NY175: Sycamore Scuffle

[Juls]

There has been 2 kills every night despite our vig dying. The only way that works is if there was a backup vig.

[Wake1]

Juls, read his posts. It was more than obvious what he was doing. He's making himself look like he was crumbing Cop, and now he's bussing his partner. You don't crumb by dropping loaves of bread. You make it

subtle

. That's the whole point of crumbing.

[Toomai]

Votecount D4-5

TheAdrienC	L-7	0	—
Wake88	L-7	0	—
Burning_TowN	L-7	0	—
shaddowez	L-7	0	—
Mirhawk	L-7	0	—
Aegor	L-4	3	BP, Aeronaut, Burning_TowN
TheWayItEnds	L-7	0	—
Boonskiies	L-6	1	—
BroodKingEXE	L-7	0	—
Juls	L-6	1	BroodKingEXE
Aeronaut	L-7	0	—
BP	L-0	7	Aegor, TheWayItEnds, Wake88, TheAdrienC, Juls, Mirhawk, Boonskiies

Not voting:

shaddowez
With

12

alive it takes

7

to lynch.

Current deadline

18/08/2014 13:01 (EDT)
(expired on 2014-08-18 13:01:40)

[Toomai]

Day four of the ordeal went by at a similar pace to the last. Good ol' Billie came out strong against Cecil and in no time flat his membership was torn up and his rear removed from the Masters' Word posthaste. As he stomped down the road he was heard mouthing off about the club's attitude - that's good enough for them.

BP

was a

Mafia Goon

.

Night 4 begins.

Current deadline

08/08/2014 09:54 (EDT)
(expired on 2014-08-08 09:54:09)

[Toomai]

Nobody was really surprised when Billie elected to not show up the next day owing to a serious case of dead. And Kristofer was the other one of the now-expected two - but why was there so much more police activity around both of the news reports? They knew Billie had a cousin in the force, but there was no reason for the cops to be searching for secret rooms in Kristofer's house, right?

Aegor

was a

Town Fibonacci-Night Cop

.

TheWayItEnds

was a

Mafia Goon

.

Day 5 begins.

With 9 alive, the deadline is 13 days.

Current deadline

21/08/2014 10:14 (EDT)
(expired on 2014-08-21 10:14:54)

[BP]

Baaaaaaaaaah. Well I guess I'll be going back to Portugal then. I'll come back by endgame :p

[TheAdrienC]

Dat crossfire! At least the mafia itself should be crippled by now. Wake, since you're the one who has been analyzing set-up, how many scums of either faction do you think are left?

[Mirhawk]

Ha I knew Scarab was scummy. More seriously though that was a handy kill.

Does anyone know what a fibbonacci night cop is? I have a couple ideas but I want to know what some other people think before I go shooting off my mouth.

[Boonskiies]

I think it's just for flavor.

[Boonskiies]

there's probably 5 scum total, unless multiball, which would bring us to 6. 3 of each. I believe we have a vig, and not a SK in the game. we've hit 3 mafia, so i doubt it's multiball. I'm going to say there are 2 scum left, which is really in our favor. BP had previously tried bussing his scum partner in Scarab/TheWayItEnds, so I am not doubting that he had a couple more semi buses in there. BP flipping scum, and Aegor flipping town, and after checking BP's ISO, I see either Wake or Adrien lynch being the most beneficial. BP likes to go after his scum buddies when scum hunting as scum. He doesn't put a lot of pressure on them, yet will still vote, but he's easy to unvote. He only had a FoS on Adrien, and then he ended up actually agreeing with him later. And Wake he did the same thing he did with Scarab's slot.

[Juls]

Fibonacci likely means he could cop on Fibonacci nights:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number

[Juls]

With 3 mafia flipped and no other faction I am guessing we have mafia + serial killer. I need to go back and see if Aegor cleared anybody on previous nights.

[Juls]

@Aegor Why do you think we absolutely can't lynch Boon today?

You can try.

I don't know if you've answered that before, but you seem pretty sure of it. I also don't understand why It'd be OK to lynch him tomorrow but not today.

He is not an interesting target today, and I think he is town. Plus the people voting him (especially Alina) are tunneling, so it would be nice to see them pursue other targets. I am pretty sure he is town.

Boon was probably investigated.

[Boonskiies]

in a 21 person game 5 mafia isn't too much. I'm not convinced of the SK

[Wake1]

Dat crossfire! At least the mafia itself should be crippled by now. Wake, since you're the one who has been analyzing set-up, how many scums of either faction do you think are left?

1 SK, 1 Mafia. That's what I'm most familiar with. If it were 5 Mafia that wouldn't explain the two NKs, unless there is indeed a living NORMALTown Vig that has been killing the last couple Nights. That Boonskies suggests there's 5 Mafia is a problem coming from where I'm standing, atm.

And I'm really fucking surprised Aegor was Town. Who the HELL drops obscenely obvious hints and calls them crumbs?

If memory serves, Normals don't have flavor in their Role PMs. (I may be wrong). Fibonacci likely has meaning, and if Toomai could clear that up that'd be great, because I've never encountered that modifier before.

[Juls]

Yeh it was a stupid move all right. Certainly doesn't make me want to move my vote off him.

You should move your vote off of him and onto HS. Boonskiies is town, and I do not change scumreads to townreads very often.

More proof that Boon was investigated and found to be innocent.

[Juls]

What read? Between pages 7 and 10,back when I was skimming through the thread? What read?

Are you not reading my posts? I'm gonna do that then.

Farside

- town.

Sal and replacement

- town
Aeronaut - null leaning town
Adrien - either scum or VI

Reinoe

- null

SKOT

- very idiot town
Wake - scum

Scarab

- scumrab

Hunter

- idiot, either town or scum

Clusk

- scum

Soren

- null null

Aegor

- leaning town

Alina

- town champion
BroodKing - nullker

Boonskiies

- town?

Non flipped reads (excluding myself and Boon)

Aeronaut - null leaning town
Adrien - either scum or VI
Wake - scum
BroodKing - nullker

I suspect she would spread the reads around which means we are missing a town read on a partner. And she lists Aero as town (which lines up for me cause I suspect him)

VOTE: Aeronaut
Please sheep me.

[Juls]

That Broodking read also looks jokey like the Scarab read so...I don't know.

[Juls]

Also, they (the flipped scum) all voted/pushed Wake a lot. I am not sure if it was a bus or wake is an easy target.

[Boonskiies]

Damn, I forgot about Aero.

[Aeronaut]

What read? Between pages 7 and 10,back when I was skimming through the thread? What read?

Are you not reading my posts? I'm gonna do that then.

Farside

- town.

Sal and replacement

- town
Aeronaut - null leaning town
Adrien - either scum or VI

Reinoe

- null

SKOT

- very idiot town
Wake - scum

Scarab

- scumrab

Hunter

- idiot, either town or scum

Clusk

- scum

Soren

- null null

Aegor

- leaning town

Alina

- town champion
BroodKing - nullker

Boonskiies

- town?

Non flipped reads (excluding myself and Boon)

Aeronaut - null leaning town
Adrien - either scum or VI
Wake - scum
BroodKing - nullker

I suspect she would spread the reads around which means we are missing a town read on a partner. And she lists Aero as town (which lines up for me cause I suspect him)

VOTE: Aeronaut
Please sheep me.

This is invalid, because of this:

Scarab

- scumrab

BP called Scarab scum, and he was scum. That means that everyone's alignment isn't necessarily the opposite of what BP said. Not sure why he'd call out scarab like that... maybe it's multiball after all?

moving on...

I'm actually leaning less scum on Juls I think... My theory before that she was being protected by Aegor and TWIE is less valid because Aegor was indeed the cop, but not nessesarily gone, because TWIE could have still seen the opportunity and taken it. Although now that I think about it, it doesn't make sense for him to buss one scum buddy to save another...

Juls is probably town, unless he really just didn't know what he was doing.

It might make sense to look more at Aegor's reads than it would to look at BP's and assuming that the opposite of what he said was always true. Anything could be distancing, bussing, or just random garble to throw us off.

@Wake:

If you were so sure Aegor was scum, why would you blindly vote with him?

[Boonskiies]

I don't believe it's multiball at all at this point. BP called Scarab scum. He was on the same scum team as BP. He was just voting and giving some pressure for town cred. 2345 to me, looks like Aero is AtE'ing Juls which makes me feel inclined he's scum. Especially since he tries to change the subject.


VOTE: Aeronaut

[Aeronaut]

I'm appealing to emotion? You may want to look up your terms before you use them incorrectly.

[Mirhawk]

@Juls
Actually I think you're right about the Fibbonacci numbers. I was at first thinking it could have been the name of one scum faction, and that he was a cop that could only find one faction. But your idea seems much more likely, especially given the way Toomai worded the role.

@Aeronaut
Pretty sure Juls is referring to whether we know a players alignment or not when she says flipped.

In any case I figure we have either one or two scum left, as well as a serial killer. I also figure that if Aeronaut, Adrien, Burning_Town, and Wake all died we'd be done.

Vote Aeronaut

[Mirhawk]

Oh and I think that's L-2.