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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:57 am

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Okay, the weird contradiction I saw earlier.

In post 36, The Bulge wrote:
Assuming you mean go with the list order plan but don't make it mandatory...

1) It's a waste of fruit for people who do decide to give.
2) It only works as process of elimination and gives us nothing conclusive.
3) It is incredibly easy for mafia to work around it (ie, take turns killing)
4) It won't stop any night kills.

We're making it compulsive.


Okay, so bulge correctly notices that hayato wants fruit circle with everyone choosing whether to give or not.

In post 42, The Bulge wrote:
1) Scum can lie about giving fruit. Read the setup. You are not informed of how much fruit you received. Multiple people can give to the same player and the recipient won't be notified of it.
2) In some cases it would. If scum decides to kill during a fruit night.
3) It's pretty self-explanatory. If it's not mandatory to give fruit, scum doesn't have to provide any excuses as to why they didn't give.
4) Your "could" is far weaker than our "could".

Sorry for any typos, I'm on mobile with an annoying autocorrect.


And with fruit circle, how does multiple fruit happen?

Pedit: yeah fair enough go with ice on this. I'm gonna hammer before deadline if nobody else does, but other probably should deadline hammer as well - I might not be active, even assuming I'm town.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:33 am

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Will catch up tonight.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:41 am

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You really should.

In post 70, The Bulge wrote:All that being said, I don't think Siveure is scum. I do, however, think hayato is mafia piggybacking off of town logic to get me lynched and save his own ass.

PEDIT (Siveure): How is that any different from every other person who voted anyone?
Of course he doesn't, because he's scum and he knows I'm town.

In post 90, The Bulge wrote:
Votecount 1.0


innocentvillager (1) -
mathbandit
hayatoBL (2) -
T S O, The Bulge
mathbandit (3) -
don_johnson, Siveure DtTrikyp, hayatoBL

Not Voting (5) -
Marcrell, Aronis, innocentvillager, ashura525, Aeronaut

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

In post 113, The Bulge wrote:
In post 104, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:
In post 36, The Bulge wrote:Assuming you mean go with the list order plan but don't make it mandatory...


In post 42, The Bulge wrote:1) Scum can lie about giving fruit. Read the setup. You are not informed of how much fruit you received. Multiple people can give to the same player and the recipient won't be notified of it.


This is weird. When you look back, TSO and I both completely misunderstood hayato's plan. Bulge didn't initially then DID in his later post? What?

I don't understand this... what are you trying to say? That I didn't understand at first, or that I did? Either way, how is this so strange?

In post 112, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Because everything looks like it could have come from scum-bulge.

Good reasoning A+

yea yea OMGUS whatever
VOTE: Siveure
I don't like how he's been posting lately and I'm pretty sure he's scum. More to come when I have time.


These posts are consecutive in bulge's iso. In the first, he finds me town, despite the "stupidity" I've exerted.
Then, he posts a votecount, presumably not changing his opinion.
Then he votes me. What changed? Okay, I'd done really stupid/scummy stuff. TSO had abandoned the hayato wagon - and fitz had voted me. It's NOT OMGUS to vote someone 70 posts after they first voted you, and that bulge calls it as thus dispels suspicion on what is a horrible vote.

Neil, you called out bulge for appearing to contribute while not actually contributing in RVS - what makes calling out the lurkers different? How is stating the advantages of one night plan over another not fake-contribution? I don't think there IS a difference.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:33 am

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VOTE: Iceguy
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:30 pm

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In post 603, havingfitz wrote:VOTE: Iceguy


Stop this. Vote Siv, or sit down. Siv has 4 votes, he's at L-2. We need to get him to L-1, and then hammer him. We have literally less than 24 hours left, and I've explained multiple times why a Don or Siv lynch would be more fulfilling with information than an Ice lynch. If you wanted to counter wagon Siv, Don would give more information. Ice is 3rd on the list. Stop being anti-town, and vote for scum please? Thanks.

I know Siv has addressed me a couple times. Unfortunately I don't have the patience or time to go toe to toe with scum right now, seeing as we have less than a day left until deadline.
NOBODY VOTE ICE. NOBODY VOTE DON. NOBODY VOTE ANYONE, OTHER THAN SIV.
If we freaking go to a "no lynch" because of your dumb ass, I'm going to be pissed.

Be actually pro-town, and vote scum (Siv).

This also goes out to Xayzeck, Bins, and FormerFish, Aronis, and Bulge. But with Aronis and Bulge out, that leaves 2 of the necessary votes needed to come from Xay, Bins, Fitz, and Fish. (Btw, I seriously doubt Siv has any real desire to hammer himself. Think about his recent posts, and his out that he gave himself when he said "yeah someone else might need to hammer me, because I might not be around..." yet the whole time before this he was like "don't worry guys, i'm so town and have the town's best interest at heart, so i'll hammer myself to make sure we don't no lynch! You can count on me!!!!"

Bull #*(@#. Siv is scum. Hammer time.

(Siv, since you're the lynch for today, a claim would be nice now. I'm expecting a power role claim, since that'd be the best claim scum can do. If you say VT, I'm going to be seriously disappointed in you when you flip scum.)
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:35 pm

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It's upsetting cause you're being a pain in the butt.


VOTE: Siv

If we happen to no lynch, we have to go in circular because pairs would fuck up.



If Siv is scum I sincerely apologize to Neil, if not, uhg sdngc vx.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:43 pm

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Finally. Am I good to hammer?
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:44 pm

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Do it.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:54 pm

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Somebody post the night plan. I'm a bit confused. Do we do pairs regardless of flip?
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:56 pm

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Circle if town flip, paired if scum flip.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:56 pm

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Alrighty.

VOTE: Siv

Das a wrap. This day was too long.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:57 pm

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IF SIV FLIPS TOWN

Pass to the person below you on the list. Bottom of the list passes to top.

IF SIV FLIPS SCUM

Pass to your partner, listed in groups below.

Xayzeck
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Aronis
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:03 pm

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nO
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:04 pm

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NO GODDAMMIT JOSHUA WHAT ARE YOU SAYING.

If Siv flips town, we pass in pairs.

If he flips scum, we do my plan. Fuck. We didn't lay it out.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:04 pm

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Odd numbers pass.
Even numbers don't.

Pass to the number below you.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:06 pm

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I'VE BEEN LIED TO HELP

what what dammit i don't know why was I trusted to do that

Ok somebody post the real plan i don't know what to believe anymore. It's too late for this shit
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:07 pm

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When Siv dies, your number will change.

1. Xayzeck T S O
2 havingfitz Marcrell
3 Aronis
4 IceGuy innocentvillager
5 The Bulge
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7 Neil113 hayatoBL
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:07 pm

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In post 600, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Okay, the weird contradiction I saw earlier.

In post 36, The Bulge wrote:
Assuming you mean go with the list order plan but don't make it mandatory...

1) It's a waste of fruit for people who do decide to give.
2) It only works as process of elimination and gives us nothing conclusive.
3) It is incredibly easy for mafia to work around it (ie, take turns killing)
4) It won't stop any night kills.

We're making it compulsive.


Okay, so bulge correctly notices that hayato wants fruit circle with everyone choosing whether to give or not.

In post 42, The Bulge wrote:
1) Scum can lie about giving fruit. Read the setup. You are not informed of how much fruit you received. Multiple people can give to the same player and the recipient won't be notified of it.
2) In some cases it would. If scum decides to kill during a fruit night.
3) It's pretty self-explanatory. If it's not mandatory to give fruit, scum doesn't have to provide any excuses as to why they didn't give.
4) Your "could" is far weaker than our "could".

Sorry for any typos, I'm on mobile with an annoying autocorrect.


And with fruit circle, how does multiple fruit happen?

Pedit: yeah fair enough go with ice on this. I'm gonna hammer before deadline if nobody else does, but other probably should deadline hammer as well - I might not be active, even assuming I'm town.


I don't understand the contradiction. I don't see it...
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:08 pm

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In post 616, Bins wrote:When Siv dies, your number will change.

1. Xayzeck T S O
2 havingfitz Marcrell
3 Aronis
4 IceGuy innocentvillager
5 The Bulge
6 don_johnson
7 Neil113 hayatoBL
8 mathbandit
9 Formerfish ashura525*
10 Bins Aeronaut

fix this it hurts mine eyes with replacements and prods
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:08 pm

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K fuck, I don't think Robo is on so like yeah. Just listen to me. Failure to do so, well, fuck you.

1. If Siv flips Town, we pass in pairs listed by The Bulge.

2. If Siv flips Scum, odds pass to the person below them in this list.
1. Xayzeck T S O
2 havingfitz Marcrell
3 Aronis
4 IceGuy innocentvillager
5 The Bulge
6 don_johnson
7 Neil113 hayatoBL
8 mathbandit
9 Formerfish ashura525*
10 Bins Aeronaut

THIS LIST ^^^^.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:08 pm

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In post 618, The Bulge wrote:
In post 616, Bins wrote:When Siv dies, your number will change.

1. Xayzeck T S O
2 havingfitz Marcrell
3 Aronis
4 IceGuy innocentvillager
5 The Bulge
6 don_johnson
7 Neil113 hayatoBL
8 mathbandit
9 Formerfish ashura525*
10 Bins Aeronaut

fix this it hurts mine eyes with replacements and prods




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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:10 pm

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1 Xayzeck
2 havingfitz
3 Aronis
4 IceGuy
5 The Bulge
6 don_johnson
7 Neil113
8 mathbandit
9 Formerfish
10 Bins


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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:12 pm

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My bad, I missed when we changed the plan. I have it now though.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:13 pm

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If anyone plans anything on misunderstanding, they're going to be lynched. This is fair warning.
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:14 pm

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Upon a Siveure DtTrikyp scum lynch...

Xayzeck
passes to havingfitz.

Aronis
passes to IceGuy.

The Bulge
passes to don_johnson.

neil1113
passes to mathbandit.

Formerfish
passes to Bins.

Remaining players
DO NOT PASS.


Failure to conform to the plan will result in your lynch, zero tolerance. If you are town, you are causing a mislynch. Don't do it.

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