Mini 1579: The Great Flavor Caper (Game Over)

[reinoe]

I'm not going to respond to reinoe's entire wall because it boils down to this:

To say newbscum would go after JoshB and newbtown wouldn't is ok, but you have to take into consideration JoshB's alignment. If JoshB is scum, then what you are saying doesn't make sense. So you assumed JoshB was town in your statement, and that is scummy because it looks like you already know he is town.

How do I assume josh B is town? Let me break it down in a rudimentary chart...

Chaoslord newbtown=doesn't vote josh at the time because he wants clarification
this has no bearing on whether josh is town or scum.

chaoslord newbscum=does vote josh at the time because it's opportunistic
this would make josh town.

I really don't know how to say it any other way. You're the only person who's insinuating anyone knows anyone's alignment.

p: edit. If I know josh is town, and I'm scum why aren't I now pushing for his mislynch!!! josh's responses have certainly been shaky enough for more votes. Good god, why don't you point those powers of perception at yourself. I'm not sure on josh and I'm certainly not going to put a vote on someone I'm not sure on.

Oh wait, if you're sure both me and josh are scum why aren't you voting for josh. OMG OBSCUM TEAM IN SLANDAAR/ELYSE.

[reinoe]

edit: omg that post is full of soppy formating and weird wording. I'm hungover you guys. No more posting today.

[phokdapolees]

Vote Count 1.13

Josh_B (4): Bacde, evilpacman18, Sharpest-knife-on-tree, Mirhawk
Slandaar (3): TheYankeeReaper, Titus, reinoe
Bacde (2): Josh_B, Wake88
Titus (1): Slandaar
reinoe (1): Elyse

Not Voting: T S O, chaoslord54

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline in (expired on 2014-06-25 16:00:00)

[Wake1]

So you admit that he wasn't manipulative in the first place?

Hm. I'm not liking this Scummy defense of someone else. VOTE: bacde

I question his comment about being unintentionally manipulative. Because it's in question, I can't confidently affirm that he was or wasn't doing so. But... I think you know that.

Welcome to the realm of obvtown Wake. No one is unitentionally manipulative. You also have your vote on scum.

I am asking you to switch onto even stronger scum with a bigger wagon. Then tomorrow you me and Reinoe can shred Bacde to his core, likely confirming his scum status.

Then we'll shred Elyse.

Your annilhator beam, Reinoe's jaws of doom, my interstellar logic tsunamis... even if I am wrong, we still will win.

GG. Game solved.

I will chill with the inlaws for Dad's day. Expect slower responses.

Is this Good Titus or Evil Titus?

HRM...

[T S O]

#311 is really town.

I kinda disagree on Bacde-scum.

[Mirhawk]

JB's lurking is paying off, as it appears that now half the town has forgotten about him. In post 40 you claim your vote was on other "patterns" and not his RVS vote. Why did you say that seeing as how you've decided that the reason now is completely his RVS vote?

Bacde is fine, I'm more worried about reinoe and Elise. I get scum vibes off both of them.

[Elyse]

How do I assume josh B is town? Let me break it down in a rudimentary chart...

Chaoslord newbtown=doesn't vote josh at the time because he wants clarification
this has no bearing on whether josh is town or scum.

chaoslord newbscum=does vote josh at the time because it's opportunistic
this would make josh town.

I really don't know how to say it any other way. You're the only person who's insinuating anyone knows anyone's alignment.

Saying that newbscum would vote josh insinuates josh is town. It doesn't matter if chaos is or isn't, but saying that in the first place insinuates it.

p: edit. If I know josh is town, and I'm scum why aren't I now pushing for his mislynch!!! josh's responses have certainly been shaky enough for more votes. Good god, why don't you point those powers of perception at yourself. I'm not sure on josh and I'm certainly not going to put a vote on someone I'm not sure on.

Maybe because you would look opportunistic? Maybe because scum don't push every mislynch possible? Maybe because it contradicts your other posts?

Oh wait, if you're sure both me and josh are scum why aren't you voting for josh. OMG OBSCUM TEAM IN SLANDAAR/ELYSE.

I'm not sure josh is scum??? Never said that.

[Titus]

@Elyse, I wasn't referring to Bacde's logic on Pacman. But to further that point.. what logic? Do you have daychat with Bacde? (The reason for this question will become obvious after Elyse answers.) I was referring to the whole "unintentionally manipulative" debate. That is relevant because it places Wake in obvtown status.

@Slandaar, you have refused to post opinions for days. By the time I'm begging for opinions, a player almost certainly has gone days without posting.

@Wake, use your annihilator beam. Sort me. Have me do jumping chicken dances. I don't care. You're town.

[Titus]

#311 is really town.

I kinda disagree on Bacde-scum.

Do you mean 310? How is it townie?

[T S O]

nope, I meant #311.

[Titus]

@Bacde
I was trying to choose the best words to reflect a complete answer for Wake88 and I think that when I was skimming through I caught some of the keywords from one of your posts and they just popped up as good words to make my point with. Did not mean to copy you though

How does this make Bacde town?

[Titus]

JB's lurking is paying off, as it appears that now half the town has forgotten about him. In post 40 you claim your vote was on other "patterns" and not his RVS vote. Why did you say that seeing as how you've decided that the reason now is completely his RVS vote?

Bacde is fine, I'm more worried about reinoe and Elise. I get scum vibes off both of them.

Mirhawk, I haven't. Scum are copying a strategy I used in another game.

A) Two scum attack each other early with weak reasons then town read each other Day 1. (Venmar + Titus) compare to (Bacde + Slandaar).

B) Lynch an easy target, preferably one that makes himself easy. (TheSilverBard) & (JoshB/EvilPacman)

C) After that, create chaos and buddy with leader status.


Textbook mini 1539.

[Elyse]

After pacman was prodded, Bacde said the slot might be scum. In my experience, pacman doesn't lurk so I assumed he was calling him scum for that.

[T S O]

@Bacde
I was trying to choose the best words to reflect a complete answer for Wake88 and I think that when I was skimming through I caught some of the keywords from one of your posts and they just popped up as good words to make my point with. Did not mean to copy you though

How does this make Bacde town?

I ...never said it did. Bacde is Town in general.

[Bacde]

Vote: Josh B

That's not what I want to know. I want to know specifically WHY you voted for bacade this game. I don't really care what he did in that other game unless it directly relates to why you voted for him in this one.

I voted for Bacde for fake claiming to know RVS Meta. But I already said that didn't I? I know that there are RVS meta experts, I don't agree with people that are pretending to be.
Game was a year old. Maybe a false flag, so I unvoted, but still didn't like it. Second time OMGUS, but I feel comfortable with it.

I'm going to be watching to see if patterns show up. Like Slandaar lurking so hard, and bacde telling everyone to sheep him trying to lynch towns, I'm sure he should have learned his lesson by now. But it looks like he hasn't, or he's just scum.

Bacde is scum, throwing a hissy fit that his mislynch of choice isn't going through and traction is being gained on Slandaar. Join us on Slandaar. Bacde will be harder for you to get through given your wagon is an OMGUS and has fewer people. Also, if you join on ours, we get a shit ton more information.

[Titus]

So you're assuming Bacde's logic, assuming that lurking is scummy by pacman because meta without verifying...you know that's sound...bullshit. Yet you cannot accept me thinking Reinoe is town because of the fact I have a town pm and she's reacting like me therefore obvtown. Sounds like you have a built in bias towards accepting whatever Bacde says, or daychat but you realized Bacde posted no logic when I asked that question.

I also take note that you side stepped the daychat question.

[Titus]

@Bacde
I was trying to choose the best words to reflect a complete answer for Wake88 and I think that when I was skimming through I caught some of the keywords from one of your posts and they just popped up as good words to make my point with. Did not mean to copy you though

How does this make Bacde town?

I ...never said it did. Bacde is Town in general.

That's what I thought you were saying. Why is Bacde town to you? Also comment on Slandaar and Elise please.

[Slandaar]

(Bacde + Slandaar).

I don't town read Bacde you do like making things up.

More Titus votes.

[Titus]

(Bacde + Slandaar).

I don't town read Bacde you do like making things up.

More Titus votes.

Oh really? So you scumread him then and think we're buddies? A null answer is unacceptable given the content he's posted btw.

[Slandaar]

@Slandaar, you have refused to post opinions for days. By the time I'm begging for opinions, a player almost certainly has gone days without posting.

What?

I don't even care what you are saying anymore. It's just such nonsense you are dying today.

[T S O]

@Bacde
I was trying to choose the best words to reflect a complete answer for Wake88 and I think that when I was skimming through I caught some of the keywords from one of your posts and they just popped up as good words to make my point with. Did not mean to copy you though

How does this make Bacde town?

I ...never said it did. Bacde is Town in general.

That's what I thought you were saying. Why is Bacde town to you? Also comment on Slandaar and Elise please.

Elyse's recent post was decently convincing, so I'm leaning Elyse. Reinoe's reply will have to be good.

Bacde just is Town, I might ISO him in a bit.

Slandaar's maybe-scum, it doesn't feel like town-Slandaar.

[Titus]

After pacman was prodded, Bacde said the slot might be scum. In my experience, pacman doesn't lurk so I assumed he was calling him scum for that.

And if I had evidence of lurker town Pacman?

[T S O]

How is it taking this long to lynch slandaar? Anyone who does not vote slandaar after this post is confirmed mafia buddies with slandaar.

(Im looking at you, knife, who conveniently voted with "proof" of randomness)

I had the same reaction to SKOT's post.

I'll keep it in mind, but it wasn't his RVS that gave him away. There are some other patterns there too that are interesting.

So basically, you pressured me for a link for no reason?

No. I pressured you for the existence of the link, not necessarily the content of the link. But the content of the link suggests that you are still a little sour about that game, and possibly trying to use it to invent scuminess when there isn't much to go on. Until, I feel like there's more likelyhood that what you say is true, or I feel like there isn't anything else to go on, I'll be looking else where and consider you on the block if he flips town.

UNVOTE: UNVOTE

How would i be sour about that game? It was over a year ago and town won

#47 is really bad and he calls it out.

[Slandaar]

Oh really? So you scumread him then and think we're buddies? A null answer is unacceptable given the content he's posted btw.

I am undecided.

So, I guess null but worded differently.

[T S O]

that's quite possibly the shittiest case I've ever made but I don't care. He just reminds me of me because I'm agreeing with everything he's saying.