NY 174: Oldy Mafia 2 (Game Over)
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Sorry for delay, in the middle of skype mafia.
Votecount
Glork (11) -- undo, Kublai Khan, VitaminR, Green Crayons, Yosarian2, Albert B. Rampage, Untrod Tripod, DrippingGoofball, chamber, CrashTextDummie, mathcam
CrashTextDummie (1) -- SpyreX
mathcam (3) -- Cogito Ergo Sum, Bookitty, Glork
DrippingGoofball (4) -- Save the Dragons, petroleumjelly, Porochaz, Sotty7
Not voting: MrBuddyLee
20 alive, 11 to lynch
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Glork - Vanilla Townie - lynched day 2
Night 2, with a 72 hour deadline.Last edited by Patrick on Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:29 am, edited 2 times in total.Primpod 11:13 pm
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face-
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While you were busy watching Belgium-USA, the following happened:
CrashTextDummie - Vanilla Townie - killed night 2
Untrod Tripod - Vanilla Townie - killed night 2
With now a mere 17 players alive, it will take 9 votes to lynch someone. You have until the 15th of July.Primpod 11:13 pm
chamber can you please come to ukmeet
i would love to finally touch your face-
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Green Crayons Jack of All Trades
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If that was a vig who killed UT, you should feel bad about your poor decisions."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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SpyreXshould post something. Something really, really good."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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Patrick your end of day votecount is inaccurate.
Vote: DGBI'm still pretty sure she's going to flip red so I'm going to get right to it.-
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Yeah, forgot to add in my hammer vote.
I don't think DGB is a horrible choice, but I'm feeling a little gun-shy about my reads given that Glork and UT were both town.
GC: A vig on UT is probably the most likely explanation by far, right? Or is a multiple-kill scum group a plausible option these days?
My goal for the early day today is to go through and look at people I haven't looked at much yet. For example, almost no one to date has said anything against Yos, and that makes me a little nervous.-
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Sotty7 That Damn Good
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Spryex should die is what he should do.
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I wouldn't expect them to be making kills that are -bad- for them, so yes? I expect them to be making the kills that are best for them though, and them making safe kills suggest they don't feel very threatened by the more vocal players, either because they are wrong, or because they are the scum themselves.In post 1763, mathcam wrote:Isn't safe good for them?Taking a break from the site.-
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@MBL:
Please explain this:In post 757, MrBuddyLee wrote:
I'm trying to figure out who's the most likely scum amongst the leading wagons, butPJ wrote:MrBuddyLee, your vote is on Kublai Khan (replacing Tigris). Your vote has been there the entire game. Kindly move it or make a compelling argument for why we should lynch Kublai Khan.I can't escape the feeling that Tigris/KublaiKhan is equally if not more likely scum.The slot reeks of "I don't care who gets lynched as long as it's not me." And despite claiming to find both LML and Bookitty scummy early (positing that first impressions are disproportionately important), and having read through page 15-20 or so, KK hasn't placed a vote on either (or anyone). The more I say/argue here on this specific topic, the more I potentially mold KK's post, so zipping it for now.In post 926, MrBuddyLee wrote:Not sure about KK at this point.. but there is almost certainly scum in {STD, UT, PJ}. LML looooves to be right, and he really wanted us to know he found those three guys suspect."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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It isn't apparent. That's why I'm asking."This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).-
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I'm not really in the business of exaggerating the town cred of people who aren't on the chopping block. If you really want me to defend KK like I defended Glork yesterday, run up a KK wagon.In post 1371, Kublai Khan wrote:
Is that it? It kinda sounds like you're taking the towniest of the people on the LoudmouthLee wagon and choosing to view their actions through a WIFOMy "must be bussing" filter.In post 1303, MrBuddyLee wrote:PJ made a vote-switch late yesterday that made an LML lynch more of a possibility. His vote simultaneously took the race from like Bookitty 9, LML 3, PJ 3 to 9-4-3. So in addition to the vote being critical to the building of the LML-wagon, it also removed pressure from the PJ-wagon. I've felt that LML bused a scumpartner, and PJ is one of the options in that direction. I am conflicted on PJ, and don't feel today is necessarily the time to focus on him. When people are lynching scum, you generally keep them around.
What gives you such a strong feeling that LoudmouthLee bussed a scumpartner?
1. It's a possibility.In post 1303, MrBuddyLee wrote:
My question was in response to this comment of yours:KK wrote:
At what point in time are you asking? Scum-wants changed as the situation grew dire for them.MBL wrote:Do you think scum wanted LML lynched, Bookitty lynched, or a no-lynch?
So basically, I'm asking: do you really feel all three remaining players (MBL, Glork, DGB) from the KK-wagon were voting you to demoralize the town? I can understand "divide"--yes, offering you as an alternative was an invitation to step off other wagons. Of the three of us, only DGB showed a willingness to no-lynch.KK wrote:I don't think the attempt was to lynch. I think it was an attempt to create another option to further divide/demoralize the town and create possibility of no lynch.
I'll break my question down:
1) Do you really think my voting you yesterday and keeping that vote there until deadline-day was designed to result in a no-lynch?
2) Do you think Glork's switch to you 16 hours before deadline was designed to result in no-lynch?
3) Do you believe DGB found both LML and Bookitty too townish to vote for yesterday, or is that implausible?
4) Are you pretty sure that Bookitty is scum? Because if she's town, wouldn't it make more sense for one or more of scum-Glork, scum-DGB and scum-MBL to push for her lynch at 9-3 or 9-5 Bookitty instead of no-lynching or risking an LML lynch?
2. It's a possibility.
3. It wasn't implausible. When DrippingGoofball said a no lynch was preferred, I tried to ascertain how LoudmouthLee was so town in her view. She didn't answer until Day 2 started, so that answer is weak.
4. There is risk to pushing a competing wagon close to deadline. Maybe they hadn't laid down the proper groundwork for a BooKitty push. But.... It's really, really easy to push a competing wagon on me because I had mostly prod-dodged since replacing in. So it's super easy to shoot a vote on me with a rallying cry of "hey this guy didn't do much and jumped on a wagon towards the end of the day with no case" and maybe it catches on.
Examining those that voted me, only Glork fits that profile. You and DrippingGoofball both expressed early suspicion of the BooKitty slot while Glork declared it super-town. Glork voted me with the reason of "this guy didn't post enough, therefore scum". Plus Glork offered to hammer anyone else immediately after voting LML.
Shit.. Glork is fucking scum.
vote: Glork
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I saw the undo wagon build. It's not a bad pressure wagon but it's a terrible lynch wagon.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
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Right, so that's why I was confused that you thought these kills were odd. But your second sentence explains it better.In post 1768, chamber wrote:
I wouldn't expect them to be making kills that are -bad- for them, so yes?In post 1763, mathcam wrote:Isn't safe good for them?
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