Newbie 1495 (DAY 4) - The One where Everyone got Murdered

[Xayzeck]

Soooo.... I'm clear now, yes?

no shit sherlock

[Xayzeck]

I know it sounds stupid, but we just finished up a game where Xayz was a scum-rb'r in a previous newbie and his play is similar to that game to here. The only difference is that he attempted to defend himself from the lynch this game whereas he didn't do much persuading there to not lynch him, now he's doing effort which it was one of his downfalls there so he's trying to avoid being lynched here.

"this is like his recent scumgame but not like his recent scumgame"

did I get that right?

anw gotta leave my com now will post on phone if i get the chance

[Xayzeck]

im baffled how you ruled out mala to be scum with me

im not saying its a bad move tho

[Xayzeck]

You can put a line through Mala and myself as well. Been after her all game so it would seem unlikely that we are a team wouldn't it?

I've bussed before

[Moratorium]

Note to Regfan for when he wakes up on other side of planet:

I think killing confscum and hoping for RB ends up safer than killing who we think is other scum even if the vibe on them is more RB. I see no outs for BBT based on that "you can cross out the second line too" comment, but there's a greater than 0 chance that Mala just played a good ruse regarding the doc-knowledge. Get us to 3-way-lylo, we get there with a guaranteed clear, potential at guaranteed win if we hit the RB right away with doc-cop alive, worst case scenario 50-50 with good D3 juice.

That said, I'm the clear who fucked up all game, so read what I just said carefully, and make sure my logic is sound.

[Xayzeck]

We dont have confscum though?

[Xayzeck]

Unless im too slow to catch on

[Moratorium]

I'm clear, Reg is clear, BBT infers that both Mala-Xay and Mala-BBT aren't possible, leaving BBT-Xayzeck. BBT self-conf'd.

[Xayzeck]

Ahh so thats how you got conf

Didnt you cone with the malaxay thing not being a thing? Brb reread

[Moratorium]

respell

[Xayzeck]

Wasnt it you who ruled out me-mala?

[Moratorium]

Yes. Do you disagree?

[Moratorium]

You can put a line through Mala and myself

as well.

[Xayzeck]

I get that he would conf himself if HE ruled out me-mala

But you did that? So I'm a little lost

Unless you're saying that "as well" implies he too agrees me-mala isn't the scumteam?

[Regfan]

Mora, I want to do a massive re-read of the entire thread with the knowledge that you're clear before we even consider lynching over "scum-slips" (And I don't even think that's a scum slip but we can discuss it later), I have time tomorrow so I'll get the re-read done then.

What I am bothered by is that BBT is throwing suspicion onto Mora without cc'ing. BBT, if you're doc counterclaim, if you're not Mora is clear so stop it and in this case to you the confirmed scum team would be Xay and Mala so work with us and try and explain how they work as a scum team or why you're town.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, I was trying to throw doubt over Mora's awful reasoning/logic for trying to explain his scummy play this game before I did this but it doesn't seem to have worked as I wanted.

I claim doc.

I protected myself night one. I protected myself because I felt myself or Mora were the two most obvious choices and I didn't want to die (selfish I know but we didn't have an abundance of active/contributing players). I knew once MM claimed that there was a roleblocker, I took the chance that they would roleblock the known PR and start fishing for the other one.

Night 2 was an obvious protect Regfan. Came in and brought life to the game, questioning/pressuring/actually making use of being conf. town. I thought there was a good chance that scum may now try to kill him due to him being a much bigger threat than the cop from the first night, so I protected him.

I feel I can CC now (as opposed to straight away when Mora tried claiming) because I think it's fairly obvious the scum-team is Mala/Mora doe to their early D3 actions. Their sudden coming together coupled with Mala's sensational early read of 'doc' Mora is a sure giveaway. They're backing each other up early on in D3 to put pressure elsewhere.

Claiming doc was Mora's only play after his D2 and his late D1 play as well. He has been pretty meticulous all game and I fully believe he knew his vote for F-16 was a hammer. I don't doubt he had already decided to try and claim doc for D3 when he hammered.

Now, if we go back to the set-up discussion (around post 200) Mala slipped on the set-up. She stated we could have a BP, I questioned this and got no reply from her, only from a town shinobi (who weirdly tried to confirm I was in fact reading the table wrong) when of course I knew I wasn't because I'm the doc. But again, meticulous Mora noticed nothing wrong. After a 're-read' (after dust had settled somewhat) he brought it up again stating that actually something must have happened at that point. He proceeded to pressure only me regarding the set-up (which if you notice I defended myself pretty badly because I couldn't explain how I knew they were wrong but just accepted it because I would have had to out my role). He applied no pressure to Mala whatsoever simply accepting her 'My bad, read the set-up wrong even though I'm an IC comment'.

There were a couple more things I wanted to say but I've forgotten them which is rather annoying.

So, there ya go. Mora conf. scum and Mala is obvious partner.

[Xayzeck]

Bbt is super conf now

So mala/bbt!

[Xayzeck]

Mainly because you can't protect yourself

[Xayzeck]

Hmmm

@mod: Would a hypothetical doc be notified if he attempted to target an invalid target?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Haha, it actually says in the PM that I can't target myself either. Well that's pretty annoying.

I guess I just lost this game for town.

[Moratorium]

Role Pm's are in the OP, dude. No self target is assumed on this site. But you didn't know that.

You lose.

[Moratorium]

Mora, I want to do a massive re-read of the entire thread with the knowledge that you're clear before we even consider lynching over "scum-slips" (And I don't even think that's a scum slip but we can discuss it later), I have time tomorrow so I'll get the re-read done then.

You need to read the CC. He says he protected himself.

[Moratorium]

And then lied about his (public) role PM.

[Moratorium]

vote: BlueBloodedToffee

[Moratorium]

unvote

Actually no, incase goon selfvoter