Open 555 - Pick Your Poison (Game Over!)

[AGar]

The question was answered by someone else, also, as an alt, I don;'t care to discuss anything else about other account's history but I'll just say 'I've done okay as scum and have certainly enough experience playing as scum to not be considered a newb.'

Now can you answer my question?

Yeah sure.

I don't think you fully grasp survival strategies and trying to last as long as possible as scum. You're not grasping the fact that as scum in neil's situation, you want to minimize ALL risk involved with a claim when it's already a gambit. That means if a tracker has to claim his target, and he can either take a 0% shot of being countered by claiming to have tracked a scumbuddy, or take a 25% of being countered by claiming to have tracked someone who whoops turns out they're the cop or the vig (who in theory could have stacked their shot with the scumkill and no one would be the wiser), you take 0% every time. If you're gunning for survival, you make the best percentage play

for

survival.

[singersigner]

Votecount

RachMarie (4) - Knell, Sharpest-Knife-On-Tree, AGar, RedCoyote
Squirrel Girl (1) - RachMarie
Sharpest-Knife-On-Tree (1) - VictorDeAngelo


not voting (2) - reinoe, Squirrel Girl

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

[RachMarie]

I am VT

Knell is conf town
Feel pretty good about Agar being town
RC is an un CCed Vig claim

That leaves SKOT

VOTE: SKOT

Sorry about that SG I totally misread your claim, bah.

[reinoe]

Rach can't be scum... I tracked her.

I told who I tracked already, though I'm not sure if that really confirms Rach as town.

VOTE: Rachmarie

[AGar]

So unless someone else has a PR claim (I'm a VT, btw. That's probably been heavily implied at this point but for the sake of completeness, there is my claim,) we're in solid shape.

Hey look a hammer.

[Knell]

I hope it's gg, but Victor could be right. But I'm not sure. I just got out of a game where the primary thing that kept me from voting scum until right near the end was that they weren't playing good enough to be scum.

[Knell]

While a little late I'd like if Skot were shot. but it's up to your discretion RC, I think you made the right move by not shooting day 1.

[RachMarie]

Definitely look at SKOT tomorrow

And yep there is still scum out there I really am VT.

[reinoe]

While a little late I'd like if Skot were shot. but it's up to your discretion RC, I think you made the right move by not shooting day 1.

Seconding this, if you're taking requests RC.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

feel free to shoot me if it is not Rach. Then it will be down to AGar and SG. Of course if you don't shoot me then whoever left of those 2 will be scum if rach is not. Of course I could certainly say this as scum also. I think we got it right though...

[RachMarie]

I have been hammered, it is not me

[singersigner]

Votecount

RachMarie (5) - Knell, Sharpest-Knife-On-Tree, AGar, RedCoyote, reinoe

Sharpest-Knife-On-Tree (2) - VictorDeAngelo, RachMarie

not voting (1) - Squirrel Girl

That's a lynch!

[singersigner]

RachMarie has been lynched. She was a

Vanilla Townie.

Any and all night actions must be submitted to me by (expired on 2014-06-22 12:00:00).

[singersigner]

Flavor flavor flavor

Knell was killed. He was an innocent child.

VictorDeAngelo was shot. He was a mafia goon.

Town win!

/colors
/bold
/officially over

[Squirrel Girl]

Yay! Good shot.

[VictorDeAngelo]

Sigh, good game. Well done town.

[Knell]

Neat. good job victor/rc.

[Knell]

Don't shoot. I'm immune to bullets.

This turned out to be false.

[reinoe]

Victor was also an acceptable lynch. Great job Red Coyote. My ego demands I be impressed with myself for coming up with the VIG shoot neil plan although, I don't know how much my input really would have mattered. Shooting neil seemed almost required. But overall I have to say town played only OK. Our vig had to kill 2/3 of the scum for us. And I was scumreading our vig. OOps.

[Squirrel Girl]

Vig shot Neil because Neil claimed and then you claimed.
Neil claimed because he was going to be lynched.
That was a combo effort any way you cut it.

[AGar]

Woo. Go team us.

Had neil not been shot, I probably would've come in here full fury demanding he be lynched, fwiw.

[RedCoyote]

I wish I had been able to formulate a more competent case on Victor during this game. As I stated multiple times over the course of the game, my heart just wasn't in this one due primarily to the Mod abandoning this game as well as the site as a whole. I really appreciate Llama and singer stepping up for us to continue it, however. The amount of replacements needed for the game as a whole was disheartening as well. The scumteam played pretty well, I think, sans TSO/neil making some questionable moves. I thought neil would've been better served to have claimed cop rather than tracker. I suspect I'd have shot him either way, but I think there would've been more wiggle room with that.

I am kind of curious as to why Abel was killed over Knell though. I definitely understand that Abel was/is a strong player, but that seemed unnecessarily risky to me. Anyone on the scumteam want to expand?

Anyway, good team effort, town. AGar/SG especially helped in the sense that they turned their respective role slots around and came across as really town. gg everyone.

[singersigner]

By the way, there's no dead QT because I didn't really inherit one and didn't care much about making one three days in, lol.

[ToastyToast]

Yay! Great job guys. First game in while that I actually felt like being engaged in.
With regards to Knell not being kill, I don't find it that surprising. Scum teams don't necessarily kill based on how confirmed someone is. And do you really think Abelcain would have been a potential mislynch?

[RedCoyote]

I don't think Abel would've been a potential mislynch, but I

know

Knell wouldn't have been.