There has been very little interaction between Clusk and
The only other post Clusk even mentions blue is when he's giving Babi a hard time about claiming and voting for blue.In post 269, Clusk92 wrote:Blueheaven, it would be much better if you came on and defended yourself
It was less that he improved (since he hasn't really done much at all) and more that the others started sticking out more to me. When I was answering Babi's question about my comment on Andrew "not knowing how to scum" and doing the re-read, I'm leaning a bit more towards naievete than scum (though he's not off my radar).In post 277, Alina wrote:Earlier on, you said you thought Andrew was your top scumread. Then Babi came out with his JK claim and you switched over to Huntress/Clusk. What did Andrew do that improved you?
I must be going crazy - I swear that there were posts by both you and Alina about something that I can't find for the life of me. I just reread the entire thread twice, and can't find anything by anyone that reflects what I was thinking, so it's not like I was thinking of the wrong person. I'll be looking through again tomorrow just to be sure, but if it's not there I'll retract that entire part of my argument.In post 279, BabiSoup wrote:I didn't bring up any L-1 deal. Shaddowez, I thought you said Andrew was both clueless and mafia?
That was almost a week ago, and at the time I was of that opinion. Please see my posts since then for my thoughts since (especially since Alina already specifically asked me about me having him as a scum read).In post 208, shaddowez wrote:I'm currently of the opinion that Andrew is mafia and clueless
My question to Babi wasn't based on me thinking he was scum, I just don't like votes without substance. I got scum vibes at first when there wasn't much to go on but since he has seemed a lot more town imo by the end of day 1, his JK backed that up and I have no doubt he is 100% town now due to no counter-claim.In post 276, shaddowez wrote:Most of my concern withCluskis what I addressed in post #117
Additionally, the only two people he's had scumreads on are myself andBabi. If Babi is town like he claims, that'sat leasta 50% townie that he's scumreading, assuming you still think I'm scum. His only vote on Day 1 was on me. He then proceeds to question Babi on his vote in Day 2:
There has been very little interaction between Clusk andblueheaven. Clusk's most recent post wasThe only other post Clusk even mentions blue is when he's giving Babi a hard time about claiming and voting for blue.In post 269, Clusk92 wrote:Blueheaven, it would be much better if you came on and defended yourself
I posted aboutHuntressa short while ago because I had mentioned I would yesterday, but after going through ISOs and re-reads, I'm not getting the same sense I did yesterday. I want to hear more from blue before jumping on the bandwagon, but my current instinct is that blue andCluskare scumbuddies.
ATF, nice. Very manipulative.In post 274, shaddowez wrote:Out of curiosity - what's going to happen when you're wrong again?In post 272, Alina wrote:Okay. I thought it over today and I think that because I was SO sure Neil was gonna flip scum, that when he didn't, it really damaged my confidence in my reads and so I became kind of okay with just kind of swapping them all over the place because I wasn't confident enough and I was afraid of being wrong again.
Early on I had a few ideas who vague ideas who scum were based on simple stuff such as the sarcasm as you don't really have much to go off and I find it hard to understand some cases of sarcasm on the internet.In post 277, Alina wrote: I could seeCluskbeing scum -- he posted a lot to begin with, then afterwards started going UTR. This kind of left an impression in my mind that he was more active and contributing more than he really was, when in reality he's just been...there. Piping in every once and a while with pretty much just common sense.
I'm vanilla.
Last I checked an uncced jk would put either a bp or vanilla as the other known town roles. Which of those require reading for you to tell us the jail keep would have done nothing for you except save you from a night kill?In post 289, hayatoBL wrote:So, somebody claimed to jailed me last Night, the way I understood it.
tbh, I haven't read until the end. While I'm reading can you or anybody else show me the relevant post, to which I need to make a reponse. That would be tidy. But only if there is a need for me to address those quickly.
If not then I would prefer to read in order.
You keep saying that like its supposed to mean fuck all.
By read, I meant continue reading from whatever page I'm currently at.In post 291, Formerfish wrote:Last I checked an uncced jk would put either a bp or vanilla as the other known town roles. Which of those require reading for you to tell us the jail keep would have done nothing for you except save you from a night kill?In post 289, hayatoBL wrote:So, somebody claimed to jailed me last Night, the way I understood it.
tbh, I haven't read until the end. While I'm reading can you or anybody else show me the relevant post, to which I need to make a reponse. That would be tidy. But only if there is a need for me to address those quickly.
If not then I would prefer to read in order.
I was waiting to see what he said in response to my post before deciding whether to move. And note that I said heIn post 271, Formerfish wrote:@Huntress- If you think that Shadow is the better lynch for the day, why aren't you voting them?
Yep, I usually pay more attention to those whose posts make me suspicious of them. The one line that I quoted in 165 was my reason for voting BH at that time, but it was not the first thing I had raised with him as we were having a ongoing discussion both before and after that point. In fact I don't think I did, as you claim, "give more detail in later posts".In post 273, shaddowez wrote:HuntressWhile you're not exactly tunneling on blueheaven, you do seem to be paying more attention to him than a good portion of the town. You voted for him day 1 with no reasoning given outside of your one line.You do give more detail in later posts, but not at the time of the vote.In post 165, Huntress wrote:So you're comfortable with pushing his lynch, but you want to give yourself a let-out if he proves to be town? Or are you just rolefishing with your request for a claim?
Not sure what my question to Babi has to do with this? For the rest see my reply to Fish above.In post 273, shaddowez wrote:Here you're asking Babi why he's not voting for Neil, and as Fish pointed out if you think I'm a better lynch target than blue, why aren't you voting for me?
You were a null read to me until your post 234 which set off my scumdar as it seemed very non-committal. That's why I said what I did in my next post after that and then addressed it in more detail in my following post.In post 273, shaddowez wrote:As for voting for me, you don't even seem to pay attention to me until Babi mentions thinking I'm blue's partner, in the same post he claims.
For your first example, I don't have a photographic memory, nor do I keep that sort of thing in my notes, so when Alina asked me why I left it out I just made the point that it wasn't deliberate. On looking back for something else I saw that I had in fact said it so I commented on it. As to the second example, the answer to the first part of that question was implied in the answer to the second part. Neither of these back up your claim that "She also seems to read/write/remember what is convenient for her current post." so I can only conclude that I was right in thinking that it was just mudslinging.In post 273, shaddowez wrote:As for my comments about your posts, there are two examples. The first is about the previous game with Fish, when Alina missed that you had inferred you were scum. You responded by saying you didn't think it mattered, then posted again to say that you had in fact inferred it. It's not a major thing, but it is a case of you not keeping your own facts in order.
The second is in regards to one of Fish's earlier posts directed at you. He asked you a two part question, to which you only answered one part. I failed at quoting the entire thing, but when I asked you about the part that you didn't answer, you responded by saying I quoted your answer, which was still only the one part.
I didn't mention Shaddowez earlier because I didn't find him scummy until he posted his reads. My calling Andrew scum was a kneejerk reaction to the hammer which I dropped in my next post, during twilight, not overnight.In post 275, Alina wrote:I do think it's interestingHuntressnever even once mentioned you until her post #214(her 16th post.) Now she seems to be onboard with you beingblueheaven'sscumbuddy, and is okay with lynching you too. Also, yesterday, she noted that "it's looking likeAndrewandBlueheavenare the scum." Now, though,Andrewisn't scum and is just low hanging fruit. Switched up overnight.