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[Juls]

Which means I think we should either Juls or Hito, and if the one we lynched flips town, Pasch should shoot the other?

I agree with this but paranoia!!!

[Juls]

Hito explain how a SK and 3 scum and a survivor is balanced?

[Venmar]

Lynching Juls, then shooting Hito if she flips town I think is the best course of action?

[xRECKONERx]

VOTE: hitogoroshi

Lemme spin this town a tale. And if you don't believe me I don't think I give a fuck, but listen:

hito & I get townvibes off of each other D1. I neighborize him. Cool.

In order to do a reaction test when we get our QT, I claim traitor to him. He laughs and keeps asking me about my role until he finds a way to say, "I think it is literally anti-town to try and lynch you" so that he doesn't have to assume responsibility. I do not die N1, hito does not die N1. Alright, moving on...

D2 happens, blah blah blah, who cares. N2, I ask hito who I should add to our neighborhood. I didn't check it in time to get his response, but he said I should neighborize Formerfish because he looked the most town, and guess who died N2? Formerfish.

Hito keeps pushing the Pasch-SK angle. I choose to neighborize Juls. Hito blows up in the QT about how the ABR kill by Pasch was in no way a vig shot because ABR did not look like scum. I really don't see it as that big of a deal, and it's like he was trying to push it harder than it actually was.

I legitimately think it's hito here, with Juls as an outside shot due to her play today.

[hitogoroshi]

So you legitimately think it's me, and you want me lynched?

[Venmar]

If we a SK, the better course of action would be to lynch the last scum anyways, since Reck could have mercy and lynch the SK next day with the last living Townie.

[Juls]

I want Pasch to weigh in but I obviously would rather have hito lynched.

[Venmar]

I also believe Hito was one of the other people in addition to me that thought ABR was super town, so his blowup kind of makes sense? Although the rest of that post does point to Hito scum based on his QT interactions.

[xRECKONERx]

So you legitimately think it's me, and you want me lynched?

I don't know. I don't fucking know, man. You've been my townbro this game but I keep forgetting I'm not actually town. -_-

I can weave you as mafia into a narrative that works in my head. I can kind of do the same with Juls. I cannot find a way to justify a lynch on Paschendale or Venmar, though.

It's you or Juls, and now that I'm typing this, I realize I might've fucked myself because I need to neighborize THREE people, and if we lynch mafia today, the game ends, and I lose because I couldn't neighborize a third person. :'(

[Juls]

Reck, how have I "played" today that makes you think there is an outside chance?

[xRECKONERx]

Fucking calm down Reck, you wouldn't have a SK wincon no matter what.

HOLY SHIT GUYS, MY WINCON SAYS I WIN WITH TOWN. SK DISPROVED!

I'm a

survivor

. Survivors needs to be alive when a faction achieves their wincon... if there is an SK, it means I'm not a full survivor and I cannot win with the SK, which is NOT HOW SURVIVOR WORKS. The role PM I got specifically only mentions the scum and town factions. If there was an SK, Izzy would've worded it differently.

[Venmar]

Paschendale

Acknowledge that you will shoot the one out of Hito/Juls that we do not lynch today, if the lynchee flips town.

[Venmar]

I'm a

survivor

. Survivors needs to be alive when a faction achieves their wincon... if there is an SK, it means I'm not a full survivor and I cannot win with the SK, which is NOT HOW SURVIVOR WORKS. The role PM I got specifically only mentions the scum and town factions. If there was an SK, Izzy would've worded it differently.

Maybe, idk, idc, fuck the SK, town loses if they exist anyways. Lets just lynch the last scum.

[xRECKONERx]

Reck, how have I "played" today that makes you think there is an outside chance?

Very opportunistic. Suggesting the no lynch plan which would require two no lynches in a row to get to LYLO, giving scum two free kills. Outing me for no reason. Plus I haven't exactly had warm and fuzzies about you the whole game, and now it's end game pretty much and those feelings need to be applied to someone that isn't Pasch or Venmar.

[xRECKONERx]

God, I really wanted to win with hito if he was scum, too, because that'd be a story for the mafia grandkids. :\

[Juls]

It's basically hito and I will cry if it's Venmar and apologize to town.

[Venmar]

If Reck doesn't get his wincon this game, if he is actually a survivor, he will always be an honorary winner in my heart if the town wins.

[Venmar]

We should wait for the confirmation that Paschendale knows whats up, then we can lynch Hito or Juls.

[hitogoroshi]

Well damn, I wanted to be pimp as heck with my reveal but 1233 has it kind of.

If Reck's role works as claimed,

he has absolutely no incentive to lynch scum today

. It would make sense to lynch me (or Juls who I'm pretty sure is town is as well) if you were scum with a neighborizing ability. My only worry was that Reck did have the role has claimed, thought Pasch was an sk, thought Venmar was scum, and pulled his "happy town vibes :3" out of his ass to secure a mislynch. I don't think that's the case now, though.

Pasch-sk and Reck-scum makes everything work out perfectly and make sense. There's also this gem:

Pasch is confirmed not to be mafia (and is probably town) unless we're actually in 3-1-1 right now which is just clownshoes. In any case he's not the lynch for today.

Reck acknowledging 3-1-1 and not 2-1-1-1.

[xRECKONERx]

Hito-scum with the last ditch plays.

"reck admitted this thing already which means aha I've caught him and also he's bad at math"

[Venmar]

We're not lynching the SK if they exist. Town loses in that scenario. We lynch scum, and I kind of doubt it's Reck, so its you or Juls.

[xRECKONERx]

Can we just lynch hito now?

[hitogoroshi]

You're admitting that lynching me will make you lose if I'm scum,

while voting me.

This means that,

a.) You are deliberately acting against wincon

b.) You have the role as claimed, but do not believe I'm scum

c.) You do not have the role as claimed.

Admitting it means that a.) is

not an option

. So it's b) or c). I worried about b because it would make sense with your Venmar reversal if you believed Pasch-vig, Venmar-scum, but I don't think you would make post 1233 if we were in situation b). So it's c).

[xRECKONERx]

Nope, let me explain what's happening:

It's you or Juls. I don't know which. I've played my hand too quickly and forgotten I don't

actually

want to lynch scum today. However, I'm clearly not going to get a lynch on Pasch or Venmar today, so my only option is to literally flip a coin between you and Juls and hope that I'm right (or wrong?).

I'm not acting against my wincon. I'm accelerating the inevitable. I've stated already I don't know who it is out of you and Juls.

I'm up against the wall. I have no moves left. I got too excited and YET AGAIN forgot I'm not town this game as I've done several times, and it's too late now. I just have to hope that you (or Juls, whoever we lynch) is actually town and I'm just bad so that I can neighborize in the night.

[hitogoroshi]

We're not lynching the SK if they exist. Town loses in that scenario. We lynch scum, and I kind of doubt it's Reck, so its you or Juls.

Town only loses lynching Pasch-sk if Reck is truly a survivor and someone else is third scum. Otherwise, we can lynch Pasch-sk and then Reck-scum no problem.