Mini 1579: The Great Flavor Caper (Game Over)

[phokdapolees]

Vote Count 1.04

Josh_B (3): Bacde, evilpacman18, Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Elyse (2): Wake88, reinoe
chaoslord54 (2): Mirhawk, Elyse
Slandaar (1): TheYankeeReaper
Bacde (1): Josh_B

Not Voting: Slandaar, Titus, Damon_Gant, chaoslord54

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline in (expired on 2014-06-25 16:00:00)

TheYankeeReaper is V/LA until Sunday

[Wake1]

Really? Nothing else you want to comment on?

Nothing pertinent. Still analyzing thread.

[Josh_B]

I find it curious that you've taken Bacde's D1 vote on Slandarr so seriously.

It was apparent to me that he was fishing for reactions and the initial argument on Slandarr wouldn't make it past 2-3 pages. Your last sentence also bothers me "...and consider you on the block if he flips town." It seems to me you're giving yourself convenient options for a vote down the line if a Slandarr lynch were to occur.

RVS is a serious thing, I admire the skill of other players who use it as a scum hunting tool. My initial PoE is that Bacde was using it to OMGUS and then asking that I totally trust him. The only thing I feel like I can be sure of right now is that Bacde is not on the scum team with Slandar.
The meta that Bacde provided seems legit if it wasn't so old and out of date, but I'm going to be looking for partners so I moved my vote off for now.

I'm not trying to argue that RVS means nothing in the scheme of a mafia game, but it was clear that his vote and reasoning was made to get reactions and not a serious ploy to bandwagon Slandarr all the way to a D1 lynch, something you've failed to realize especially with your next post:

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How would i be sour about that game? It was over a year ago and town won

Then why would you bring it up?

VOTE: bacde

Do you honestly think that he was trying to use a year old post to catch scum on the very first page?

I didn't respond to this right away, because I wanted to see how Bacde is reacting to other players. His continued "too easy" OMGUSing is something I'd shy away from if I were scum. It seemed like he was trying to make a solid meta case on another player. Giving a year old game as a reason for voting someone is off balance, I recognized that immediately and was challenging him on it. Town may have won, but it was Slaander that hammered bacde, Hence the reason for me thinking that bacde was sour over it.

At SKOT, I think you misunderstood my point about RVS being a serious thing. Random Votes aren't serious. I'm trying to say that the stage produces meta which serious thing as scum is often identified by it later in the game, and it often generates the tone of the whole game.

@Mod,

I don't think SKOT is simultaneously voting me and Titus.

Got it, thanks. ~phok

[Bacde]

Voting slandaar wasnt an OMGUS, so i think you are using that term incorrectly

Plus if you had read the game youd see slandaar didnt even push me, he just happened to place a vote on me that happened to be the last vote

Plus, i obviously brought up the game to make a point, not because i was sour. Why are you voting me again?

You do realize that YOUR vote on me is an OMGUS, right?

[Josh_B]

Voting slandaar wasnt an OMGUS, so i think you are using that term incorrectly

Plus if you had read the game youd see slandaar didnt even push me, he just happened to place a vote on me that happened to be the last vote

Plus, i obviously brought up the game to make a point, not because i was sour. Why are you voting me again?

You do realize that YOUR vote on me is an OMGUS, right?

What point? Slandaar was horribly lurking that game, it seems he's upgraded to active lurking. What do you think about Pacman?

<~still scum hunting bro. tactics

[Slandaar]

Josh you need to answer my question.

[Slandaar]

@Slandaar
Could you tell us your thoughts on the game?

[Josh_B]

it wasn't his RVS that gave him away. There are some other patterns there too that are interesting.

What is this?

It's a response to the old game. Some things to consider about you and Bacde. Which I've pretty much already said.

[Slandaar]

I just don't understand.

You need to step by step walk me through it.

[Bacde]

Voting slandaar wasnt an OMGUS, so i think you are using that term incorrectly

Plus if you had read the game youd see slandaar didnt even push me, he just happened to place a vote on me that happened to be the last vote

Plus, i obviously brought up the game to make a point, not because i was sour. Why are you voting me again?

You do realize that YOUR vote on me is an OMGUS, right?

What point? Slandaar was horribly lurking that game, it seems he's upgraded to active lurking. What do you think about Pacman?

<~still scum hunting bro. tactics

Pacman is town

[Bacde]

You however, are not

[Mirhawk]

@mirhawk
what are your thoughts on Elyse and Sharpest?

The tone of Elyse's posts suggests a soft attack on you without taking a solid position. Her vote on chaoslord was ridiculous, especially seeing as how she told him exactly how to remove it. If feels to me like she was looking for a place to temporarily place her vote so she wouldn't have to commit to one of the serious wagons.

Sharpest tried to slip onto Joshes wagon using yankee's reasoning, and when I called him on it he popped smoke and provided nebulous "reasons". I think he had no actual reason to get on that wagon and was trying to get in on the action because either josh looked vulnerable, or he wanted some separation between the two of them.

@Josh
Ignoring slandaars repeated requests for you to answer that question isn't going to make it go away.

[Titus]

We can't have a cop themed game without me... reading now

[phokdapolees]

T S O replaces Damon_Gant.

[Titus]

yay I can town read Slandaar for once

Nvm I think you're town, no need to answer that.

Pacman, these posts concern me very much about your alignment.

First, giving a townread based on the first post? That's townreading far too early.

Second, you withdrew a question based on another early townread. It's like asking townreads for clarification never occurred to you.

VOTE: Pacman

[chaoslord54]

@ Josh I would like to see you give a more detailed answer to what Slandaar is asking you because you avoiding it is coming off as scummy to me.

Josh_B

[chaoslord54]

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Vote Josh_B

[Titus]

@Slandaar
Could you tell us your thoughts on the game?

What is this? You're pushing JoshB for more of an answer and you left this hanging?

I'm starting not to like you either.

[Titus]

@ Josh I would like to see you give a more detailed answer to what Slandaar is asking you because you avoiding it is coming off as scummy to me.

Josh_B

And you skipped Slandaar avoiding Reinoe?

[Slandaar]

What is this? You're pushing JoshB for more of an answer and you left this hanging?

Yes?

I can want clarification of an answer to my question while not wanting to answer a question asked of me.

[Titus]

It's hypocritical and the fact no one noticed is very odd. Also, the fact you didn't call this out in others is odd. I don't like it when you get odd Slandaar. It usually means you are scum.

[Slandaar]

It's hypocritical

This doesn't answer the question. Why can't I;

want clarification of an answer to my question while not wanting to answer a question asked of me.

Perhaps for example, just as an example, I want the answer before I answer.

and the fact no one noticed is very odd. Also, the fact you didn't call this out in others is odd. I don't like it when you get odd Slandaar. It usually means you are scum.

Clarify for me what you think I should have called out please and when.

[Titus]

You should have called out #115 and Chaos should have called you out. Same with Mir.

You are allowed to be hypocritical. It's not a trait associated with being town though. There's no law against it though.

VOTE: Slandaar

[Slandaar]

You should have called out #115

So, you think I should call out someone for not calling me out for being hypocritical when I have shown the 'hypocrisy' means nothing thus I clearly would not call anyone out for such an act. Not to mention you have already called it out so it would be pointless to do so anyways...

and Chaos should have called you out. Same with Mir.

Even if this were true I don't see what this has to do with me.

You are allowed to be hypocritical. It's not a trait associated with being town though. There's no law against it though.

So, to summarise; I have asked you to explain what is wrong with the hypocrisy and you respond by saying it is hypocritical. That is not an answer.

Why, Titus, can I not wait for an answer to my question before answering a question asked of me AFTER I asked my question?

You are just using a ridiculous buzzword that is not a scum trait in the first place.

VOTE: Slandaar

VOTE: Titus

[phokdapolees]

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