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[Albert B. Rampage]

Thank you Juls. Venmar, Reck, please suppport Jarg as the lynch.

[Venmar]

Why me and Reck? I personally don't have much of a strong read on Jargo

[Albert B. Rampage]

Because you guys have posted and I think I can convince you to join a better bandwagon than my own.

[Juls]

You know if she flips town though, I gotta vote you. Right now I am at a place of it's either you or her.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'd stake my life on it.

[Espressojet]

I'd stake my life on it.

Then do. Claim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

You want me to claim because 3 people are voting me? You realize that Reck is probably going to unvote any minute now, and that Jarg is scum, right?

[Juls]

I'd stake my life on it.

Then do. Claim.

Please don't make me take back my newb-town read on you.

[xRECKONERx]

ABR's hammer explanation didn't give me any warm and fuzzy feelings.

[Espressojet]

He DID say he'd stake his life on it

[Juls]

Reck, the way I see it, if Jargo is scum, then ABR is confirmed town. If Jargo is town, then ABR may be scum so I think a jargo lynch is the way to go. But I'm not going to fight an ABR lynch too hard. He has been pretty unlackluster.

[Albert B. Rampage]

ABR's hammer explanation didn't give me any warm and fuzzy feelings.

The truth is strange, sometimes. I wasn't interested in this game until that magical flip.

[xRECKONERx]

Hito not dying is confusing me.

Pedit: Yeah, I will probably go with Jargo but there's more than enough time to figure this out.

[xRECKONERx]

I need to read some bits of D1 again when I'm back at my computer

[Espressojet]

This:

Venrob is constantly mislynched. Trying to vote for him Day 1 is a joke.

Belisarius seems town because of his 5-6 posts in a row. A bit too out of the box for scum IMO.

I forced a quicklynch of Venrob for three reasons:

1) To save myself

2) His replace-out changed my read on him from null to scummy.

3) I was fine with that wagon since I knew there were town players on it.

I didn't strongly townread Venrob, the two reasons I decided to defend him was because 1)

he said he was constantly mislynched

and I can relate to that and 2) my instinct was to pick the opposite side than the majority on that issue so that there would be more discussion. In the end, I didn't care enough to defend him and voted him. When the tide turned against me, I knew that Anatole could save me and I took a short in the dark by quicklynching Venrob.

^why

I think the Jargo case is actually pretty good. Especially the opportunistic scumreads. Scum like to make moves that are safe.

Which of my scum reads do you think are opportunistic?

I'm curious why you aren't asking Anatole or TSO, since I was agreeing with them.

Not quite. They are considering multiple arguments, but you seem content to consider just one.

Anatole, I asked you a question in 328, pls rspnd. 324 and 326 take contradictory stances on what you think my mindset when making my reads list was.

Venrob + ABR 2014

This is a scum post trying to set up future townie lynches.

Vote: Jargonaut

No, YOU said that, also this entire post seems like you planned it ahead of time during the night phase.

Also these:

What are your reasons for thinking that he's scum? ELI5

- Self-meta wall ("I'm always scum!")
- Votes Aronis for having only one post, then unvotes to jokevote the mod, then when he votes Aronis again he hides behind the reasoning of THE CAPTAIN IS VOTING HIM!
- More self meta wall
- Sudden decrease in activity coinciding with suspicion being thrown his way (and "my internet is flickering" is the bullshittiest of bullshit excuses)

One of the worst cases I've ever read. Won't be voting for this guy.

(Venrob)

You want to lynch Venrob? Alright, let's lynch Venrob.

Unvote, vote Venrob

I really don't care one way or another.

You contradict yourself a lot

[Espressojet]

flip?

Might as well say "I await in eager anticipation, as I have

no

idea what the outcome could possibly be!"

[Espressojet]

I mean, COME ON! I'm such a newb, but even I can see how ridiculously scummy this guy has been acting!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Here's the secret; I'm always scum. Especially in 3p lylo when I'm town, that's when I'm the most scum. Every damned game I get lynched.

[Espressojet]

Ok, you got me there, I missed that one.

But you did say it 150 posts later. And you didn't say that he said it at that point, you claimed it like it was a fact that YOU knew personally.

[Juls]

Is it scummy to plan posts in the night?

[xRECKONERx]

Actually weirdly enough I don't think Venrob as scum blatantly sheeps "the captain" if the captain is his scumbuddy. So...

unvote

[Belisarius]

Nope nope nope.

VOTE: ABR

Things ABR has done with scum motivation:
-Defends flipped scum aggressively almost all of D1 while pushing a policy lynch on a nullread. Scum motivation : check. Chance of lynching scum with this strategy == chance of lynching scum by lynching randomly +/- 0%. Town motivation: none
-Flip-flops when it's clear that the only options are himself or said flipped scum; I've defended lynchbait as town before and I stick to my guns even when I'm getting attacked for it. Scum motivation in self-preservation over saving a weaker scumbuddy: check
-Defensive opening D2. Scum motivation: check
-Bargaining. Scum motivation: check. Town motivation: nope
-Had planned to use governor ability, which is negative-utility as town. Scum motivation: check


Things ABR has done with town motivation:
-*tumbleweeds*

Unrelated: Anatole's death flavour is consistent with what I know of our third party. Neither of last night's kills were carried out by a vig.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Somebody called for a tunnel vision?

[Belisarius]

Yeah, I'm not ignoring a slam dunk to avoid being called a buzzword.

[Juls]

Did I miss something about a 3rd party? I was told flavor knowledge was not required.