X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (Game Over)

[borkjerfkin]

Not to mention I still have no reason to believe any town player visited nero n1

But id better not talk about that or toog will yell at me again

[PeregrineV]

but they really just have to ride the backs of stupid town

This being me then?

Nah, you actually have your reasons why you think Metal is scum. And although I disagree in this case, I can see why you think so.

Look at the other 7 votes. Do they seem like they scoured the corners of the thread for scum, or took the path of least resistance?

[borkjerfkin]

This entire game is an exercise in the path of least resistance for about 75% of the game

[PeregrineV]

Not to mention I still have no reason to believe any town player visited nero n1

But id better not talk about that or toog will yell at me again

Nah, I've played lots with Nero, and I could see myself copping him, or tracking him, or even doccing him if I thought he was town enough.

However, I've played lots with Nero, and I personally would never have him as a day1 target. But, I could see where people would either want him sorted or develop an opinion on him rather quickly.

[PeregrineV]

This entire game is an exercise in the path of least resistance for about 75% of the game

Which means you start looking at other things. Post/content ratios, dropoff in scum activity, etc.

But, yeah, I agree.

[borkjerfkin]

That's not my point. I COULD potentially see myself doing any of those things to Nero depending on the gamestate.

I just don't think anyone did due to a combination of claims I know to exist and people's attitude's toward the wagon. I'd expect that if I were the one that had visited Nero and MS correctly called that out, it would give me some amount of pause.

We also know the role wasn't protective unless you want to say that other team also has a strongman (which I guess isn't impossible)

[PeregrineV]

That's not my point. I COULD potentially see myself doing any of those things to Nero depending on the gamestate.

I just don't think anyone did due to a combination of claims I know to exist and people's attitude's toward the wagon. I'd expect that if I were the one that had visited Nero and MS correctly called that out, it would give me some amount of pause.

We also know the role wasn't protective unless you want to say that other team also has a strongman (which I guess isn't impossible)

At this point while fun speculation, it would mostly be a thought exercise. The Metal wagon won't dissolve.

Given that he knows he's getitng lynched, and is town, his results are accurate. As a matter of fact, Metal is town and the act of watching him means town DID visit Nero. ika was probably Jailkept, probably by scum to prevent his tracking, giving a no result.

[PeregrineV]

You are being unnecessarily fucking vague for a purpose that I can only assume is to stall.

Me? Stall? I'm actively advocating my own lynch, lol!

While doing politically correct actions (e.g. voting the biggest counterwagon, attempting to look for scum), in order to avoid another mishap (you know what I'm talking about)

If you think that any sane scum would fakeclaim a role that is so easily contradictable, and also 3 separate targets each night to fabricate results for, and to also remember all of them so as to not slip/trip/contradict self, you are

greatly mistaken.

Night 1

Nero was visited by The Horsemen, Town

Bork was visited by Town

s4td was visited by Town

Night 2

Bork was visited by Town

ETL was visited by Town

Ika received No Result




now somebody faster counter claim me so that i can be lynched come on scum its your only chance

in return if nobody contradicts me i get a free pass till lylo cause enough of this

He is the town doing the visiting, regardless of any other town that visited. Probably.

[borkjerfkin]

ika was probably Jailkept, probably by scum to prevent his tracking, giving a no result.

Jailkeepers don't work like that

[borkjerfkin]

He is the town doing the visiting, regardless of any other town that visited. Probably.

Metal has made no statement that this is the case

And if the role does work like that it's fucking dumb

[PeregrineV]

ika was probably Jailkept, probably by scum to prevent his tracking, giving a no result.

Jailkeepers don't work like that

Sure they do. Nothing gets in, nothing gets out.

[PeregrineV]

He is the town doing the visiting, regardless of any other town that visited. Probably.

Metal has made no statement that this is the case

And if the role does work like that it's fucking dumb

Bang Mafia when I watched, I was given a list that included me. In Revolution I watched, it did not include me.

Given that Metal gets three targets, the limiting factor would be to determine if scum visited a player, but maybe hide the fact that town did.

[borkjerfkin]

Sure they do. Nothing gets in, nothing gets out.

No.

Jailkeepers do not prevent actions from being done on a person, just actions taken BY that person.

[borkjerfkin]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper

There actually is a variant that does what you said but I've literally never seen it used

[PeregrineV]

Sure they do. Nothing gets in, nothing gets out.

No.

Jailkeepers do not prevent actions from being done on a person, just actions taken BY that person.

Your right. Maybe the Alien variant?

If not, then why does ika have "no result" when being watched?

[borkjerfkin]

Good question.

[PeregrineV]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Jailkeeper

There actually is a variant that does what you said but I've literally never seen it used

Yeah, maybe commuter, but we assume Speaker is only town commuter.

Or ninja. Can ninjas be watched?

[PeregrineV]

Meh, I think ninja stops kills form being seen, but if you watch them they should give results.

[PeregrineV]

Given Metals weird role and SUperheros and such, could see Alien I suppose. Maybe.

[borkjerfkin]

Ninjas are immune to watching

[PeregrineV]

Ninjas are immune to watching

If you watch their target. You can probably watch them, but not track them.

[borkjerfkin]

You could watch them, yes

[PeregrineV]

You could watch them, yes

ika claimed VT, so either lying or outside effect on him. Assuming Metal townflip (which I do).

[borkjerfkin]

Anyway I have reached critical burnout on this and it doesn't particularly look like anything I am posting is affecting anyone's opinion in any meaningful way nor is it getting me any personally closer to the truth of it

So come what may

[PeregrineV]

You'll get a break in 2 hours or so anyway.