NY175: Sycamore Scuffle

[farside22]

Just a point in my head if a player is not posting here you should see if it site wide.

That said this game will have a 24 hour reprieve from me as I'm behind elsewhere.

[Aeronaut]

Scarab, you're not making yourself look any better by overreacting to something that was barely an accusation. BP's just covering all the points. The fact that you felt the need to start making personal attacks on BP doesn't reflect well.

[Scarab]

Like, you said I'm twisting something. What do you think I was "twisting"? It's all well and good that you apparently didn't think to check if I'd posted anywhere else during that time, but you're insistent on calling me scummy for ANYTHING right now. What was I twisting? And how is it that instead of containing an acknowledgement that you were wrong, 847 instead tries to say that my calling you out on it is "twisting" while reiterating what you'd said?

[Scarab]

Aeronaut, there was no personal attack by me on bp in any of these posts.

[BP]

The point to hiding it in a spoiler was because it was not important. It was just a point I wanted to make that you are not forgotten and that I am keeping an eye on you. I stated a bloody fact - you were not posting. As you can see, I did not draw ANY conclusion from that because real life is actually a thing, so I cannot just assume you were merely lurking to avoid confrontation. THEREFORE, I REPEAT, I did not draw any conclusion from that fact.

[Scarab]

What was I twisting?

[BP]

My intentions.

[Aegor]

I do not. I think Hunter is just somebody who grew very disinterested in this game, and posts every few days to avoid a prod. Also, as was seen in his #8, this was his first name out of newbieland. So, he probably saw the game size, got overwhelmed, and decided he couldn't keep up with it.

Why is that more likely than scummy lurking? What posts suggest your theory instead of scum?

I've answered this question here. I'd quote it for you, but I'd probably mess it up.

That in no way answered my question. You have not explained satisfactorily why you are not joining the Clusk wagon, which is still far from lynch and therefore entails no real risk. You did not respond to others' questions about it (from Cabd, IIRC?). You also have not explained why you are not voting someone else in the meantime.

Vote someone in your next post. I cannot have players totally disengaged and waiting for a wagon to hop on when it is near lynch.

Well, I don't think HS is scum because of the reasons I posted to the first question, but why do I think Clusk is

more

scummy? Well Clusk gave a lot of actual posts with meaning in them near the beginning of the game, unlike HS. However, as soon as he got some pressure on him, he decided to lay low for awhile,

as scum tend to do.

Someone who was town would be more prone to defend his choices because if they are right, it would help the town, and in turn them.

Unless they get lynched anyway, but sure.

However, he just stopped talking completely, and when Farside finally called him on his shit,he immediately switched out of the game.

Does that not look scummy to you?

It does not look that much scummier than HS to me, no.

[Aegor]

Scarab, you're not making yourself look any better by overreacting to something that was barely an accusation. BP's just covering all the points. The fact that you felt the need to start making personal attacks on BP doesn't reflect well.

This is garbage. Way to suggest that

yet another

player is scummy while doing jack to push anyone or -- God forbid -- vote someone. What was the point of this post? What did it accomplish? What were your goals?

[BP]

However, he just stopped talking completely, and when Farside finally called him on his shit,he immediately switched out of the game.

Does that not look scummy to you?

It does not look that much scummier than HS to me, no.

I agree, but only after HunterLurker's latest post.

[Aegor]

Scarab, you're not making yourself look any better by overreacting to something that was barely an accusation. BP's just covering all the points. The fact that you felt the need to start making personal attacks on BP doesn't reflect well.

This is garbage. Way to suggest that

yet another

player is scummy while doing jack to push anyone or -- God forbid -- vote someone. What was the point of this post? What did it accomplish? What were your goals?

Also, Scarab made no personal attacks and clearly did not overreact. Please explain yourself.

[Cabd]

Okay yeah, can we just pick one of {hunter, clusk, aero} and get a move on?

[Aegor]

No more Wake for you?

[Cabd]

Oh right, he's in this game., Yeah sure him too.

[BP]

Okay yeah, can we just pick one of {hunter, clusk, aero} and get a move on?

Is Aero such a clear read for you?

[Cabd]

I guess that depends on if you read my posts or not.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Hunterseeker

Read in your next post or die

[Not_Mafia]

Reads*

Want to lynch Hunter or Clusk, Wake is also still in the mix (but less so after meta'ing him) pending the results of his "reaction test"

[Not_Mafia]

Adrien, Scarab, BP and Broodking are also good lynches but prefer the above

[Damon_Gant]

I've had a very busy week until now. Starting from tomorrow I have 4 consecutive days off and therefore my excuses are running out in this game!

[Toomai]

Votecount D1-17

Sharpest-knife-on-tree	L-11	0	—
Cabd	L-11	0	—
TheAdrienC	L-10	1	Boonskiies
reinoe	L-11	0	—
Wake88	L-10	1	Clusk92
Burning_TowN	L-11	0	—
shaddowez	L-11	0	—
Damon_Gant	L-11	0	—
Mirhawk	L-10	1	Scarab
Not_Mafia	L-11	0	—
Aegor	L-11	0	—
Scarab	L-10	1	Sharpest-knife-on-tree
farside22	L-11	0	—
Boonskiies	L-10	1	Burning_TowN
BroodKingEXE	L-11	0	—
Juls	L-11	0	—
Aeronaut	L-11	0	—
HunterSeeker	L-5	6	Damon_Gant, Aegor, TheAdrienC, reinoe, BP, Not_Mafia
Clusk92	L-5	6	farside22, shaddowez, Alina, Cabd, Mirhawk, HunterSeeker
BP	L-10	1	Wake88
Alina	L-11	0	—

Not voting:

BroodKingEXE, Juls, Aeronaut

Activity

TheAdrienC is V/LA until 13/07/2014.
Burning_TowN is V/LA until 15/07/2014-ish.

Current deadline

27/07/2014 11:27 (EDT)
(expired on 2014-07-27 11:27:31)

[Cabd]

{Boonskiies, Scarab, Wake, Burning_Town, SKOT, Brood, Juls, Aero (and I guess clusk's replacement)} need to pick a wagon between the two viable wagons. I don't feel like dicking around doing nothing for another 17 days 18 hours and 25 minutes when there's scum to lynch.

[Aeronaut]

I do not. I think Hunter is just somebody who grew very disinterested in this game, and posts every few days to avoid a prod. Also, as was seen in his #8, this was his first name out of newbieland. So, he probably saw the game size, got overwhelmed, and decided he couldn't keep up with it.

Why is that more likely than scummy lurking? What posts suggest your theory instead of scum?

I've answered this question here. I'd quote it for you, but I'd probably mess it up.

That in no way answered my question. You have not explained satisfactorily why you are not joining the Clusk wagon, which is still far from lynch and therefore entails no real risk. You did not respond to others' questions about it (from Cabd, IIRC?). You also have not explained why you are not voting someone else in the meantime.

Vote someone in your next post. I cannot have players totally disengaged and waiting for a wagon to hop on when it is near lynch.

Well, I don't think HS is scum because of the reasons I posted to the first question, but why do I think Clusk is

more

scummy? Well Clusk gave a lot of actual posts with meaning in them near the beginning of the game, unlike HS. However, as soon as he got some pressure on him, he decided to lay low for awhile,

as scum tend to do.

Someone who was town would be more prone to defend his choices because if they are right, it would help the town, and in turn them.

Unless they get lynched anyway, but sure.

However, he just stopped talking completely, and when Farside finally called him on his shit,he immediately switched out of the game.

Does that not look scummy to you?

It does not look that much scummier than HS to me, no.

Alright, guess I'm not being clear enough. I haven't voted for anyone. Correct. Now the question is, why haven't I voted for Clusk or HS? I've explained my reasoning for both, but I'll spell it out simple so everyone understands.

1. HS looks like a stupid or disinterested town at this point. Why waste a vote on him?

2. For Clusk, I was going to wait for his replacement to say something, instead of jumping on a wagon that I think formed way too quickly.

3. There's 18 fucking days left in D1. And you're yelling at me for going to slowly? I'm sorry that I'm not ending the day fast enough for you to make your nightkills.

Scarab, you're not making yourself look any better by overreacting to something that was barely an accusation. BP's just covering all the points. The fact that you felt the need to start making personal attacks on BP doesn't reflect well.

This is garbage. Way to suggest that

yet another

player is scummy while doing jack to push anyone or -- God forbid -- vote someone. What was the point of this post? What did it accomplish? What were your goals?

By "yet another player", do you mean "a third player"? I'm scum hunting. I'm making sure of who I want to lynch before I tag along the wagon, because I'm honestly not sure who needs to get lynched. You, and your scum buddy there, on the other and, seem to be

quite

sure of yourselves.




For now, I will vote. This vote is subject to change, especially when/if Clusk's replacement makes a post. Basically, not voting hunter because I'm convinced he's just an idiot, but nothing more.

VOTE: Clusk

[Aeronaut]

Also, about Scarab. Maybe he didn't quite overreact, but it seemed like a lot of extra back and forth for no real reason. It just seemed strange to me at the time. It still sort of does, I don't know, just seems sort of too much. BP just sort of mentioned him at the end. Maybe just me though.

[Alina]

Okay. I was pretty firmly on the Clusk train. Then I ISOed him in his first game(Newbie 1506.) I encourage you all to do that as well. There is a stark, stark difference. In that game he seemed to actually be trying. Here? The complete opposite. I'm sorry, I don't care how large the game is in comparison, HE HASN'T TRIED FOR A SINGLE SECOND SINCE PAGE 1.

VOTE: HunterSeeker

I think this is L-4. Maybe L-3, I don't know.