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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:14 pm

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In post 1649, Squirrel Girl wrote:@Sleepy - why is Farside town? I think that is probably wrong.

I've felt pretty synched with her about pops. However, if one of IAI/farside flips scum, then the other probably is too (I never said that before because I only just realized it).
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:15 pm

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"probably" is probably too strong a word.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:21 pm

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"Potentially" then? Maybe 'possibly' that sounds a bit more like a conclusion than potentially but without the stronger vibe of probably which sounds like a >50% sorta comment.

I do still stand by my previously stated commentary about your reads :lol:

I still feel like I'm floundering a bit without enough reactions to ping from other people. Singer's drunk antics were not as rewarding as the beginning of this sentence should seem to imply them to be. Cyberbob is basically checked out for...some reason. Goofy about the same. I don't think I've even seen Red in thread yet. Both IAI and Pops have been here, but have just been doing generic defensive flail - so not much to vibe with there. :(
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:22 pm

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I almost find myself wondering if town is just debating between lynching the two weakest looking players.
It's about what the cases feel about - they're practically mirror images.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:28 pm

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In post 1652, Squirrel Girl wrote:I do still stand by my previously stated commentary about your reads

I cannot skim-find this >.<
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:33 pm

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It was a bad joke - basically I town read you but find your logic not sheepable.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:39 pm

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I'm totally missing the joke. Can you quote this previously stated commentary for me?
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:29 pm

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The two that say town he was town.
Not sure why you were confused or saying I mislead anything there squirel.

So he hammered one game and doesn't hammer here therefore he's town?
Please explain that logic compared to where he was town being voted and telling people his reads before he was lynched and not doing it here.
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:36 pm

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Also one of the scum link that broke he was lynched in and did not self vote there squirel

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3521605




Why didn't you do your own meta research? If the behavior is scummy and I show a more active town pops why is he town based on not hammering squirel?
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:44 pm

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In post 1625, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 1610, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 1606, Squirrel Girl wrote:Wasn't the Vig claim made *after* the lynch had happened?

Correct.
I'll do your other stuff later or maybe someone will hammer please

Are you okay with IAI calling people scummy for lynching a "confirmable" role - when they didn't know that?
I'm asking this because a big part of your case on Pops seems to be about lies - so I'm curious of your attitude towards this lie.

Not a fan of Cyberbob's case.
IAI's vote on Pops looks *way* more survival minded than the Pops vote on IAI.

@Farside - is town Pops a more active scumhunter than this Pops?

Also want to point out pops knows he'd soon be dead here and has yet to post his scum reads with reasons and only doing defense.
Show me meta of town pops doing that squirel.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:15 am

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Squirrel girl, what do u think of a player who is asked to produce his or her reads on all players but refuses to do so? Esp when they are tunneling one player, and have been on both confirmed town wagons?

Also please define weakest looking players, cause I do take offense to that.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:40 am

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(he's asking you what you think of me by the way, it's very subtle)
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:47 am

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Hi scum!
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:48 am

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Lurk much?
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:59 am

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I'd be willing to self vote if the group agreed to lynch cyberbob D3...serious offer at this point.
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:07 am

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In post 1663, I Am Innocent wrote:Lurk much?

More like work much!
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:27 am

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In post 1653, Squirrel Girl wrote:I almost find myself wondering if town is just debating between lynching the two weakest looking players.
It's about what the cases feel about - they're practically mirror images.

You know what helps figure that out? Flips!
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:35 am

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In post 1652, Squirrel Girl wrote:"Potentially" then? Maybe 'possibly' that sounds a bit more like a conclusion than potentially but without the stronger vibe of probably which sounds like a >50% sorta comment.

I do still stand by my previously stated commentary about your reads :lol:

I still feel like I'm floundering a bit without enough reactions to ping from other people. Singer's drunk antics were not as rewarding as the beginning of this sentence should seem to imply them to be. Cyberbob is basically checked out for...some reason. Goofy about the same. I don't think I've even seen Red in thread yet. Both IAI and Pops have been here, but have just been doing generic defensive flail - so not much to vibe with there. :(

This is...a whole lot of nothing.

What's the point in replacing in and then giving a running commentary of who isn't living up to your standards. You're pretty much regurgitating my frustrations from the beginning of the game but focusing on who isn't helping you instead of who is. Not to mention the fact that your target scum right now is because, as far as I can tell...she doesn't make sense? You're not the only one having a hard time understanding her but what about it makes her scum? That she should know better because of meta?
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:15 am

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In post 1660, I Am Innocent wrote:Squirrel girl, what do u think of a player who is asked to produce his or her reads on all players but refuses to do so? Esp when they are tunneling one player, and have been on both confirmed town wagons?

In post 1661, Cyberbob wrote:(he's asking you what you think of me by the way, it's very subtle)

I think it applies to me too, actually.
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:48 am

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In post 1657, farside22 wrote:The two that say town he was town.
Not sure why you were confused or saying I mislead anything there squirel.

Well, you provided five links, four of them you labeled as him town, one you labeled as him scum - the reality was three were scum and two were town.

In post 1657, farside22 wrote:So he hammered one game and doesn't hammer here therefore he's town?
Please explain that logic compared to where he was town being voted and telling people his reads before he was lynched and not doing it here.

My point is that he isn't a cut and dry player. If he did the one thing as scum, and the one as town, and is doing neither here - then there is no functional conclusion to draw unless the argument is that he's 3rd party now.

In post 1658, farside22 wrote:Also one of the scum link that broke he was lynched in and did not self vote there squirel

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3521605

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Yeah...that would be a game he was nightkilled in.
This is *totally* selling me on your meta skills and your trustworthiness...no, wait, it's the other thing, the not trusting thing.

In post 1658, farside22 wrote:Why didn't you do your own meta research? If the behavior is scummy and I show a more active town pops why is he town based on not hammering squirel?

Of the games linked, his most active and aggressive one he was scum in.

I'd also be willing to take your 'last reads' challenge with him - I'll do it later today when I have time.

In post 1660, I Am Innocent wrote:Squirrel girl, what do u think of a player who is asked to produce his or her reads on all players but refuses to do so? Esp when they are tunneling one player, and have been on both confirmed town wagons?

I would find them anti-town.
I do not want to get into your weird world of town wagons debate because you make weird claims about what we can or cannot know.

In post 1660, I Am Innocent wrote:Also please define weakest looking players, cause I do take offense to that.

I am sorry you take offense - to that I would offer this thought; do you think you are often mislynched because other players don't agree/understand your playstyle?
We can change the comment to 'most mislynchable looking players' and my point and stance will hold fine.

In post 1667, singersigner wrote:What's the point in replacing in and then giving a running commentary of who isn't living up to your standards.

What's the point of replacing in and not pointing out the players that are not?

In post 1667, singersigner wrote:Not to mention the fact that your target scum right now is because, as far as I can tell...she doesn't make sense? You're not the only one having a hard time understanding her but what about it makes her scum? That she should know better because of meta?

I have expressed a few times how I think the manuvers Farside is doing are scum minded. She is being selective and narrow minded in her scope - also, not that when I first called her out on meta (something she admitted to not doing) her first reaction was a sudden lash out at me - when literally all I had done was ask if she'd done that research. Then she does the research and - shock of shocks - finds evidence to support her claim...until you actually start looking at the evidence and asking questions. Also, note her attitude towards IAI as compared to Pops and then compare the cases. Even Sleepy the tunnel king actually feels comfortable admitting that he scum reads both - as well he should since they've done the same stuff. But Farside acts surprised I even have that conclusion - while still sticking to her guns that it is Pops, not IAI, who looks scummy...for reasons...

That doesn't make you nervy about her?

It makes me nervy as hell - what have you figured out from trying to understand her?
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:52 am

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Actually, I think I sold myself, and we only have two days left and it doesn't look like my cuteness factor has kicked in yet for sheeping;

Unvote: Farside
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If this is a scum flip - I would highly suggest a Farside lynch next. Like, highly, highly.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:55 am

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In post 1657, farside22 wrote:So he hammered one game and doesn't hammer here therefore he's town?

In post 1658, farside22 wrote:Also one of the scum link that broke he was lynched in and did not self vote there squirel

I really want to also call out the word shift from hammer to vote - made between two posts that are back to back.
Also note, in the game he is discussing there was neither a self vote nor a hammer - because Pops was night killed.
This is just disingenuous.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:55 am

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I love this feeling.
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:56 am

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lalala intent blah blah blah
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:05 am

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It took me a second to translate - but that was an intent to hammer statement.

So;

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