NY175: Sycamore Scuffle

[TheAdrienC]

Maybe one of the other two factions targeted me and didn't want to say anything?

[shaddowez]

That's a good possibility as well, and I honestly don't know why I keep forgetting about that.

[shaddowez]

I would still be surprised if the last scum doesn't have some power, considering how many roles we have had and the only non-goon role we've seen flip was Godfather.

[Wake1]

My paranoia is acting up.

I have a dreadful feeling that Adrien could be Scum. Damn it.

Why the Hell would Toomai add that bit about using a factional ability and a personal ability at the same damned time, yet make the Mafia team be comprised of 1 Godfather and 3 Goons???

Guys, I beg you to please wait with voting.

[shaddowez]

You and Boon are the only ones with votes out there at the moment

[Burning_TowN]

I think it is shaddowez. Mostly because wake looks town and shaddowez isn't me; who's town

-B_E

[shaddowez]

I think it is shaddowez. Mostly because wake looks town and shaddowez isn't me; who's town

-B_E

That's funny, because I could use the exact same argument. However, I'm leaning more and more towards Adrien. Except for the very first lynch, Adrien has been on every lynch wagon (and the first one he was voting for HS, which was a pretty good wagon for a while). The

only

scum we've lynched has been due to Aegor's crumb, so it would do for scum to bus that one. Throughout the game he had pretty strong arguments with both Wake and Juls, who made it to (or very close to) endgame. If he can commute and kill, as Toomai's post suggests, it's very possible that he is scum. Wake's posts toDay have been making me lean more and more town on him. Unless someone can convince me otherwise, (or the Day is over by the time I get on), I will be voting for Adrien tomorrow night.

[Burning_Earth]

but if wake vigs there won't be a tomorrow?

Stop overthinking it guys. Just vote me or shaddowez and wake can vig the other. Unless the other is me. In which case boooooooooooooo we lost. LOSING IS BAD.\

B_E

[Burning_TowN]

but if wake vigs there won't be a tomorrow?

Stop overthinking it guys. Just vote me or shaddowez and wake can vig the other. Unless the other is me. In which case boooooooooooooo we lost. LOSING IS BAD.\

B_E

oopsie daisy

[shaddowez]

The only way there won't be a tomorrow is if there are two scum left. If that's the case and we mislynch, Wake would have to vig scum to keep the game going

[Burning_Earth]

Oh

Well ok I was wrong. Let's just destroy me shaddowez and wake in any order.

Let's start with shaddowez VOTE: Shaddwez

[Burning_Earth]

Oh not wake, boon

[Burning_TowN]

Oh

Well ok I was wrong. Let's just destroy me shaddowez and wake in any order.

Let's start with shaddowez VOTE: Shaddwez

*facepalm*

UNVOTE:

~tn5421

[Wake1]

I think I'd be wise to check if Aegor crumbed that Boonskiies was innocent.

Toomai's factional clause about a person using two abilities at once is bothering me. I can see it being broken for someone to commute and kill at the same time, but roleblock and kill seems a bit less overpowered. That would also explain Night 5.

If Toomai really did have five Mafia in this game, and my vote's got shaddowez pinned down... and he's Town... why haven't both hypothetical Scum jumped on it for game? They would have had more than enough time. I don't think Toomai would be cruel like that and have us deal with five Mafia. My vote will stay on shaddowez today.

TN, talk more, please. Boonskiies, if you're Town, don't do anything silly. Unless it entails voting for shaddowez. Speaking of which, why the unvote, B_T? *Looks at the smaller head*

[Wake1]

Why would the factional bit that allows a player two abilities in one Night be added if it's not getting used?

...

This is starting to disturb me.

There must be a Mafia PR that can kill and use an ability (like roleblocking). If not, then the mention about the Factional multi-abilities is pointless.

...

UNVOTE: shaddowez

A role should exist in the Scum team that can use both abilities at once. That would explain one AdrienC being able to roleblock me and call it commuting, while killing someone else. Or, Toomai just put that bit in there to screw with us, which'll get me ticked.

Adrien, you're not talking enough.

[Wake1]

Well, that was fast.

You should move your vote off of him and onto HS. Boonskiies is town, and I do not change scumreads to townreads very often.

We're not lynching Boonskiies today. Or ever, for that matter.

[Burning_TowN]

Sometimes I think my other head isn't much better than Boonskiies TBH, thats why I unvoted.

@Wake: Probably there is a role that can do both and a role that can't do both.

If he is really a scum commuter he's probably the role that can't do both.

Also: my other head didn't even spell the guys name right, I don't think
If nobody can come up with a better game plan, lynch shadow-ez and vig us.

VOTE: shaddowez


~tn5421

[Wake1]

Not liking this dispassion, guys.

[TheAdrienC]

Sorry about me not being here a lot. I'm still waiting for AT&T to fix our internet.

If I had claimed I was a commuter just now, I could see you saying "Oh maybe he's a roleblocker". But I claimed it day one so I have to have "winning the lottery luck" to fakeclaim it as a roleblocker and block you from killing me. How would I know you were killing me when you gave no indication of targeting me? How would I know you were a vig? Keep in mind, my first reaction when I saw that post of your old targets was a scum slip and I immediately voted for you, meaning I had no indication you were a vig.

Couldn't the mafia have something like a role cop to search for PRs?

[Wake1]

Aegor left no crumbs about shaddowez's alignment. Thought I had something on Adrien from Aegor's view in 1806. It looks like he had B_T at nullish in 2048.

[Wake1]

Why isn't B_T angry or emotional or fighting to not have us follow through on lynching shaddowez and Vigging him? Town would probably have some fire in the belly, especially if there were two heads. Then again, maybe B_T is Town and suspects shaddowez, and figures it's game if we plug him.

Adrien, vote shaddowez please.

...would Scum-tn5421 and Scum-Burning-Earth leave me alive on purpose, because they view me as a weak player? Not sure if Adrien would, or shaddowez.

[Wake1]

Tn, B_E voted shaddowez and then you unvoted, and then voted shaddowez.

Why?

[Wake1]

Sorry about me not being here a lot. I'm still waiting for AT&T to fix our internet.

If I had claimed I was a commuter just now, I could see you saying "Oh maybe he's a roleblocker". But I claimed it day one so I have to have "winning the lottery luck" to fakeclaim it as a roleblocker and block you from killing me. How would I know you were killing me when you gave no indication of targeting me? How would I know you were a vig? Keep in mind, my first reaction when I saw that post of your old targets was a scum slip and I immediately voted for you, meaning I had no indication you were a vig.

Couldn't the mafia have something like a role cop to search for PRs?

Yeah, you claimed Day 1, yet here you are, Day 7, alive.

It doesn't take a genius to discern my crumbs Days in advance. The moment I brought up there maybe being an ON-Vig is the moment people should have realized I was crumbing my role.

[Wake1]

Checking something. We need to look over how the three dead Mafia mingled with Adrien, shaddowez, and B_T. What they did and didn't do around them in this game.

[TheAdrienC]

Heh, I actually were suspicious you were the SK with your crumbs, to be honest. Then Aero flipped.