X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (Game Over)

[Cloud Nine]

My point being that I don't get mad at mafia often, but you kinda pissed me off Venmar.

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest on who's better at mafia, I'd rather just thrash him in the scummies this year.

[borkjerfkin]

Meh, I don't get personally offended, it's a shame Nat did. Truth hurts.

Also, what track from Snowstorm? Only one I know if the Feu track.

That's the one - he tracked Feu to ETL AND You.
Desp confirmed scum can't kill and use a second action in the same night unless he is the last scum. I don't think he is (otherwise you have a team of two in here and that's kinda weird given the setup)

So Feu very likely did not actually perform a killing action.
Toog's role only works on people performing a killing action.

This is a problem.

[borkjerfkin]

Desp: hypothetical:

Player A Redirects Player B (who was going to visit player C) to player D instead.

Player E tracks Player B and is not interfered with.

What result does Player E get?

[Venmar]

I'd rather just thrash him in the scummies this year.

I don't even know what the means?

I mean, that's exactly my point. I don't make things personal or let them carry over games. I mean, I really like Titus and despite our strong disagreements in this game, I hold no grudge over her, if anything I hold it over myself, and I hope that goes the same for her. You directly insulted me, and now you're crying about it because I lashed out at you for doing so. Grow some balls and don't take things so personally like a 16 year old girl.

If you are going to purposefully attack me post-game, then you are incredibly childish.

[Venmar]

Meh, I don't get personally offended, it's a shame Nat did. Truth hurts.

Also, what track from Snowstorm? Only one I know if the Feu track.

That's the one - he tracked Feu to ETL AND You.
Desp confirmed scum can't kill and use a second action in the same night unless he is the last scum. I don't think he is (otherwise you have a team of two in here and that's kinda weird given the setup)

So Feu very likely did not actually perform a killing action.
Toog's role only works on people performing a killing action.

This is a problem.

Feu had a Bus Driver or Redirector JOAT shot. Since ETL died, I think it's more likely that he bussed me with ETL, so that they could circumvent all protections on ETL to me, and shoot me to kill ETL.

If you think I'm red scum, and Feu redirected me to kill ETL, then that's your theory and I can't disprove it, but it's not true.

[borkjerfkin]

It's an argument for Toog scum. It has nothing to do with you.

[Venmar]

Why does Peregrine's amnesiac track result on Feu condemn Toog?

[borkjerfkin]

#6001 explains exactly why.

Toog says his redirect only works on someone that performed a killing action that night. He said he was informed it worked.

If Feu bus-drove or redirected, he did NOT perform a killing action.

[Venmar]

I think i'm missing a Cog here, who did Toog target? Feu?

[borkjerfkin]

Yes.

[Venmar]

So Toog redirected Feu to ETL, and since he succeeded, he transferred Feu's kill into ETL. This means that Feu had to be targeting a single player with a kill, but his kill got switched to ETL by Toog.

But SnowStorm claims he got a tracker result from Peregrine, that says Feu instead targeted me AND ETL, which alone implies he wasn't making a kill. UNLESS, Feu used a vig JOAT shot, AND his NK at the same time. I don't even think that's possible though or balanced.

Therefore, you think either Toog lied, or SnowStorm faked his result?

[borkjerfkin]

That's what I'm saying, yeah.

[borkjerfkin]

I mean 6002 is checking w/ Desp to make sure that he wouldn't process Toog's redirect in a weird way

But I would never even think to resolve a redirect like that

[Venmar]

Considering the fact ETL did die, isn't Toog's story more confirmable?

[Venmar]

Whatever, we got Day 4 all over again, clashing claims that indicate one of two people are lying and therefore scum. Yay.

[borkjerfkin]

Well the bus-driver theory explains the ETL visit.

[Rogue]

i dont get how hard press it was to get a fucking lynch

We were trying to get objs for certain hoods. It wasn't that it was hard. It was the timing of certain players were excuted badly .

I'm such a good hydra partner

Also can someone explain to me in 5 words or less why Venmar is still standing?

VOTE: Venmar

His vote on our hood today is to try to salvage the last scumteam's chances since he knows that they're already in a pickle and if we get a killstop it's going to make their lives even harder. Same with not letting my hood have the hammer.

[Venmar]

Then again, SnowStorm claiming the tracker result AFTER Toog claiming seems stupid to do as scum, since Toogs claim alone would have been enough to lynch Feu, and faking his own result would do nothing but complicate things for him?

WTF Toog?!

I got a result from someone else's role last night:

Feu visited ETL and Venmar.

The ETL part makes sense given his and Toog's claim, but he said nothing about targeting Venmar, and Venny's still alive... Feu?

This post seems a bit more town-motivated I think to make than Scum motivated.

...

Which now implies Toog is scum.

Idk?

PEDit: Oh yay..

[SnowStorm]

Whatever, we got Day 4 all over again, clashing claims that indicate one of two people are lying and therefore scum. Yay.

Nope. Only thing we have is people making assumptions.

I don't think we should discard the possibility of Feu being the last of his scum team.

[borkjerfkin]

@Rogue: I think we have confirmed scum in Toog/Snowstorm and that may be more important than worrying about Venmar today.

p-edit: really.

[Salamence20]

Venmar lynch gogo

[Venmar]

VOTE: Venmar

His vote on our hood today is to try to salvage the last scumteam's chances since he knows that they're already in a pickle and if we get a killstop it's going to make their lives even harder. Same with not letting my hood have the hammer.

Or I was voting BBMolla, my largest scumread?

[Rogue]

@Rogue: I think we have confirmed scum in Toog/Snowstorm and that may be more important than worrying about Venmar today.

p-edit: really.

We have confirmed scum in Venmar too

Confirmed scum in a group of 1

Confirmed scum in a group of 2


hmmm

[Venmar]

Guys, a multiball game of this size cannot be 2v2vTown, it's more likely 3v3vTown

There's at least 3 scum left imo, 2 red 1 blue.

[SnowStorm]

What about traitors?