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[popsofctown]

To be quite honest, since I made legend at hearthstone I for some reason don't care if I win this game.

[SleepyKrew]

^scumclaim

[singersigner]

Meoooow.

I like wine.

And voting.

vote: popsofclown

[farside22]

IAI's posting is starting to sound delirious, but not in a good way.

Vote: IAmInnocent

To be quite honest, since I made legend at hearthstone I for some reason don't care if I win this game.

Anyone thinking this is town needs to explain why in there next freeking post.

[farside22]

mod, replace me out of this game

I'm sorry, but there is just no way I can contribute to this game. I simply can't get into to it. Bye guys.

By the way cd replaced not due to be busy.

[SleepyKrew]

Oh wow how did I miss that. He "couldn't get into it"? Bull. Fucking. Shit.

[SleepyKrew]

In other news, singer is in my top 2 favorite users with listmod access that are in this game.

[singersigner]

I've worked hard to become so

[PokerFace]

Day 2 Vote Count

I Am Innocent (4) - RedCoyote, Cyberbob, Dessew, popsofctown
popsofctown (4) - farside22, SleepyKrew, I Am Innocent, singersinger
singersigner (1) - Beck

Not voting (1) - Goofyd00d

Searching for replacement for Beck

With 10 alive its 6 to lynch

Day 2 Deadline Countdown

-2 days added to allow for a replacement to catch up

(expired on 2014-08-25 18:30:00)

I believe there's an older vote count where I said (2) instead of (3) votes for pops, will find and rectify shortly -

DONE

[PokerFace]

@players I think there may have been an issue with my outbox several days ago that should now be fixed
I have sent 2 prods to cyberbob and redcoyote. The first prod to each user is still in my outbox. The second prod to each is not.
When a user goes to their inbox all messages should be out of the senders outbox. How the second went gone and first did not, puzzles me
Goofy's prod is out of my outbox so things should be fixed. Cyber and Red can you re-check your inboxes for me and let me know if you both received 2 prods?

I may consider a rule change from "2 prods and 3rd time you out" to "3 prods and 4th time you out" should there indeed be proof my outbox fails

[farside22]

I've had that happen a few times, never understood it either.

[Dessew]

I'm not sure why this doubt arose dess.
You originally voted iai for start of day 2 comment and following rc.
Was there a doubt about rc I missed?
Also whom else are you scum reading and why?

I also missed that doubt... What on earth are you talking about?
No one. I'm reading the pops case now, it's quite slow. You might think that the reasons why you scumread pops are obvious, but they aren't. For instance:

IAI's posting is starting to sound delirious, but not in a good way.

Vote: IAmInnocent

To be quite honest, since I made legend at hearthstone I for some reason don't care if I win this game.

Anyone thinking this is town needs to explain why in there next freeking post.

I've read this like five times and not just one after another, but leaving a few minutes between some "sessions" and I still can't see your point.

[SleepyKrew]

farside isn't the only person that's made a pops case(s)

[Dessew]

SK: yes, I know, I'm not ISO'ing, so you didn't post in vain.
Is there anything new to the case after page 52, though? I reiterate the point: arguments polarize and create confbias. If you ask someone to defend a stance they get more fond of it. Jeez, I've read about it on this site like three times and I hardly touch old stuff.

[Dessew]

2. Polarization: Turns out if you argue a position, even if you don't agree with the position you'll grow to favor it. So asking people to make a case against X and them actually doing it makes them more likely to follow through with their vote.

It's the last time I saw it, I guess. (And it's from a GD thread, you can surely find a handful of MD threads with this piece of information.)

[Cyberbob]

@players I think there may have been an issue with my outbox several days ago that should now be fixed
I have sent 2 prods to cyberbob and redcoyote. The first prod to each user is still in my outbox. The second prod to each is not.
When a user goes to their inbox all messages should be out of the senders outbox. How the second went gone and first did not, puzzles me
Goofy's prod is out of my outbox so things should be fixed. Cyber and Red can you re-check your inboxes for me and let me know if you both received 2 prods?

I may consider a rule change from "2 prods and 3rd time you out" to "3 prods and 4th time you out" should there indeed be proof my outbox fails

I received both prods

As far as game shit goes I just got home, am drunk, is nearly 5am. Will deal with stuff tomorrow once I recover

[farside22]

I'm not sure why this doubt arose dess.
You originally voted iai for start of day 2 comment and following rc.
Was there a doubt about rc I missed?
Also whom else are you scum reading and why?

I also missed that doubt... What on earth are you talking about?
No one. I'm reading the pops case now, it's quite slow. You might think that the reasons why you scumread pops are obvious, but they aren't. For instance:

IAI's posting is starting to sound delirious, but not in a good way.

Vote: IAmInnocent

To be quite honest, since I made legend at hearthstone I for some reason don't care if I win this game.

Anyone thinking this is town needs to explain why in there next freeking post.

I've read this like five times and not just one after another, but leaving a few minutes between some "sessions" and I still can't see your point.

Why do you think it's a town post, either one, considering pops freeking stance on iai earlier

[Dessew]

I'm not calling it town, nevertheless, I don't see why it's scummy. (A post not being explicitely town is nothing to work with. If you think it is, I'll post tomorrow an article about shepards, try to have a read on me from that.) You're supposed to try to get a wagon moving, how about posting your point instead of Yoda-like questions?
I'm halfway through. SK brought up one and a half good points about pops calling/not calling Drew scum. The half point is about pops's posts about SK at the beginning of this day, it might lead to somewhere, but tbh I doubt. Suprisingly enough, IAI provided another interesting point about pops's not voting. It feels like testing waters a bit.

[SleepyKrew]

Is there anything new to the case after page 52, though?

In 1330 (which is on page 54) I show that calling Drew "the lesser of two evils" is disingenuous because he straight up called Drew scummy near the end of D1. I might have said that before, but I think 1330 is when I went and got the actual quote.

[Dessew]

Is there anything new to the case after page 52, though?

In 1330 (which is on page 54) I show that calling Drew "the lesser of two evils" is disingenuous because he straight up called Drew scummy near the end of D1. I might have said that before, but I think 1330 is when I went and got the actual quote.

Yes, that's what I meant by good point. I'm phoneposting, so that's why the lack of quotes now.

[SleepyKrew]

Is there anything new to the case after page 52, though?

In 1330 (which is on page 54) I show that calling Drew "the lesser of two evils" is disingenuous because he straight up called Drew scummy near the end of D1. I might have said that before, but I think 1330 is when I went and got the actual quote.

Yes, that's what I meant by good point. I'm phoneposting, so that's why the lack of quotes now.

Your post ninjad mine, I went ahead and posted it for everyone else.

[RedCoyote]

To be quite honest, since I made legend at hearthstone I for some reason don't care if I win this game.

I don't know what this means, but can we lynch them both?

Is anyone really defending either of these guys at this point? farside, you threw some love IAI's way; why? You said that he wouldn't try to get me lynched as scum, but I ask you why would he do it as town? IAI isn't dumb. He's also not the type to let pride get in his way, I think (see: his backing off from wanting to lynch me today).

singer, is something keeping you away from the IAI wagon? I mean, pops and IAI are cross-voting, so that's a wash. I think Bob and SK cancel each other out. I'm the most townie player in the game though, of course (I always say this kind of tongue-in-cheek, but it's half serious this game given my claim). farside is a big unknown. Remember that her and pops were best buddies during D1 when pops and her were working to undermine the reinoe wagon (this was a good thing), but then they worked together to undermine the CD wagon (this is an unknown, well, I mean I guess you know if it's good or not, lol). Granted, farside has not been friendly with pops this game as though he's a townread, but she suspects him all the while working with him to get an agenda done. I'm not necessarily saying they're both scum, but their motives are suspect.

Anyway, again, I'm not really unsatisfied with the way these wagons are competing against each other (I think that's very healthy and it lends itself to questioning players' motives tomorrow, especially the hammerer), but I think IAI is the clearly superior wagon.

Where's Goofy been? I'm concerned about him. He was so very townie looking yesterday, but he has been blah this whole day. In a way that makes me think he's still town (like me, he doesn't really care which wagon wins), but I could just be reading that into him.

[SleepyKrew]

949, 951, and 1212
Putting those there for anyone interested^
shit I'm having flashbacks to reinoe suppress it SUPPRESS IT
Okay I suppressed it
In addition to the 4 posts I just linked, there's also the fact that pops dropped his case on me, and unvoted me, but is still calling me scum for vague reasons. I'm going to fact-check that last sentence.
Okay so pops didn't actually vote me today, but it definitely looked like he was intending to. His vague reason for still suspecting me is that me vs. reinoe didn't feel town v town. He's not pursuing his suspicion of me though.

PEDIT: Has Goofy expressed an opinion on either wagon? I thought he said he'd get to that soon.

[farside22]

Rc: my scum read on pops is strong and unlike bob that freeking comment from pops and then vote is scum bussing.

Will quote things later for those not reading the game.

[farside22]

I see the parallel, Skrew.

I don't care what RC's excuse is because scumRC would always have an excuse. It doesn't seem to matter what the excuse is if townBG RC can't get himself dead. I guess I shouldn't say I don't care, if RC's excuse was really terrible then it would implicate him further.

Vote: IAI

I'm going to sheep Cyberbob a little bit here. I like his work.

You would be one of my other suspicions, IAI, but that vacay post placated me to a good extent.

unvote

Skrew is one of my other suspects. As I expressed D1, I feel like the Skrew vs. reinoe drivel that lasted all D1 didn't seem like town vs. town, and Skrew seems excessively defensive all game.

Goofydood and Beck are not my favorite slots either

IAI's not a bad lynch. I liked his recent posting but his day one posting was pretty lackluster.

It's funny that people thought I was scum day 1 for tunneling Beck's slot too hard, and day 2 I'm getting criticized for attacking too weakly. :eyeroll:

I'm more maneuvering from my more favored lynches to a viable one. Day 1 I felt like I didn't get as good a compromise as I would have liked, IAI would be a pretty good step up from Drew.
I do agree with some of what you're saying about IAI. It weighs heavily against just one of his posts pinging off my gut well.

I don't know singer very well but I like her play so far.

IAI's posting is starting to sound delirious, but not in a good way.

Vote: IAmInnocent

Here I got pissed and quoted the multitude of today's post from pops and his comments about iai.

Sheep vote
Unvote even though he didn't give two shits or say anything about issues on iai.
Likes wagon iai, no reason why
Compromise fucking lynch ehile pushing jack fucking shit today
Vote iai for weak reason.