Mafia 58: Ready Salted - Game over!

[ChannelDelibird]

Prodded KaleiDoscope and Jalyn. Replacing blahgo.

[Battle Mage]

BLAHGO? U mean the same Blahgo who hasnt posted in over a month?

[ChannelDelibird]

BLAHGO? U mean the same Blahgo who hasnt posted in over a month?

I'm sorry, what was that? It sounded like "Please modkill me", but I'll pretend I didn't hear it.

[Battle Mage]

lol i was just shocked that he was still on the player list. i dont think ive EVER seen him on site...
why would you wanna modkill me for that?

BLAHGO? U mean the same Blahgo who hasnt posted in over a month?

I'm sorry, what was that? It sounded like "Please modkill me", but I'll pretend I didn't hear it.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Because you're scum, obviously. Still in for a BM and/or Nv9 lynch

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Good news! Apparently I'm replacing blahgo.

I will return with kernels of wisdom/speedlynches... well, at some point.

[ChannelDelibird]

The Central Scrutinizer does indeed replace blahgo.

[Battle Mage]

awesome! which TCS do we have today?

[Amb]

which TCS? Is there more than one?

[Rand Althor]

More than one personality I speculate.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

which TCS? Is there more than one?

I made a joke in another game about there being two TCS's, the helpful one and the speedlynching one. Really they're pretty much the same.

[theopor_COD]

Hmm welcome TCS. My suspicion of OTU/Blagho doesn't die down with your replacement but hello all the same.

For now I'm going to return to one of my other suspects, especially being as she'd say she'd post and has continually decided to lurk.

vote jalyn

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Ok, I admit that I have yet to read the entirety of this thread. I read through about 35 pages, read the last three or four pages, reviewed the votecounts, and read posts in isolation for six of the remaining players. I will finish at some point when I've got the stomach for it. Here's the Cliffs version of my mental notes.

1. I think there is one scum group.
2. I think this scumgroup consists (at least) of: Theopor_COD, Twito, scotmany12, and ~N9V~.
3. If they are not all scum, at least two of them are.

Why? Scotmany's posts reek of scum. Frankly I'm shocked he hasn't been lynched yet. Twito's wild accusations are pure Twito, but not one has been spot on. Theopor_COD has been scummy all game. Now it looks like he's trying to salvage by making a bid for lead scumhunter. ~N9v~ is lurkerscum, has posted nothing useful. He seems to always be holding back his vote only to either cast it in useless places.

Moreover, two out of the four of them are consistently in some combination on the largest wagon. Also, Twito and Theopor inexpicably and at approximately the same time jumped off of the scotmany12 bandwagon, causing it to completely fall apart. Later wagons on Theopor showed that, surprise, no one was on them for very long... except perhaps Twito, which is precisely what I would expect from Twitoscum.

As I said, this is subject to change as I finish and reread, but my initial impressions are that this scum group is rock solid.

At the least, there appears to be sufficient support for us to spend today lynching this scum:

unvote, vote: scotmany12

[theopor_COD]

Nice try scum. Maybe you missed the bit where Rand revealed his innocent.

Plus I don't even recall a Scotmany wagon of such. Point it out.

What do you make of OTU/Blagho's behaviour.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Ok, great, so you're either both scum as well, or two of the other three are scum. I don't claim to be perfect, only fairly accurate.

What do I make of my previous incarnations' play? Blahgo is an idiot and OTU played almost exactly how I would have, albiet with less posting. I do not yet understand the case on OTU, so if you want to outline it, do so.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Also, I apologize for the mixup. It was a wagon on you, Theopor, that both Twito and Scotmany left. Sorry for being a fuckup.

[theopor_COD]

No problems.

My main beef with OTU was the hammer - without waiting for a claim.
Then his 9th vote on me a quick time after yeh I was playing like a complete clown then but all the same.
After that he did little but lurk, Blagho was totally useless.

I've looked at the Livingod scum wagon and still don't seem to be any closer to finding the big scum cuplrits. I do however agree that Twito if anyone was bussing could have been doing so, mind the way he slowed my wagon gives me a better feeling about him - although if was scum he may have left the wagon to appear in a better shade of light when my identity was revealed.

What I will say is TCS your introduction has brought an influx of posts so that's great stuff.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

TBH, the hammer on LivingGod was a move after my own heart. I would have laid it without hesitation, without waiting for a claim. Day 1 claims are next to useless anyway, IMO.

[scotmany12]

Ok, I just looked over the livingod wagon right now. Out of the people on that wagon, the only one I can totally rule out is Kelly Chen. I think she has been pretty pro town the whole game. Obviously, I believe Amb to be the scummiest out of all of them. I don't really see scum hammering so I'm going to clear OTU for now. It is a possibility that he hammered, and the way he did it was not so good, but I don't see scum hammering their godfather this early in the game. Out of the other members on the wagon, I see DoS as the second scummiest. Twito I'm not quite sure on due to his absence, though I still have a few suspicions on him. Gut mostly.

I'm not really quite sure what to think of the others off the wagon. Theo, you said me holding off voting for livingod was scummy, when we have a good 7 other people who did not vote for livingod. I'm going to clear you and RA for now, while phita turned up town. That leaves boulder, BM, and chibo. Chibo wasn't really helping out the town, but I think jayln has been helpful up till now. I'll have to look her over. Haven't really been following boulder that much. That leaves shamrock and BM. Its interesting that BM voted for the same person that livingod voted for, a little bit to think about. And then there is Panzer, who I believed was acting quite scummy throughout the game, but recently my opinion is changing about him.

Overall, I don't see all of the scum on the livingod bandwagon. I personally think it was split. I'm going to assume that there is four scum left for this occasion, so there are 2 off of the bandwagon, and 2 on. I'm going to rule out OTU just cause he hammered, and I don't see scum hammering in this situation.

So out of this(which is all subject to change) the people I see most likely to be scum is Amb and DoS. Those were the ones on the bandwagon. The two off, however, is tricky. Its between Chibo, Panzer, and BM. Right now I'll put BM and Panzer as the other two.

[theopor_COD]

Out of the people on that wagon, the only one I can

totally rule out

is Kelly Chen. I think she has been pretty pro town the whole game.

Totally rule out seems a little strong. I think she has some made some decent points but I'm not viewing her as stonewall townie.
1 - I'd have expected her to be actively pursuing scum more than she is.
2 - She's probably the most experienced player so the fact she hasn't been targeted at night, still leaves a question mark over her. She is currently voting Jalyn so that is a plus point for her.

I think jayln has been helpful up till now.

Ok point out where pls.

Its between Chibo, Panzer, and BM. Right now I'll put BM and Panzer as the other two.

Interesting so your main suspects are Panzer, BM, DoS and Amb?

[scotmany12]

This was basically all from memory Theo, so I can be completely wrong about jayln. This is basically all from just looking over the livingod wagon. I didn't really look back at the game, I was just working things out in my head. So yeah, from that, Amb, Dos, BM, and Panzer are my scum, with Jayln lurking around the outside.

[Amb]

Funny that a replacement walks in, reads the thread, and sees exactly what I have been pushing.

[Battle Mage]

well i gotta say, i COMPLETELY disagree with TCS's analysis. you managed to pick out 3 of the 4 players who have acted the most protown imho. can we have a VC?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Funny that a replacement walks in, reads the thread, and sees exactly what I have been pushing.

Because I have reason to believe that you are protown, and because I think you are right.

[Amb]

Mod

can we have that votecount?