NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)


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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:40 pm

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In post 398, T S O wrote:It's just so incredibly tenuous to call him scum for that because I don't really think either of your motives work in context.

I'm not calling him scum for it. I'm arguing against your townread over it.

I'm calling him scum because his initial gambit didn't look town and his reaction to being voted was scummy as fuck.
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In post 396, T S O wrote:I'm not convinced at all.

Also you're not at all entitled to your opinion. :wink:
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:41 pm

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what makes it look like a scum gambit
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:43 pm

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In post 402, Psyche wrote:what makes it look like a scum gambit

I am now ignoring you until you read my posts.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:43 pm

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In post 400, Majiffy wrote:
In post 398, T S O wrote:It's just so incredibly tenuous to call him scum for that because I don't really think either of your motives work in context.

I'm not calling him scum for it. I'm arguing against your townread over it.


but you voted him over it
and said i seemed to be chainsawing
so you have to understand why reading this is pretty surprising
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:44 pm

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In post 404, Majiffy wrote:
In post 402, Psyche wrote:what makes it look like a scum gambit

I am now ignoring you until you read my posts.


you're not thinking things through
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:46 pm

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Does anyone else hear that annoying buzzing?
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:47 pm

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Is this entire game just going to be pairs of people going at it?

I don't really have a read on Tree right now, but didn't like the double fakeclaim. However, I also don't think that should be the
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thing people are focusing on to decide if he's scum or not. TSO seems to be making a straw man argument, which to me is making him look scummier.

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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:48 pm

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your tenuous theoretical cost-benefit analysis doesn't really demonstrate scumminess at all
it's a possible thinking process that I personally find dubious that tree would go through,
but there's no evidence around to show that this thinking process was undertaken at all
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:49 pm

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Psyche, you literally don't make sense ever.

I'd be down with a tree lynch, but I'm not feeling good about Oka. The aggressiveness rubs me wrong, and it sort of feels like he's trying way to hard to make it look like he's scumhunting.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:50 pm

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I already answered your question

see:

"Scumhunting sucks"
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:50 pm

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I'm sitting on the sidelines because flowchart told me to follow majiffy
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:51 pm

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In post 408, shaddowez wrote:TSO seems to be making a straw man argument, which to me is making him look scummier.


Go on.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:52 pm

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In post 400, Majiffy wrote:
In post 398, T S O wrote:It's just so incredibly tenuous to call him scum for that because I don't really think either of your motives work in context.

I'm not calling him scum for it. I'm arguing against your townread over it.


...you win this time.
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:53 pm

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In post 127, texcat wrote:
In post 50, gameplay506 wrote:Actually I am genius and I think I know the setup. Just wonderin whether to tell it or not.

Will knowing more about the setup help us find scum? I thought the object of this was to find (and kill) the scum.

In post 108, Elyse wrote:
How do you expect us to get out of RVS if we just keeping tooling around?

I, too, agree with this, but wonder why you are so focused on RoyalApe. A lot of people made early, random votes. And yet you didn't find anything to question in their votes? You only found RoyalApe worthy of questioning?


I completely forgot this person was in the game.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:54 pm

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In post 410, Aeronaut wrote:Psyche, you literally don't make sense ever.


that's also false
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:56 pm

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In post 413, T S O wrote:
In post 408, shaddowez wrote:TSO seems to be making a straw man argument, which to me is making him look scummier.


Go on.


Basically the post you just quoted from Majiffy. He wasn't using Tree's gambit as his basis for calling him scum, but that's all you kept attacking him for. There was more to it, but for anybody that doesn't feel like reading through the redundant back and forth of "He's town for it" "No, he's scum for it", you were trying to make a case for Majiffy to look bad for voting Tree based on just the one factor.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:56 pm

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That should read *solely as his basis*
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:58 pm

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I ...didn't attack Majiffy. Once. Not even when he called me a fucking moron and I had justification to.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:59 pm

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majiffy throws around hyperbolic insults like ns throws around townreads
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:00 pm

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its his way of pressuring people to agree with him
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:02 pm

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Possible bad word choice on my end - I didn't mean personal attacks, I meant your arguments against him.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:06 pm

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I'm half reading this game. Lots of little things and some I felt good about and others I wonder about.
I'm a bit loopy tired but I like pysche a bit more and tso.
I think I need to reread a few people like tree, oka, elyse and maybe renioe to make sure I'm not crazy.

Also question to either aero or renioe (since you two I remember from the last normal) does anything feel off about Alina to you?
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:08 pm

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