Open 558: Hope Plus 1 (GAME OVER!)


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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:49 am

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In post 270, ShadedMelee wrote:Quickhammering is scummy.
Quickhammering while some old votes were parked on the target, and not all of them made a recent comment is more scummy.
Quickhammering while people told you they will ISO somebody soon to check something is more and more scummy.
Quickhammering before the target claims is uber-hyper-ultra scummy.

VOTE: awestfie


Umm, yeah. You need to die today. Care to comment?
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:55 pm

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Hey this is tool, back from V/LA. I'm catching up now.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:55 pm

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Oh whoops we're dead. Bah!
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:04 pm

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:(
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:17 pm

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In post 599, ProHawk wrote:Oh joy. Another scummy hammer. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this Awestfie.


I told myself during this night cycle that I would end up voting Shaded no matter what happened and I still believe I'm going to do that; just not right now. I don't care if Shaded's hammer on Titus was considered a "quick-hammer" there; to me it looked incredibly opportunistic and nothing else and I really, really doubt he's town here. If Shaded is scum, Wicked is town; really doubt he tried to bus while we had a ML yesterday.

I'm about 80% sure that his partner is Marcrell; and as much as I'd love to re-read the Kodama (ProHawk) slot - there just isn't much content there.
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:19 pm

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And I'm glad that Catastrophe answered my question as to why he town-read Shaded. Oh wait, never mind; he didn't. I fail to see how anyone could town-read him, especially after that opportunistic vote now.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:22 pm

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Also, unless I'm missing a mechanic; I don't understand why doctor wasn't on Egg or Catastrophe.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:27 pm

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Not liking #606
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:29 pm

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In post 604, awestfie wrote:
In post 599, ProHawk wrote:Oh joy. Another scummy hammer. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this Awestfie.


I told myself during this night cycle that I would end up voting Shaded no matter what happened and I still believe I'm going to do that; just not right now. I don't care if Shaded's hammer on Titus was considered a "quick-hammer" there; to me it looked incredibly opportunistic and nothing else and I really, really doubt he's town here. If Shaded is scum, Wicked is town; really doubt he tried to bus while we had a ML yesterday.

I'm about 80% sure that his partner is Marcrell; and as much as I'd love to re-read the Kodama (ProHawk) slot - there just isn't much content there.


To clarify: I don't purely scum-read Shaded because of that hammer.

Read: , .

And yes, my "80% sure that his partner is Marcrell" might not match with my comment in ; but I simply remember thinking Kodama was town initially and I haven't really looked back on it simply due to a lack of content - which is why I'm not instantly voting Shaded today.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:30 pm

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In post 607, ProHawk wrote:Not liking #606


You think Shaded is scum, yeah?
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:31 pm

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I would bet he is scum, how he acted to your quick-hammer, and himself quick-hammering.... huge cog-dis.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:31 pm

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Do you think 606 is scummy?
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:32 pm

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Incredibly.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:32 pm

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So, you think there's a chance I'm his partner when Shaded attempted to lynch me for "quick hammering? K.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:35 pm

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That question/statement you made there, what kind of motivation did you have with it?

Looks to me like a question/statement to be asked end-game, not in the middle of a game when scum needs to figure out who the doc is.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:38 pm

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I'm expressing my thoughts, is that so wrong with you? Jesus christ. I genuinely thought Doc should've been on them because they both town-told plenty. Do you seriously see that as an attempt to me to try and figure out who the doctor is? There's no "motivation" behind it, I just say what's on my mind instead of replacing in and asking for a tl;dr instead of read the game.

I'm town - and if you can't realize that, then; too bad.
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:42 pm

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I will go back and look at the interactions between you and Shaded while I wait for others to get in the thread and make some comments.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:45 pm

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Cool. I thought was lazily done and that your opening request of a tl;dr was bullshit; it's not going to give you any solid reads nor is it really going to help you in any way since you're going to end up reading the game in end regardless.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:47 pm

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Actually they way players answer tl;dr requests is pretty telling. It wasn't for me to not read, it was for me to see others reactions/how people interpreted the state of the game at that particular point. This game is pretty dead in terms of players activity levels so I didn't get as much out of it as I had hoped. But I am glad to see we are getting along swimmingly.
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:45 pm

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IMPORTANT MOD ANNOUNCEMENT:

Based on player activity levels in past days, I'm adding a fairly standard rule to the mod's ruleset which I just noticed is currently absent.

If a player is prodded three times, I will begin searching for an immediate replacement.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:46 pm

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Sorry guys, that was a gambit but i failed. Game is probably lost at this point but i will try to do my best to at least give town a slight chance.

You should try to see the events from my perspective;

- We would end-up in a MYLO if we mislynched.
- From the discussion and reads that people outed it was clear Day would end up with a lynch of Titus or ME.
- I knew i am town.
- I was strongly scum reading Titus slot. (I expressed this several times as you can see in my ISO)
- My strongest scum read Wicked was pushing for my lynch and it seemed like he would succeed. He seemed like protecting the Titus slot. (Especially for he scum-read him but did not vote)
- Marcrell and awe was about to unvote Titus and switch to me. Wicked was already voting me, and Titus as being my other scum read would surely vote for me. This made my lynch inevitable.
- I know i am not good at defending myself in mislynch situations.

Considering all of these a quickhammer was the best choice for town from my perspective. I know i contradicted my stance on awe's hammer, but this was necessary at that point to prevent a MYLO. (Although it did not).

I would have voted for someone that did the same thing, so i won't get mad with any of you if you do so.
There is nothing more i can do than to hope you look at other possibilities. I still think wicked should be the scum, although i was wrong about his partner.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:38 am

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Prod dodge. I'll get to this game later today.

Given that it is now LyLo, I think a doc claim is in order. The doc is no longer of use to us and one confirmed townie would narrow the pool of possible scum. Please let's not rush another lynch.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:35 am

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In post 621, Wickedestjr wrote:I think a doc claim is in order. The doc is no longer of use to us and one confirmed townie would narrow the pool of possible scum.


WTF is going on? I completely disagree. I dunno, the doc could you know, maybe stop a night-kill from happening? That sounds pretty useful to me, and not only from a preventing scum from killing aspect. Think about it for a second.

So... Shaded, you quick-hammered for self-preservation? :neutral:
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:54 am

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Wicked, still looking for an answer to ...

In post 590, ProHawk wrote:Wicked, maybe you can help me so I don't have to read for another two hours.... do you always tell people how to play pro-town in your games? Do you do it as both alignments?


Haven't had time to meta-dive.

Also, why do you feel the need to narrow the possible pool of scum?
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:03 am

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In post 620, ShadedMelee wrote:I still think wicked should be the scum, although i was wrong about his partner.


Lets hear your candidate #2.

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