Mini 1578: Lord of the Rings!! - GaME OVeR

Guyett · Post Post #750 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:51 pm

Ok aronis both votes are on you now.

Someone can hammer.

VOTE: aronis

Guyett · Post Post #751 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:54 pm

In post 742, Protogonos wrote:Hmm... I think I may actually want an FH lynch. Unless Rach is scum, FH is like for sure scum. That being said, I am not feeling so good about Aronis' claim. Plus the vanillaised, which excuses more claims that could help sort the game. Getting a guilty in mylo is also kind of sketch.

So you think Aronis and FH are scum.... and you know I'm gonna die tonight... and town has mass claimed and there is no outed roles that are held by a trusted townie that might give some help to town... Like no lynch can ONLY FUCK OVER TOWN NOW!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for effectively claiming not town btw

Aronis · Post Post #752 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:02 pm

Ugh. Well If I get hammered anytime soon, gg guys.

VOTE: sns

Protogonos · Post Post #753 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:13 pm

In post 751, Guyett wrote:So you think Aronis and FH are scum.... and you know I'm gonna die tonight... and town has mass claimed and there is no outed roles that are held by a trusted townie that might give some help to town... Like no lynch can ONLY FUCK OVER TOWN NOW!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for effectively claiming not town btw

How? Your vote is not necessary for town to win. If you die tonight, we can lynch someone tomorrow anyway. What possible advantage is there to lynching today? Do you have anything else you want to tell us? Are you secretly indispensable to victory?

Guyett · Post Post #754 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:16 pm

what value is ther in a no lynch?

Protogonos · Post Post #755 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:18 pm

Possibly increased clarity tomorrow.

Guyett · Post Post #756 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:22 pm

How?
What will happen over night that will help town?
we still lose if a wrong decision is made!!!

Guyett · Post Post #757 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:23 pm

Like its pretty obvious you aint town proto now. does your wincon align with towns?

Guyett · Post Post #758 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:30 pm

Like one of Aronis/SNS is guaranteed scum and everyone in the fucking game thinks FH is scum. What town motivation is there in no lynching, losing a conf townie and going into tomorrow with EXACTKLY THE FUCKING SAME INFO AS TODAY

RachMarie · Post Post #759 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:33 pm

Since we all think FH is scum lets vote for them duh

Guyett · Post Post #760 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:35 pm

but Aronis is a better lynch

Guyett · Post Post #761 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:36 pm

do it!!!! drop the hammer

Guyett · Post Post #762 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:38 pm

one is scum. you'll haev to make that decision at some stage

Aronis · Post Post #763 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:39 pm

Guyett. How can me/sns, failhydra, and proto be scum?

Aronis · Post Post #764 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:41 pm

In post 757, Guyett wrote:Like its pretty obvious you aint town proto now. does your wincon align with towns?

Just thinking, but Bilbo wasn't necessarily always good, the ring seemed to be corrupting him. Is it possible that he is some sort of survivor or maybe like smeagol if he gets the ring?

Guyett · Post Post #765 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:43 pm

I suspect proto is 3rd party... prob sauroman and his wincon involves getting the ring. His role claim is prob somewhat accurate... he visits people each night and if he finds the ring he wins.

Aronis · Post Post #766 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:49 pm

Which explains the wanting to no lynch. So he gets an extra night to try and find the ring. Is there any possible way town wins then? Becuase we lynch mafia/proto today, you die tonight, tomorrow there is two town and proto/scum or two scum. So is it just a competition between the third party and mafia now? It explains the town PRs though, considering a three man scum team and two potential third party.

Aronis · Post Post #767 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:50 pm

Wait, do we know there is three scum? What if there is just one and proto?

Protogonos · Post Post #768 (ISO) » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:54 pm

In post 757, Guyett wrote:Like its pretty obvious you aint town proto now. does your wincon align with towns?

In post 765, Guyett wrote:I suspect proto is 3rd party... prob sauroman and his wincon involves getting the ring. His role claim is prob somewhat accurate... he visits people each night and if he finds the ring he wins.

What are you talking about? How could I possibly be third-party? I am not an SK; all NKs are accounted for. I am clearly not a Jester/other bastard role. I am not a survivor, otherwise I would have taken one of the many opportunities to end the game. Having a wincon depending on finding the Ring is basically a bastard role and is ridiculous anyway. I am town-aligned. I get additional powers if I obtain the Ring.

I really do not understand what the fuck is wrong with you people. There is absolutely no drawback to No Lynching. At worst, the lynch pool is reduced tomorrow. At best, we get more info. Your insistence on lynching today is completely irrational. Until you can articulate some benefit to lynching today, I see no reason to take an increased risk of mislynching.

In post 756, Guyett wrote:How?
What will happen over night that will help town?
we still lose if a wrong decision is made!!!

Uh...Surely you can think of reasons, both general and specific to this game, that having an extra day and fewer lynch candidates would be helpful.

snscompt1 · Post Post #769 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:30 am

Proto, are you making the argument that Guyett isnt conftown?

Guyett · Post Post #770 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:54 am

In post 768, Protogonos wrote:
In post 757, Guyett wrote:Like its pretty obvious you aint town proto now. does your wincon align with towns?

In post 765, Guyett wrote:I suspect proto is 3rd party... prob sauroman and his wincon involves getting the ring. His role claim is prob somewhat accurate... he visits people each night and if he finds the ring he wins.
What are you talking about? How could I possibly be third-party? I am not an SK; all NKs are accounted for. I am clearly not a Jester/other bastard role. I am not a survivor, otherwise I would have taken one of the many opportunities to end the game. Having a wincon depending on finding the Ring is basically a bastard role and is ridiculous anyway. I am town-aligned. I get additional powers if I obtain the Ring.

I really do not understand what the fuck is wrong with you people. There is absolutely no drawback to No Lynching. At worst, the lynch pool is reduced tomorrow. At best, we get more info. Your insistence on lynching today is completely irrational. Until you can articulate some benefit to lynching today, I see no reason to take an increased risk of mislynching.

In post 756, Guyett wrote:How?
What will happen over night that will help town?
we still lose if a wrong decision is made!!!
Uh...Surely you can think of reasons, both general and specific to this game, that having an extra day and fewer lynch candidates would be helpful.

I'm sorry but I'm not seeing much town motivation in pushing for a no lynch when the only investigative role in the game is held by Aronis (I should say was as he claims to have been vanillirized) and he is one of the people being suspected for being scum.
From my point of view it looks like you are only delaying things to try find the ring and we've already had someone who had an alignment change pon finding the ring... who's to say my suspicions aren't accurate.

You say at worst the lynchpool is reduced tomorrow... NO IT FUCKING ISN'T!!! I'M NOT IN THE LYNCHPOOL!!!!!!
At best we get more info??? NO YOU MIGHT GET THE FUCKING RING!!! There is no other info to be got.
We had scum caught between 2 people and we won't be getting any info to make the decision any easier, I;ll just be dead twiddling my thumbs while you lot fuck around for another 2 weeks "making a decision". If I'm going to lose I want it to be on my own terms.

Rach can't be scum with SNS btw

snscompt1 · Post Post #771 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:17 am

Eh. Not quite. I will withhold why for now though.

RachMarie · Post Post #772 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:20 am

Guyett what about FH? Seriously I think we need to lynch them.

We have a 1 v 1 with sns and aronis and have to figure out which one is scum and lying and which one is town and telling the truth. So I can understand wanting to hold off on them, but pretty much everyone seems to see FH as scum so let us lynch them and then tomorrow we should have a better handle on which of the two (sns, aronis) is scum.

snscompt1 · Post Post #773 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:25 am

Rach, lynching FH makes no sense. Sure we all think hes scum but we coukd be wrong and its you or Proto or even Guyett because has his second vote ever been on the same person at a vote count?

We have guaranteed scum which means a 50/50 guess. If we lynch Hydra its a 25% chance.

Protogonos · Post Post #774 (ISO) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:47 am

In post 770, Guyett wrote:I'm sorry but I'm not seeing much town motivation in pushing for a no lynch when the only investigative role in the game is held by Aronis (I should say was as he claims to have been vanillirized) and he is one of the people being suspected for being scum.

Because there is literally no downside.

From my point of view it looks like you are only delaying things to try find the ring and we've already had someone who had an alignment change pon finding the ring... who's to say my suspicions aren't accurate.

Yep. Why would I not? It gives me a town-beneficial power. Plus, finding the Ring will mean scum has been identified, at least as far as I am aware. Scum would either have to kill me or kill a conftown double-voter. Remind me again why that is a bad scenario?

You say at worst the lynchpool is reduced tomorrow... NO IT FUCKING ISN'T!!! I'M NOT IN THE LYNCHPOOL!!!!!!

Then you are irrelevant anyway.

At best we get more info??? NO YOU MIGHT GET THE FUCKING RING!!! There is no other info to be got.

1) That would be info
2) Info extends beyond night actions

We had scum caught between 2 people and we won't be getting any info to make the decision any easier, I;ll just be dead twiddling my thumbs while you lot fuck around for another 2 weeks "making a decision". If I'm going to lose I want it to be on my own terms.

Right. So the actual issue here is that you want to stay alive. I get that. I really do. But I simply do not care.