Open 561: Farmer's Market (Game Over)

Bins · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:46 am

Actually, that was dumb.

Successfully passing between partners doesn't clear anyone simply because there are two scum. And one could have just passed normally. ;___;

Xayzeck · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:51 am

In post 650, Bins wrote:Actually, that was dumb.

Successfully passing between partners doesn't clear anyone simply because there are two scum. And one could have just passed normally. ;___;

yepyep

aronis probably forgot to fruit, null, could be scum, should not be near endgame

DJ, likewise

we should wait for reactions and lynch accordingly

havingfitz · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 4:48 am

I'm waiting to hear from neil and Aronis before speculating on what happened.

neil1113 · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:31 am

I received fruit. Me and Math both can clarify we've both gotten fruit from each other.

Bins dying was, in my opinion, a really bad call from scum. I'm really sorry how off I was on my reads. I wonder if that's why I'm left alive. It appeared I was leading the town with that wagon, which means people will / would listen to my reads. If I'm calling scum town, I'd leave me alive too. I'm going to have to reevaluate where I stand.

As for Aronis, likely to have forgotten / likely to be scum... whatever. The fact that Aronis did not send fruit and everyone else did, means there is only one explanation.

Aronis is scum.

VOTE: Aronis

This is the (second? third?) game I've been in where I didn't want to push Aronis like that, because I hate the LAL philosophy (Lynch All Lurkers) seeing as I can see reasons why people just wouldn't be around to play much. I've been there myself. However, there's literally no other possibility here. I will say, I'd like to hear from Aronis and I will say it's a dangerous gambit for scum, if Ice fake claimed not receiving fruit.

neil1113 · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:32 am

In post 653, neil1113 wrote:Bins dying was, in my opinion, a really bad call from scum.

By Bins, I clearly meant Bulge....

Bins · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:40 am

There's a lot of other possibilities. Ice was one of you scum reads before, why not assume that he's lying?

havingfitz · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:17 am

Aronis posted several (3) times over the course of 2+ hrs this morning. Hard to imagine he's oblivious to the fact the game has started. Assuming Ice sent Aronis fruit, he should have at least got an email regarding that. I don't think the mod sent D2 has begun emails.

tl:dr; WTF Aronis!?

Get in here and ~explain yourself before we lynch you.

Bins · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:23 am

Eh, I don't get emails. I think Aronis just forgot about us completely.

Can we force prod him? >.> like honestly we just need a yes or no.

don_johnson · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:37 am

someone died. unless the scum are paired, whoever didn't give fruit is scum. right? if aronis flips town, then we know a)dj is not scum b)ice is not scum(unless aronis accuses him of lying) and c) scum is in a pair. right? I don't know. this is gonna make my head hurt, but let me know if I'm wrong. what are the possibilities here?

Bins · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:41 am

Lots, sadly. I'm hoping Aronis accuses Ice of lying so it comes down between them.

Bins · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:49 am

The scum in a pair thing is right. Hopefully, Aronis didn't just forget cause that makes shit so much harder.

If scum were in a pair, I'd suspect Neil and Math, actually.

I think the lynch today should be Aronis/Ice (depending on what Aronis has to say) or Neil/Math.

That's just my opinion, but I don't see any other pair that strikes me as "THESE ARE BOTH SCUM."

mathbandit · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:49 am

Waiting on Aronis.

Bins · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:55 am

Can we get a force prod on him? Ugh.

havingfitz · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:43 am

In post 661, mathbandit wrote:Waiting on Aronis.

He's posted on site within the last 2 hrs

Formerfish · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:56 am

Vote Aronis

neil1113 · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:05 am

Is there a reason Aronis is purposefully avoiding this thread?

To be fair, I don't think we can request the mod to force Aronis to do post before the alotted time, considering it's kind of the perfect scum plan. If Aronis is scum, to delay any information from the town as long as possible...

So we just have to wait for Aronis to do whatever Aronis wants to do. We're stuck...

Formerfish · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:39 am

If Adonis is scum what will his response be? Ice guy is lying, I totes sent fruit! If he is town and did send fruit then he is going yo say he did send it and we are back at square one with him pointing a finger at Ice and Ice pointing one back.

The lynch today is Adonis, Ice, or Don.

Bins · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:43 am

I doubt we end up lynching Don. Plus, I'd rather not.

Formerfish · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:45 am

Have to put him on the list as a suspect though, not doing so is stupid play.also, notice I have him last.

Bins · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:51 am

Didn't realize they were in a special order.

ARONIS YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME, JUST TELL US IF YOU SUBMITTED AN ACTION OR NOT. zzz.

neil1113 · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:57 am

In post 658, don_johnson wrote:someone died. unless the scum are paired, whoever didn't give fruit is scum. right? if aronis flips town, then we know a)dj is not scum b)ice is not scum(unless aronis accuses him of lying) and c) scum is in a pair. right? I don't know. this is gonna make my head hurt, but let me know if I'm wrong. what are the possibilities here?

In post 666, Formerfish wrote:If Adonis is scum what will his response be? Ice guy is lying, I totes sent fruit! If he is town and did send fruit then he is going yo say he did send it and we are back at square one with him pointing a finger at Ice and Ice pointing one back.

The lynch today is Adonis, Ice, or Don.

In post 668, Formerfish wrote:Have to put him on the list as a suspect though, not doing so is stupid play.also, notice I have him last.

If Aronis forgot about this game, and honestly isn't even realizing he's still in this game (his inactivity shows his lack of interest the past week or so now...)

Hmm. It makes sense. Perhaps Aronis forgot to send fruit, but received Ice's. Then it comes to debating: Trust Aronis' lack of interest in this game or not? If we do, that leaves us with one suspect.

Read the first quote. I've played with Don multiple times. He's not this dumb, to be playing that way and asking those questions. "Someones died" yet doesn't clarify it's HIS partner? Notice how several options seem to be clearing him... with no common sense? He's confirmed town if Aronis flips town? How? Why would you even draw that conclusion? And if scum is in a pair, that clears Don as town, so Don is trying to push that idea too... trying to push our attention anywhere except himself.

While I may be off about Don and Siv's team (considering Siv flipped town, which I'm honestly still shocked by)... then Don would have to be scum. Don killed Bulge to escape giving fruit.

(Obviously this is all dependent on Aronis coming back and giving us some type of response.)

Bins · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:02 am

I'd lynch you if we didn't have to deal with this damn fruit.

I don't believe Don is scum. And I don't believe Aronis would not pass and kill.

neil1113 · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:13 am

In post 671, Bins wrote:I'd lynch you if we didn't have to deal with this damn fruit.

I don't believe Don is scum. And I don't believe Aronis would not pass and kill.

You keep saying things like "I'd lynch you" and "I bet Neil and Math are a scum team." Yet you've given nothing to attribute to this wonderful read of yours and hell... you haven't even been bothered to make a case (or attempt to)...

I can see if you're half-assing this game, how easy it'd be to say "Neil and Math are a scum team because Neil freed Math when Math was the leading wagon, and single handedly led the wagon on another townie saving his partner!"

Except for a couple things. 1. The Math wagon was terrible, and everybody knew it. Nobody could make a case on Math with a straight face. There was nothing scummy about him. The only difference? I pointed it out with facts and evidence. 2. When I first replaced in, I anticipated my vote going on Math like my predecessor's was (you really think my pred was bussing his partner hardcore for... no reason? Even when Math was the leading wagon?) which if you do a quick ISO, you can see my intentions in my first few posts. 3. I am as responsible for Siv's lynch as everyone's vote on him was... and that includes you, Ms. Sunshine.

I'd love to see you try and actually make a case on me, or that me and Math are a scum team. If you look at my predecessors play against Math, it's pretty easy to see, unless you think we were trying some elaborate gambit that I somehow decided to completely DESTROY with my actual cases, that the scumteam between us is highly unlikely. In fact, I can think of a couple that are more likely... like every other group. Tell me also, how you can objectively look at the pairs, and clear any of them?

Bins · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:15 am

Your first two posts entering today have been nothing but scummy.

neil1113 · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:19 am

In post 673, Bins wrote:Your first two posts entering today have been nothing but scummy.

This is not a case. Come on, I know you can do it....

Continue. Why are my posts "nothing but scummy"? What makes them more scum motivated than town motivated? What makes them scum-tells instead of null-tells? What about them are so damn convincing, that it completely wipes out every other post and read my slot has made / given, the entire 27 pages of this game? I'm more than interested in hearing this.