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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:05 pm

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In post 165, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 162, Belisarius wrote:Can you point to anything alignment indicative he's done
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If you really want a lynch I expect a better reason than a playstyle attack.


Who cares about alignment? He will screw us over as town or scum.

Except for confirming, have you made a single post that didn't involve tunneling me? You can lynch me if you want, but this is all your focusing on and by doing so, avoiding giving opinions or doing anything else. At this point, I don't care what happens, but the way you're going about this is not from a town mindset.

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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:13 pm

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In post 157, Venrob wrote:I spent my time reading Aronis's ISO and Lylo of that game, which took all of 5 minutes. I woke up very late today because I was up very late last night at a concer, so I had almost no online time. Now, I have taken an extra 5 minutes to read the pages of this and am going to hold my position. I agree with your , and as such will hold my vote.

Spoiler: I just looked at my own wiki...
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Now in my past, during the game where I was a 1-shot doc, I have learned that fakeclaimers must die. So I hold my vote.

So basically you're making the case that you're frequently mislynched? Like I can see that, but at the same time its like 'Im scum, but just ignore everything I do bc I get mislynched alot'. Coming from you, it's just not worth that much, imo. It's nice to know, but not alignment indicative, I guess.

And I'm not fake claiming anything atm. Still a VT.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:15 pm

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In post 173, Belisarius wrote:I gots a ring in my pocketses because it's good to be invisible sometimes
I'm only happy when I'm naked and I wear it like a Maginot line

Sometimes I remind me of myself, sometimes I remind me of myself sometimes I reminded me etc. Etc.

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I kinda think you might be town, but can you give me a link to your scum game, bc Im still not sure what to think of all of this rambling.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:55 pm

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In post 157, Venrob wrote:O agree with your , and as such will hold my vote.


Venrob distancing himself from Aronis's flip before Aronis is lynched counter: 3

In post 165, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Who cares about alignment? He will screw us over as town or scum.


Policy lynching d1 is definitely better than a shot in the dark, but lynching scum is better than a policy lynch. And policy lynching means you don't MIND if you hit a town player, but you still WANT to hit them as scum (and are essentially just going for them on the random chance they drew scum, instead of aiming for a read). You probably still shouldn't policy lynch a player who's confirmed town, no matter how bad. And I think Aronis is pretty heavily town by virtue of Venrob's interaction with him. Do you disagree with me? What are your reads, in general?

I'm not going to shut down and refuse to discuss a policy lynch, but you can't use it as an excuse not to mention your thoughts on the others in this game.

In post 175, Aronis wrote:At this point, I don't care what happens


Why not?
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:00 pm

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Hito. Speak to me.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:47 am

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I want Belisarius dead for that shitty fake nonchalance last page.

I'd also like Venrob dead, just in general, but, y'know, we sadly can't do both today.

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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:33 am

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In post 177, Aronis wrote:can you give me a link to your scum game


There something stopping you from clicking my wiki and running your own damned meta?

In post 180, T S O wrote:I want Belisarius dead for that shitty fake nonchalance last page.


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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:51 am

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In post 179, xRECKONERx wrote:Hito. Speak to me.


Hi. You've been pointing out a lot of good stuff on Venrob, I don't know why you're not voting him, you should. Or sell me on Jargo. Also you should get Quantum, it's a super fun board game and it involves space so I feel like I can bring it up here. Actually yesterday I played Quantum and Space Alert for a combined like five hours. Space.

Belisarius, no one seems to be following you on ABR. How does that make you feel?
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:10 am

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In post 163, Paschendale wrote:@Havingfitz: Fine, whatever.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:46 am

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In post 163, Paschendale wrote:I've seen a lot of people attack each other over playstyle, including myself, in a lot of games. But I see it levied against me almost every single game. I get attacked over almost the exact same things, get a wagon built on me almost the exact same way, almost every game. It happens regardless of my alignment.


It felt like you were going to defend Espresso for a while, but then it just turned into you giving yourself a free pass for scummy play.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:22 am

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Sorry guys, my internet connection got shut down, and I won't really have good access until tomorrow.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:29 am

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Aronis' vote on me is terrible. He knows that my vote on him is legitimate after what he's pulled. This makes him even more likely to be scum.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:31 am

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Reck seems town. Belisarius as well. Hito and Venrob too. Jargonaut I suppose could be scum due to the content of his posts, it's a bit early to tell. I'll comment on the rest of the game, but I think Aronis is our best shot regardless.
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:41 am

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In post 182, hitogoroshi wrote:Belisarius, no one seems to be following you on ABR. How does that make you feel?


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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:55 am

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Belisarius and Venrob ...town?
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:05 am

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ABR I've seen you pull this shit before where you go for one person and not only will you tunnel that person and refuse to lynch anyone else, but you'll also say you're townreading just about everyone else when you're actually not. Then when they flip town, you'll immediately give your actual reads, which is jarring and makes it really easy for scum to discredit you/mislynch you.

Please don't do that. If you want to tunnel on Aronis, fine, but don't lie about your actual reads to advance your preferred lynch. Thanks.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:05 am

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If, on the other hand, you are inexplicably townreading Belisarius and Venrob (I see this as pretty damn unlikely) you should explain them, because I obviously don't get it.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:10 am

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Aronis' flustered response over Albert seems genuine. I'm not inclined to join that wagon at all. TSO's point about Albert's tunneling is definitely worth keeping in mind. Hito is towning it up. And I want some of whatever Belisarius is on.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:25 am

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VOTE: Venrob
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:28 am

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In post 182, hitogoroshi wrote:Hi. You've been pointing out a lot of good stuff on Venrob, I don't know why you're not voting him, you should.

Wait. NO I HAVEN'T.

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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:50 am

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You're the one who pointed out that Venrob read the meta game and not the current game. I guess I was counting "dat self meta wall" because I remembered it as a zing on Venrob, but it probably doesn't qualify as a point per se? So pointed out "a good thing" is more accurate than "a lot of good stuff", but I remembered it as a lot and that was just off the cuff
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:58 am

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In post 186, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Aronis' vote on me is terrible. He knows that my vote on him is legitimate after what he's pulled. This makes him even more likely to be scum.


If he's so bad under pressure he's a lock in policy lynch, why on earth is it a scumtell that he's not calmly accepting you trying to policy lynch him?

Why is Venrob town (aside from him being scum shooting down your policy lynch)?
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:10 am

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VOTE: venrob ok you're good w/ me buckarooni
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:15 am

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In post 186, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Aronis' vote on me is terrible. He knows that my vote on him is legitimate after what he's pulled. This makes him even more likely to be scum.

Wait, what!? What does you policy lynching me have to do with my alignment?

A policy lynch is defined as: 'it describes the lynch of a player who is not found to be particularly scummy'
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:34 am

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I'm leaning more towards Pas being obnoxious than mafia at this point - he has gone after and defended too many people to be playing a standard scum game. More at 11.

Hito, are you cool with espresso right now?

Reckoner, is your name a radiohead reference?

TSO, if you could have anyone in this game, after a couple days of posting, on your scum team (you are a goon, they are a goon), who would you pick?

ABR, why do you think Aronis is a better lynch than Venrob or Espresso?

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