NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

[T S O]

Hey, Alina, can you show me where reinoe's been scumhunting?

Hey TSO, can you show me where TSO's been scumhunting? Thanks.

Sure.

[T S O]

Well, Majiffy, I'm arguing that after one going wrong, scum-him wouldn't be confident enough to do another, and your counter-argument appears to be "No." I don't feel the need to respond to "No."

[reinoe]

Finally home. Post 300 is complete shit but this part...

On the other hand, it feels like reinoe is purposely trying to obfuscate his motivations and everything,

needs explaining. How am I obfuscating my motivations? What motivations am I obfuscating?

[Majiffy]

Well, Majiffy, I'm arguing that after one going wrong, scum-him wouldn't be confident enough to do another, and your counter-argument appears to be "No." I don't feel the need to respond to "No."

Why wouldn't scum-him be confident enough to do another, considering he already pulled the first, knowing it would be fruitless at worst and get him townread at best?

Your argument doesn't follow.

Hence why my counter-argument was "No." I didn't feel an elaboration was necessary, considering your flawed premise was self-evident.

[Majiffy]

Let me run you down the two scenarios;

1) Town Tree
Gambits IC.
Garners no reactions, until a reasonless vote.
OMGUSes.
Gambit revealed as fake.
Decides to gambit again, despite first yielding admittedly no useful responses.

Motivation for second gambit: ???


2) Scum Tree
Gambits IC
Regardless of actual reactions, can either;
a) Use the gambit in and of itself to push self-as-town
b) Use any reactions to garner falsified reads that he can use as a leg to stand on for "scumhunting"
Garners 1 vote and no other negative reactions.
OMGUSes
Gambit revealed as false
Gambits again, because there wasn't major blowback.

Motivation: Risk-Benefit is in his favor for the second gambit as scum.

[Majiffy]

The fact that I am not in a newbie queue and have to walk you fucktards {TSO, Psyche} through this really obvious train of thought is embarrassing to you both as players.

[reinoe]

The fact that I am not in a newbie queue and have to walk you fucktards {TSO, Psyche} through this really obvious train of thought is embarrassing to you both as players.

Is it possible they're both scum? I'm not ruling anything out.

[Majiffy]

I could see Psyche. I think TSO is just an idiot.

[Majiffy]

Psyche came in with his chainsaw roaring, though.

[T S O]

"Motivation: Risk-Benefit is in his favor for the second gambit as scum."

And this is where your explanation falls to pieces. What possible benefit could this have for him?

[notscience]

Majiffy who's blood is on the menu today

[T S O]

And if you say "earn him towncred" my pre-emptive answer is "Don't be a moron."

[Majiffy]

"Motivation: Risk-Benefit is in his favor for the second gambit as scum."

And this is where your explanation falls to pieces. What possible benefit could this have for him?

Regardless of actual reactions, can either;
a) Use the gambit in and of itself to push self-as-town
b) Use any reactions to garner falsified reads that he can use as a leg to stand on for "scumhunting"

And if you say "earn him towncred" my pre-emptive answer is "Don't be a moron."

Majiffy who's blood is on the menu today

Tree.

[notscience]

Syrup is kinda meh solo.

Can I bring pancakes?

[Majiffy]

Sure.

[Majiffy]

But it's that apple-flavored Aunt Jemima shit so I'm just gonna do shots of it.

[notscience]

You'll end up more sticky than the entertainment at a bachelor party.

[Majiffy]

*Butterworths, not Jemima.

[Psyche]

vote majiffy

are reaction tests scum?

For a Yale kid, you're a fucking moron.

i go to princeton

you keep avoiding questions

[Majiffy]

You'll end up more sticky than the entertainment at a bachelor party.

Bitch I

am

the entertainment at a bachelor party.

Wait...

[Majiffy]

vote majiffy

are reaction tests scum?

For a Yale kid, you're a fucking moron.

i go to princeton

you keep avoiding questions

I'm not avoiding shit. Why don't you read my posts you fuckwit.

[T S O]

I'm not convinced at all.

[Psyche]

Let me run you down the two scenarios;

1) Town Tree
Gambits IC.
Garners no reactions, until a reasonless vote.
OMGUSes.
Gambit revealed as fake.
Decides to gambit again, despite first yielding admittedly no useful responses.

Motivation for second gambit: ???


2) Scum Tree
Gambits IC
Regardless of actual reactions, can either;
a) Use the gambit in and of itself to push self-as-town
b) Use any reactions to garner falsified reads that he can use as a leg to stand on for "scumhunting"
Garners 1 vote and no other negative reactions.
OMGUSes
Gambit revealed as false
Gambits again, because there wasn't major blowback.

Motivation: Risk-Benefit is in his favor for the second gambit as scum.

what proportion of scummers do you suppose think through their reaction tests to the degree you're supposing that tree has?

[T S O]

It's just so incredibly tenuous to call him scum for that because I don't really think either of your motives work in context.

[Majiffy]

what proportion of scummers do you suppose think through their reaction tests to the degree you're supposing that tree has?

A good percentage. But your question implies a town mindset, not a scum one.

This isn't a town reaction test. This is a scum gambit designed to

look

like a reaction test.