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Post Post #33400 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:27 am

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I've used it to vent, before. It's great at that.
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Post Post #33401 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:55 am

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In post 33396, PJ. wrote:
In post 33393, KaleiÐoscøpe wrote:
In post 33390, JasonWazza wrote:That fizz probably wasn't having fun (did their jungler gank?)

Also i find it kinda funny that the support almost has more CS then him.
Their jungler ganked like three times and succeeded once.

The enemy team asked for a report him but I felt too bad for him. I was amazed how he was silver 1 though.


Silver 1 is like being the smartest kid in the slow class. Also it's a pretty hard counter lane if he doesn't kill you at level 3, which i'm gonna have to assume he didn't.
He did actually. I misscalculated the range of Amumu's Q. He hit me with the tip and then I was pretty much dead right then and there. But he still played the lane all scared, which is the wrong idea if you're playing an assassin.
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Post Post #33402 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:39 am

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So i had a game as ziggs mid against a Quinn mid earlier, and she posed a massive fucking problem that i want to see what i should have done (because honestly i really didn't know how to stop it.)

What do i do as a mid laner against a quinn mid when, everytime she has her ultimate, she roams and gets kills (because there is no way i can catch valor).

Cause fuck she was scary effective, she'd be gone from lane for like 10 seconds (i was calling my MIA's) but was already at the other lane getting a kill or 2.
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Post Post #33403 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:47 am

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Nothing. If your lanes don't back the fuck off when you call a mia quinn mid they deserve their demise.
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Post Post #33404 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:50 am

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In post 33403, dramonic wrote:Nothing. If your lanes don't back the fuck off when you call a mia quinn mid they deserve their demise.


But the thing is we lost the game because of the fed quinn that was ridiculously efficient, what CAN i do to stop this from happening?

I mean like the first time she left i didn't ping till she was like a second out of the bottom lane because i hadn't actually realized how quickly she'd get down there, but after that i was really on top of the MIA's just couldn't do anything to stop her from roaming.
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Post Post #33405 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 3:55 am

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asdfasdfdf

FUCKING KASSADIN 22/1 UGH
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Post Post #33406 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:01 am

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my adc (m) was 7/0 coming out of lane


we couldn't do anything

it was *poof, everything dies, poof*
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Post Post #33407 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:02 am

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I probably should've itemized against him (e.g. Merc Scimitar, Banshee's) but fuck, I doubt it would've made a difference. How does one actually peel a fucking Kassadin?

Oh, and I'm Silver III now. Hi Ani. :P

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Post Post #33408 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:11 am

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In post 33404, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 33403, dramonic wrote:Nothing. If your lanes don't back the fuck off when you call a mia quinn mid they deserve their demise.


But the thing is we lost the game because of the fed quinn that was ridiculously efficient, what CAN i do to stop this from happening?

I mean like the first time she left i didn't ping till she was like a second out of the bottom lane because i hadn't actually realized how quickly she'd get down there, but after that i was really on top of the MIA's just couldn't do anything to stop her from roaming.

Push really damn hard so that she loses a turret/substantial amounts of CS every time she roams.
Also, if she's pushed to turret and getting poked at a lot, she can't roam.
You can lock down all roaming champions this way.

And/or ward halfway between mid and bot. Or mid and top.
Usually the pixel bush or the bush on the enemy side river ramp.
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Post Post #33409 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:13 am

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In post 33407, Maestro wrote:How does one actually peel a fucking Kassadin?

same thing with olaf
keel it
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Post Post #33410 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:13 am

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In post 33402, JasonWazza wrote:So i had a game as ziggs mid against a Quinn mid earlier, and she posed a massive fucking problem that i want to see what i should have done (because honestly i really didn't know how to stop it.)

What do i do as a mid laner against a quinn mid when, everytime she has her ultimate, she roams and gets kills (because there is no way i can catch valor).

Cause fuck she was scary effective, she'd be gone from lane for like 10 seconds (i was calling my MIA's) but was already at the other lane getting a kill or 2.


1) you need to ward the exits to your lane and ping which way she's going. Mia means jack shit and will make all your lanes lose if you don't know where Quinn (or any midlaner) is roaming. You should get a sweeper after your first or second back and always have a pink an at least one green down on the map.

2) push. Make her pay for her roam by putting her behind on cs and taking turrets for map control.
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Post Post #33411 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:48 am

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Yeah

A trick I use is ping missing on the lane the roamer is going to because they're a lot more likely to notice.
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Post Post #33412 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 4:51 am

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In post 33409, Saki wrote:
In post 33407, Maestro wrote:How does one actually peel a fucking Kassadin?

same thing with olaf
keel it

this is impossible

POOF
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Post Post #33413 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:19 am

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In post 33408, Saki wrote:
Push really damn hard so that she loses a turret/substantial amounts of CS every time she roams.
Also, if she's pushed to turret and getting poked at a lot, she can't roam.
You can lock down all roaming champions this way.

And/or ward halfway between mid and bot. Or mid and top.
Usually the pixel bush or the bush on the enemy side river ramp.


I pushed hard each time, but jungle nasus always came mid when it happened and quinn was really quick both ways, and i couldn't outpush her without her jumping me and fucking me.

In post 33410, BROseidon wrote:
In post 33402, JasonWazza wrote:So i had a game as ziggs mid against a Quinn mid earlier, and she posed a massive fucking problem that i want to see what i should have done (because honestly i really didn't know how to stop it.)

What do i do as a mid laner against a quinn mid when, everytime she has her ultimate, she roams and gets kills (because there is no way i can catch valor).

Cause fuck she was scary effective, she'd be gone from lane for like 10 seconds (i was calling my MIA's) but was already at the other lane getting a kill or 2.


1) you need to ward the exits to your lane and ping which way she's going. Mia means jack shit and will make all your lanes lose if you don't know where Quinn (or any midlaner) is roaming. You should get a sweeper after your first or second back and always have a pink an at least one green down on the map.

2) push. Make her pay for her roam by putting her behind on cs and taking turrets for map control.


1) i always ping MIA my lane and danger in the lane they are heading (and generally along the path they are heading).

As a note, is pushing the only thing i can do, because when the quinn ends up 16/0/2 stopping her CSing won't really do much.
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Post Post #33414 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:55 am

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Pings and mias aren't enough. Buy wards
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Post Post #33415 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:10 am

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In post 33412, Klazam wrote:
In post 33409, Saki wrote:
In post 33407, Maestro wrote:How does one actually peel a fucking Kassadin?

same thing with olaf
keel it

this is impossible

POOF

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save all of your hard cc/big damage cooldowns for him if he's that big
he has to get close to do damage
if his team can win teamfights without him being close enough to do damage then consider surrendering

In post 33413, JasonWazza wrote:I pushed hard each time, but jungle nasus always came mid when it happened and quinn was really quick both ways, and i couldn't outpush her without her jumping me and fucking me.

she has 525 auto range and 700 range on E
you can dance outside her range and poke with q/w
also her vault is a one-time gap closer so you can just satchel charge away (if you have to at all)
if she vaults to you just throw a minefield where she lands and you'll be fine

if she's using ult to chase you down/burst you
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try your best to get away to your turret else you're fucked

you can play really aggressive vs a nasus jungle if he's alone to cover while quinn is roaming
force him to back off then take the turret/keep pushing/w.e
if he's ganking you while you push then make sure you're warding and/or aware of how far you can go in lane w/o dying
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Post Post #33416 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:11 am

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In post 33408, Saki wrote:Push really damn hard so that she loses a turret/substantial amounts of CS every time she roams.
Also, if she's pushed to turret and getting poked at a lot, she can't roam.
You can lock down all roaming champions this way.

And/or ward halfway between mid and bot. Or mid and top.
Usually the pixel bush or the bush on the enemy side river ramp.
And ping them when they walk/run/fly/slither/etc past it.

^ do the bolded and your team will react 100%
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Post Post #33417 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:14 am

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Fear the Horsey!

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On a sidenote, I feel like Arcade Hecarim gives the player a tiny bit of help as of compared to the other skins. Arcade Hecarim gives you visual queues on your Q stacks, and the progression of your E. It's helpful.
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Post Post #33418 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:41 pm

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Just played against a battlecast chogath. Why does his q throw you way higher up?
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Post Post #33419 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:14 pm

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guuuuuuuuuuys if you ACTUALLY think skins make a difference (besides I guess silly aesthetic stuff like Venmar) you're as dumb as that one guy who made that one thread on the League forums about which skins offer tactical advantages over classics
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Post Post #33420 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:16 pm

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Some skins do have differences- like demonblade tryndamere having a slightly longer crit animation than others.
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Post Post #33421 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:19 pm

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Post Post #33422 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:32 pm

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In post 33419, Maestro wrote:guuuuuuuuuuys if you ACTUALLY think skins make a difference (besides I guess silly aesthetic stuff like Venmar) you're as dumb as that one guy who made that one thread on the League forums about which skins offer tactical advantages over classics

Yeah, skins don't give you an advantage. Some skins like Arcade Hecarim though I feel like they have aesthetics that help you remember/notice their abilities more. I think this applies to most Arcade skins actually, just because of their design.
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Post Post #33423 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:41 pm

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Post Post #33424 (ISO) » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:11 pm

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Yeah

I think in OGN they used to have to play arcade sona skin if they played sona b/c of stuff being terrible otherwise.

I think steel legion lux gives you an advantage b/c it's IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE THE E.

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