Open 559:Diffusion of Power - Game Over!

[Micc]

Votecount 1.12

ShadedMelee (5) : bjc, Burning Crystal, reinoe, Salamence20, Young and Beautiful
VictorDeAngelo (4) : Insanity018, ShadedMelee, U SUX, BoroPhil
Salamence20 (3) : VictorDeAngelo, Docthorr, Hershey Kiss
bjc (1) : theelkspeaks

Not Voting (0) :

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to Lynch or No Lynch.

Deadline:

The deadline for Day 1 will be at 4:00 PM CST on June 18th, which is in (expired on 2014-06-18 16:00:00)

Notes

U SUX will be on V/LA from the 10th to 13th.

[Docthorr]

Carp, been that long since I posted?

I'm not convinced on Sala being town, but looking at Victor. He might be a better lynch.
Victor, it is not that he posted more than one line, but the actual content which was scumhunting.

current reads, put them somewhat in order of:
TOWN:
reinoe
BoroPhil
bjc

NULL (some leaning town, some leaning scum, but not enough to put them into one of them):
Young and Beautiful
Burning Crystal
Hershey Kiss
U SUX
insanity018
ShadedMelee
theelkspeaks

SCUM:
Salamence20
VictorDeAngelo

Which means:
VOTE: Victor

*emeraldemon showed me this in my previous newbie game. It helps me organise my reads a bit. I play a lot on gut, because I suck at finding scumtells.

[insanity018]

What is your opinion of ShadedMelee?

[Hershey Kiss]

I'll catch up soonish but I think I'd rather lynch Victor than Shade if that's what it comes down to.

[Docthorr]

What is your opinion of ShadedMelee?

I can't see what makes Shaded so scummy from that one post everybody uses for their case. It made me wary, but no idea why.

btw, my vote put

Victor at L-2

[bjc]

Oh my lord. You give shaded a null read, as well as most other players, and Gabe me a town read while putting a vote on the easiest mislynch this game has to offer.

Way to make it obvious, lol.

[reinoe]

Oh my lord. You give shaded a null read, as well as most other players, and Gabe me a town read while putting a vote on the easiest mislynch this game has to offer.

Way to make it obvious, lol.

eye no rite? We're haft wii scene 'dis b-4?

The interaction between Sala and Elk is very suspicious and I'm fairly certain one of them is scum.
Sala seems to most scummy right now.
There for:
VOTE: Salamence

THIS IS L-1

[bjc]

Anyone wanting to prove their towniness can switch from Victor to shaded.

Regardless of shaded's flip we go with doctor tomorrow. If Victor flipped scum, then we still would go for doctor.

[Docthorr]

If I wanted an easy lynch I would have put Shaded on L-1...

reinoe, I don't appreciate that tone, or did you get drainbamage all of a sudden?

[bjc]

If I wanted an easy lynch I would have put Shaded on L-1...

reinoe, I don't appreciate that tone, or did you get drainbamage all of a sudden?

Yeah why didn't you do that? You would've earned town points for lynching your buddy.

[Docthorr]

So, if I change my vote right now it gives me town points?
That makes no sense.

[BoroPhil]

bjc, did I miss the bit where you were confirmed as town?

SM's 323 is pretty much spot on. YB and Victor are a good top two - when I re-ISO YB it really is quite a leap from 176 when US has 'scumslipped' to 196 when they weren't 'ready to lay my life down'. when you add this to the sucking up to byc/Titus and now the bandwagoning, it's a good call.

YB - at 321 you say you have contributed your reads. where?

SM - would like to hear your thoughts on Insanity and Doctor though - they would be my 4 scummiest atm, with Insanity still out in front.

Don't like doc's 326 - only 2 scum reads which does smack of trying to play safe a bit, and then has the two of the three most active as townreads. trying to curry favour?

however, bjc's 330 in response turns into a pretty horrendous post - considering he is currently on a terrible wagon.

[BoroPhil]

Prod received, VLA lasted a bit longer than expected. Catching up now.

looking forward to this btw

[reinoe]

If I wanted an easy lynch I would have put Shaded on L-1...

reinoe, I don't appreciate that tone, or did you get drainbamage all of a sudden?

OMG LOL. That ad-hominen is completely out of the blue. bjc you know that people will use ad-hominen attack by watching my JKM vs drunkreinoe interaction. docthorr's is literally completely uncalled for and reeks of scum desperation. WOW. Don't get me wrong, I'm not offended at all but the complete randomness of that attack is just oozing with scum.

[Salamence20]

VOTE: BJC

the real scum

[bjc]

wat

You're wasting your vote.

[bjc]

This Victor wagon is quite a joke btw. Why is it still a thing?

Too many players being quiet btw.

[Burning Crystal]

vote: Shaded

You have to be dumb to fall for the Victor trap. Shaded>Doc>Elk doesn't matter game over. IF one of them does flip town, we review and replace.

Guessing three scums at once. And tells "it does not matter which one you choose". Wow, excellent. Misynching only does not matter for scum.

And these are the sheeps: (which should ring the bells, and needs further investigation)

@Young and Beautiful, don't answer my last question about furniture. My other head told me I was not subtle.

VOTE: Shaded

~Titus

VOTE: SM

Why haven't you called this head out fir doing the same repeatedly.

If you want to kill Y and B, you are coming through us.

~ Titus

the wheels on the bus go round and round

Argh, the statement that wound up in 297 are my post.

~Titus

Putting these in our ISO.


bjc, both Victor and Shaded are scum. Elk is the last. Cool your jets. We disagree on the VI being doctorr or Victor. We can sort that out at the end.

~Titus

[reinoe]

Prod received, VLA lasted a bit longer than expected. Catching up now.

[reinoe]

vote: Shaded

You have to be dumb to fall for the Victor trap. Shaded>Doc>Elk doesn't matter game over. IF one of them does flip town, we review and replace.

Guessing three scums at once. And tells "it does not matter which one you choose". Wow, excellent. Misynching only does not matter for scum.

And these are the sheeps: (which should ring the bells, and needs further investigation)

@Young and Beautiful, don't answer my last question about furniture. My other head told me I was not subtle.

VOTE: Shaded

~Titus

VOTE: SM

Why haven't you called this head out fir doing the same repeatedly.

If you want to kill Y and B, you are coming through us.

~ Titus

the wheels on the bus go round and round

Argh, the statement that wound up in 297 are my post.

~Titus

Putting these in our ISO.


bjc, both Victor and Shaded are scum. Elk is the last. Cool your jets. We disagree on the VI being doctorr or Victor. We can sort that out at the end.

~Titus

Why isn't docthorr scum?

[bjc]

Sala, what's wrong with you?

Don't sheep my votes if you think I'm scum.

[Burning Crystal]

I really don't like the vibe bjc is creating around himself.
Short posts/answers filled with sarcasm.
I don't know how he plays, could just be his style, but it makes me question his alignment.

You could call me lazy. It does fit me in general.
I'm also not that good of a player (yet, maybe when I get the hang of it.) I tend to miss stuff and mostly play on gut. When someone makes a statement I agree with, I will sheep it (If that is the "technical" term.). It's the way I am trying to learn this game. See what other people are finding scummy and acting on it.

Nobody Special was in my very fist game as well, but I had to replace out. I kept following it a bit and NS was confusing as hell.
Also, if you read that last game again you can see I had all 3 of them as scum at one point or another.

If some say bjc is town. I will go with it, because I have a hard time reading that kind of play.

I will try to put in more effort, but it is a thing I'm working on. Reading someone and expressing it the "correct way" isn't something that comes natural to me. (the "vibe" reference for example)

So, if I change my vote right now it gives me town points?
That makes no sense.

These posts are spontaneous thought out posts that attempt to solve the game. They aren't evasive, in fact they are transparent entirely. Throw in the third, these posts indicate someone actively trying to work with others and crack the game. Not once did he respond with "Nope... I don't answer questions from scum."

~Titus

[bjc]

Oh yeah, I'm confirming Victor as town. Sorry, if Victor is lynched I'm going to fuck this game up.

So, I'd like to ask everyone to UNVOTE HIM NOW.

Who is the one that asserted Victor might be a VI?

These posts are spontaneous thought out posts that attempt to solve the game.

Not exactly. In fact, that's not how I'm reading it at all. His first post basically says this: I don't like bjc's play, but I'm gonna sit on the fence about it for now and not try to vote a pretty strong player.

They aren't evasive, in fact they are transparent entirely.

Transparency =/= town by ANY measure. That is a mix of appearing reasonable and appeal to emotion (his second post that is).

Throw in the third, these posts indicate someone actively trying to work with others and crack the game.

I don't play the game assuming all scum are stupid like a lot of people seem to do, so I'm not buying this either.

However,

unvote; vote: Doctor

This guy jumped on arguably the easiest mislynch this game has to offer. No bueno, please lynch this guy as soon as possible.

When you guys are ready to stop dicking around, follow.

[Burning Crystal]

BJC, under what universe is Victor town? You are the one who asserted Victor is a VI. You're the one pushing against both major wagons right now.

Doctorr isn't the most seasoned of players. He's not going to have figured out three ways from Sunday to emulate.

There's three scum. You seem hellbent on one with no case whatsoever. The case against Victor and SM is transparently obvious.

~Titus

[reinoe]

BJC, under what universe is Victor town? You are the one who asserted Victor is a VI. You're the one pushing against both major wagons right now.

Doctorr isn't the most seasoned of players. He's not going to have figured out three ways from Sunday to emulate.

There's three scum. You seem hellbent on one with no case whatsoever. The case against Victor and SM is transparently obvious.

~Titus

Why is victor scum and docthorr isn't? They're both posting poorly, docthorr's vote is even more opportunistic than Vic's, and doc has done it twice. Everyone who's voting for Vic should be voting for doc.