting at his/your extra vote a while before he demonstrated it. But other than that, it wasn't very productive.
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:21 pm

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In post 1815, Nero Cain wrote:Mine was in that other game and it just seems like it would be something that's limited.
... your roles are not the same :?. Reasoning like this doesn't make sense.

And:
In post 88, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 87, Zdenek wrote:
In post 21, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Interesting ability I should claim: If the day ends in a no lynch (whether from running out of time, or by a majority vote on the "No Lynch" wagon). I enter 2 people into a duel, and they get to plead their case, and I unilaterally choose to lynch one!
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:23 pm

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In post 1817, Plessiez wrote:
In post 88, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 87, Zdenek wrote:
In post 21, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Interesting ability I should claim: If the day ends in a no lynch (whether from running out of time, or by a majority vote on the "No Lynch" wagon). I enter 2 people into a duel, and they get to plead their case, and I unilaterally choose to lynch one!
How many times does this happen?
No limit. Happens every day.
fair enough. I missed that.
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:25 pm

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the better question is if lld is 100% scum why would scum be afraid of a no lynch, since that would mean scum 100% get to decide the daykill?
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:26 pm

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whtats your issue plum?
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:33 pm

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In post 1816, Plessiez wrote: But Shadoweh was urging people to decide between kanye and Venmar as a counter-wagon.
You are correct here, I thought this was Shadow urging her to decide between me and Venmar.
And why are you so confident you'd survive if LLD had to pick who died after a NL?
Never said this though. No way LLD keeps me alive.
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:37 pm

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In post 1816, Plessiez wrote:
In post 1810, Nero Cain wrote:You said you were going to read the back and forth between me and Venmar....so what did you think?
Not much? I still don't think you and Venmar are scum together. I still don't understand how you missed the fact your vote for Katsuki would be a hammer vote. And I saw that Venmar was hinting at his/your extra vote a while before he demonstrated it. But other than that, it wasn't very productive.
Its not that I didn't realize it---I said I made a mistake....so I mean...w/e. IDK how I'd convince folks I made an honest mistake so..
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 11:11 pm

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VOTE: flipping awesome

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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Sat May 10, 2014 11:14 pm

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